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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,226 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:25 AM Jun 2023

DeSantis is about to discover that his base doesnt want to pick their own fruit and veggies,

do their own roofing, watch their own children or clean up construction sites and really want to be able to have a workforce they can tap into that will cost a fraction of what they'd have to pay Proud Boys.

His supporters don't give a shit about the legalities of workers, they care about profit and Desantis is threatening theirs.

It's about time that Immigrants garner a slice of America from the pie that so many have been hoarding. I think Desantis is pushing things that way through his own inability to see things through to logical conclusions.

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DeSantis is about to discover that his base doesnt want to pick their own fruit and veggies, (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2023 OP
GOP keeps rediscovering this RussBLib Jun 2023 #1
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #7
I keep telling all of you ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #14
I believe you RussBLib Jun 2023 #16
K&R for this post alone. It explains a lot. nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #17
I've pondered why anyone would vote for that clown EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #2
From your keyboard to god's ears. Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2023 #8
I Have My Doubts modrepub Jun 2023 #3
Nah, his base is just going to mindlessly blame Biden. flvegan Jun 2023 #4
x 2 sellitman Jun 2023 #11
DeSantis (R-FL) has proven to be a disaster for farmers in Florida LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #5
Brings some very good points up. Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2023 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #9
Well, I wish I could have seen the ire invoked by my post. Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2023 #10
All those retirees from cool states will have to start doing their own mowing, too obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #12
It's not easy mowing your own grass when the temp is 96. lpbk2713 Jun 2023 #13
Given that it's Florida ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #15

RussBLib

(9,003 posts)
1. GOP keeps rediscovering this
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jun 2023

over and over and over.

Our educational system really sucks, keeps turning out morons. You have to be pretty damn dense to go to Harvard and Yale and still turn out an ignorant conservative.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
14. I keep telling all of you
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 12:46 AM
Jun 2023

That Harvard and all the other Ivies have plenty of idiots in their student bodies. You don't have to be smart to get into any of them. The legacies are of course a huge source of the stupid in all of them, but the real stupid--that comes from the people who care more about getting a Yale degree for the sake of that degree, and not for the education offered at any of them--which is first rate, if if if if if if you are there to learn.

These right wing thugs aren't those people. A teacher here in the US actually told me that my son wasn't like the other kids in the gifted and talented program because he actually *was* gifted and talented; the rest of the kids were pleasers--the ones who did the busy work (90% of American schoolwork is idiotic busy work) at a competent level and sucked up to the teachers. Can you imagine a teacher admitting that's who got into the program--not the kids with actual potential or talent, but the most diligent of brown-nosers?

And that's not all they had in common. I saw firsthand who got in and why because I was there. They were overwhelmingly white--in a region where the majority was not. They were overwhelmingly middle-class, or higher, in a region where poverty was the norm. Single parents were rare--in a region where single parents were common. It didn't take the norm-conforming parents long to make those outside of those norms pariahs--because we were not "one of them." I was one of those pariahs. I was a working-class single parent, and that made me "beneath" them. And they let both my child and me know it, in oh-so-many ways.

So guess who gets into Harvard and Yale? Those very same kids with those very same parents. The parents have the connections and moolah to push for it. The kids manage to do the work at a consistent, competent level, they especially tick off the right "our kind" boxes, but they're not really smart. But the admissions system is built to accept exactly those kids. That's why the process is exactly the same for choosing who gets into a GT program as it is for who gets into an Ivy school.

The point is: being the "right kind" while being diligent is not the same thing as smart. Not understanding that difference is why the American education system cranks out so much stupid, despite having so much potential for better. The rewards aren't to the kids who have the real smarts--it's to who conforms, who does the busy work, and never forget the racism and classism built into the system in thousands of little ways that advantages mediocre white kids of means while squashing everyone else without mercy.

Until Americans face what the real problems are with their schools, don't be so surprised that so many prestigious educational institutes are full of low-IQ wankers like DeSantis, that nitwit who was press secretary for the Dotard, all of TFGs kids, that walking Ken doll husband of his incest chew toy, and all the others. And don't be surprised that many of them manage to eke out degrees from them, or even get into their graduate schools, either.

Because they don't have to learn anything while they're there--they only have to do enough work to get good enough grades to move onto the next part of their ambition-over-intellect plans. They don't have to know diddley squat to do that. Not if they're the "right kind."

EYESORE 9001

(25,908 posts)
2. I've pondered why anyone would vote for that clown
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 11:36 AM
Jun 2023

Now I have to wonder why any corporate entity would support him either. He’s digging a really deep hole for himself. Hope he drags MAGAts along with him.

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
3. I Have My Doubts
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 01:01 PM
Jun 2023

My brother has a pool and he hires someone to do maintenance in the spring. The guy he uses is an ardent MAGA; he despises illegals. Well spring comes early in the TFG's first year and he's over the moon happy illegals are high tailing it out of the country. Has to tell my brother that he's way behind schedule because he can't find anyone to work for him (seasonal min wage work). My brother tells me this, laughs and says the guy he uses probably can't put the two together; he can't find anyone to do menial work because those folks probably are foreigners who can't get green cards and don't want to get caught with fraudulent papers.

I liken this being like the type of folks who attempt to take large trees near their house without hiring a tree expert. If you watch someone in that line of work it's fascinating. They study the tree, scale it, take it down piece by piece and in the end you have removed an eye sore and a potential problem (at significant cost). Contrast that with the DIYer (hey there's nothing to it) who takes a chain saw, starts cutting the trunk near the ground then suddenly realizes they don't know what they're doing just as said tree falls on their car or house causing serious damage.

flvegan

(64,406 posts)
4. Nah, his base is just going to mindlessly blame Biden.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 01:04 PM
Jun 2023

Because he and Fox will tell them to, and they lack logic and the ability to reason.

Response to Tom Yossarian Joad (Original post)

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
12. All those retirees from cool states will have to start doing their own mowing, too
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 04:57 PM
Jun 2023

And tree trimming, etc. Who will be landscaping the common areas???

lpbk2713

(42,741 posts)
13. It's not easy mowing your own grass when the temp is 96.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 05:03 PM
Jun 2023


And the humidity is about the same. Some people are about to find out.

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