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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's not just a change in demographics, it's a change in values
There is a major shift going on in this country, the hyper individualistic, nationalism that has defined this country for so long is declining. Even when comes reactions to terms like "capitalism" or "socialism" there is shift taking place. Yet, so many on the right even after the election are seemingly clueless about it. They have either said they just need to talk about conservatism differently. Oblivious to the fact it's not what they said, it's what they were selling. The second response has been outright insults, the accusation the reason why people vote for Obama is because he promised us "free stuff". Either way not a recipe for gaining voters.
American opinions about the role of the state also vary considerably across age groups. About half (47%) of those younger than 30 prioritize the freedom to pursue lifes goals without interference from the state and a similar percentage (46%) say it is more important for the state to ensure that nobody is in need; among older Americans, however, about six-in-ten consider being free a higher priority, with just about three-in-ten saying the state should play an active role so that nobody is in need. No such age difference is evident in the four Western European countries surveyed.
As in past surveys, older Americans remain far more inclined than younger ones to believe that their culture is better than others. Six-in-ten Americans ages 50 or older share this view, while 34% disagree; those younger than 30 hold the opposite view, with just 37% saying American culture is superior and 61% saying it is not. Opinions are more divided among those ages 30 to 49; 44% in this group see American culture as superior and 50% do not.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/11/17/the-american-western-european-values-gap/
http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)The web has helped, even Facebook, yes even that
zatoichiicc
(10 posts)The change in demographics will lead to a change in values.
David Brooks pointed out that Asian and Hispanics do not see government as the problem. They tend to see government as something that can and should be a force for good.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)DCKit
(18,541 posts)After all, we're Democratic.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)luv_mykatz
(441 posts)Because a change in values is long over-due...or at least recognition that most of us do not share the values of greed and hate.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Those fuckers seem to live forever. We're doing something wrong.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)People were asked whether it's more important "for everyone to be free to pursue their lifes goals without interference from the state" or "for the state to play an active role in society so as to guarantee that nobody is in need."
But that in itself raises a presumption that government activism has no other goal than to help the needy -- which is far from true.
Suppose the question was something like this: "Some people believe that government action is necessary to help everyone pursue their life goals. They believe that people should be able to obtain higher education without taking on a crushing burden of debt, feel assured of health care even if they change jobs or quit their job to start a small business, and make positive life-choices without being constrained by a fear of poverty in old age. Other people believe that the fear of failure is a powerful motivating force and that any kind of social safety net undercuts the willingness to take risks and weakens the drive for individual success. With which position do you agree more?"
I think you'd get very different results.