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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 03:27 PM Jun 2023

If Trump documents probe leads to charges, bulk of indictment would be in S. Florida

People familiar with the matter said special counsel Jack Smith wants to base the case where most of possible misconduct happened

Justice Department prosecutors are planning to bring a significant portion of any charges stemming from the possible mishandling of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the home of former president Donald Trump, at a nearby federal court in south Florida, according to people familiar with the matter.

The legal rationale for such a move is that the bulk of the conduct at issue in the investigation occurred in the southern district of Florida, in and around Trump’s Palm Beach residence and private club, even if much of the investigation — led by special counsel Jack Smith — has been handled by a grand jury in Washington. D.C., these people said.

That approach by prosecutors does not rule out the possibility of some charges, such as perjury or false statements, being filed in the nation’s capital in connection with out of grand jury appearances or law enforcement interviews that took place there, according to these people, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the internal discussions.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/miami-grand-jury-trump-classified-documents/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjI2MDg1Njg5IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4NjExMDQwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4NzQwNjM5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjg2MTEwNDAwLCJqdGkiOiJmOGYyMmRhZS0xZjYxLTRiMzktYjJjNy1hMWFkZmRjMGZiMTMiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbmF0aW9uYWwtc2VjdXJpdHkvMjAyMy8wNi8wNi9taWFtaS1ncmFuZC1qdXJ5LXRydW1wLWNsYXNzaWZpZWQtZG9jdW1lbnRzLyJ9.McQWojq9lcCYDmDWPJ0PjjiR_R47OAuir7PrpuAMHf4
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If Trump documents probe leads to charges, bulk of indictment would be in S. Florida (Original Post) kpete Jun 2023 OP
It appears to make sense to file in South Florida LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #1
It does. mcar Jun 2023 #17
Honestly this is very depressing if true. triron Jun 2023 #2
Why? Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #7
Not so much the judge, but the jury tinrobot Jun 2023 #13
South Florida is the more liberal area of the state. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #15
Pick me! mcar Jun 2023 #18
They may not have much choice Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #3
Joyce Vance said last night leftieNanner Jun 2023 #5
The problem is... regnaD kciN Jun 2023 #6
Palm Beach County is fairly liberal. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #8
Isn't the grand jury convened in Miami? Would think the trial could be there, too. Just asking. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #11
But the documents were stolen in DC. tinrobot Jun 2023 #14
If so the indictment would be in Washington, that is where is was when he stole the doc's, republianmushroom Jun 2023 #4
But PBeach was where he hid them and refused to give them back. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #12
like I posted the crime was committed in Washington D.C. not Florida. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #16
Won't DeSantis just pardon Trump? Dave says Jun 2023 #9
Federal charges. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #10

Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
7. Why?
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jun 2023

Unless he somehow gets Aileen Cannon, I doubt he's going to get any judge that's any more favorable to him here than anywhere else.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
13. Not so much the judge, but the jury
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jun 2023

Lots of sympathizers in that state. All it takes is one on the jury to torpedo the trial.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
15. South Florida is the more liberal area of the state.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:48 PM
Jun 2023

Yes, there's a risk of a Trumpist sympathizer on the jury to torpedo it, but you're probably just as likely to have one in New York or some other jurisdiction.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
3. They may not have much choice
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 03:38 PM
Jun 2023

The bulk of the crimes were all committed in Florida.

Only obstruction, perjury, false statements could possibly justify a DC venue.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
5. Joyce Vance said last night
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:09 PM
Jun 2023

That by law, a trial must be held where the crime happened. But he may also face charges in DC.

Remember that Manafort was tried in both DC and Virginia.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. The problem is...
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jun 2023

..:is there even the slightest chance you could get a jury in Florida without a single MAGA diehard who will guarantee a mistrial?

Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
8. Palm Beach County is fairly liberal.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:18 PM
Jun 2023

You could get a MAGA holdout here, but you could just as well get one in New York as well.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
14. But the documents were stolen in DC.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jun 2023

Could he be charged with the document theft in DC, Florida for the obstruction/cover up?

republianmushroom

(13,581 posts)
4. If so the indictment would be in Washington, that is where is was when he stole the doc's,
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 03:56 PM
Jun 2023

not in Florida.

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