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MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
1. The problem with getting rid of the filibuster is that the dems will be in the minority again
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:17 AM
Nov 2012

at some point. It definitely needs reform, even if it it to make them stand there and talk. I'm not saying that the dems will be in the minority any time soon, but it will happen at some point. We had a good election this year thanks to the Todd Akin types.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
4. So what? The filibuster reform we are talking about returns it to what it was for 200 years.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

It worked just fine until the new rules were put into place that didn't require an actual filibuster. Yes if, and when, Republicans get control they'll get some of their crazy shit passed that wouldn't have cleared a filibuster. But they always manage to do that anyway. What legislation have Democrats successfully filibustered int the last 20 years? The Patriot Act? The Bush tax cuts? They held up some wacko Bush judges for a while but the 'gang of twelve' eventually got almost every one of them through.

Anything crazy they get passed when we don't have the current filibuster rules can be undone when we retake control if the filibuster is reformed.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. i think reid is serious. he went all out with statement about romney. he is getting old,
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:22 AM
Nov 2012

and the last campaign against him i think woke him a bit.

i think reid is serious. fingers crossed.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
3. It should not be "Get rid of...", it should be reform.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:36 AM
Nov 2012

Make them actually filibuster, as in, stand there in front of the country and babble incoherently for 6 days if they want to block something.

I believe that that was the original plan.

rock

(13,218 posts)
7. Exactly correct!
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

Doesn't anybody remember the movie with Jimmy Stewart, "Mr. Smith goes to Washington?" That's the way it's supposed to work! A real filibuster, not a virtual one. The same concept can be seen in Star Trek's episode 23: A Taste of Armageddon. War and filibusters should be difficult, not easy.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
5. Time to put up or shut up.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

If we are convinced of the superiority of our ideas, we should at least be given the opportunity to enact them when we have the majority. If they work, we will be rewarded. If they don't, well then, that's another story, but at least we will finally have a chance to find out.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
6. and if we ever end up in the minority that means our ideas are old and should not
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:42 AM
Nov 2012

carry too much weight and not stop the majority's agenda. I can live with that.
End the filibuster now.

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