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tblue37

(65,217 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:14 PM Jun 2023

Two large groups have just pulled their conventions out of Orlando citing the hostile political

climate created by Desantis.



AnitaB.org, an organization of female and nonbinary tech workers, is moving its annual convention out of Orlando and taking its business elsewhere, citing Florida’s political climate and actions taken by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Legislature.

And another group of nurses is canceling a 2027 event because of similar concerns, according to the Orange County Convention Center.

The cancellations are the latest economic blow to the region, coming in the wake of Walt Disney Co.’s decision to drop plans for a nearly $1 billion corporate campus in Orlando with 2,000 high-paying jobs.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/06/07/2-groups-cancel-orlando-conventions-as-worries-over-political-climate-grow/

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Two large groups have just pulled their conventions out of Orlando citing the hostile political (Original Post) tblue37 Jun 2023 OP
He is a short, MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #1
He honestly doesn't understand much except 'I want, I want, I want." Biophilic Jun 2023 #6
Except, brakester Jun 2023 #8
He has the full backing of the state legislature gratuitous Jun 2023 #12
Yeah, he couldn't have done it without them. Biophilic Jun 2023 #14
Don't hold your breath. Marcus IM Jun 2023 #15
Hmmm, interesting. I do see a problem there. Biophilic Jun 2023 #28
Do we know the names of the two groups that pulled the plug? Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #2
See 👇 underpants Jun 2023 #4
Gotcha Brother Buzz Jun 2023 #5
AnitaB and a nursing convention in 2027 underpants Jun 2023 #3
hihowdi. what is non binary? thanks . AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #33
Non-binaries. Whatthe_Firetruck Jun 2023 #37
Post removed Post removed Jun 2023 #43
Wow, cringey bruv, so cringe. In fact, it's very problematic, in re., the sexual harassment scale Celerity Jun 2023 #47
Non-binary refers to gender identity Random Boomer Jun 2023 #38
sort of like bi? AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #41
No. Gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same thing. Lisa0825 Jun 2023 #45
No, it's not about sexual attraction Random Boomer Jun 2023 #50
eggscllent. AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #34
Hurtful policies have dire consequences MagickMuffin Jun 2023 #7
+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2023 #10
Is he even looking at how his poll numbers are tanking? Or...maybe he's in such a bubble he PortTack Jun 2023 #9
I feel badly for those that didn't vote for him. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #11
Thanks! We feel badly too. Biophilic Jun 2023 #13
You are welcome. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #16
I can kinda understand people not realizing how horrible he was going to be. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #26
Well, what was it that P.T. Barnum is believed to have said? calimary Jun 2023 #46
Well, now we know what they knew. Sometimes we just have to fight on and hopefully, since it is a CTyankee Jun 2023 #18
Thank you. CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #20
❤️ sheshe2 Jun 2023 #22
what about those who didn't vote at all? pstokely Jun 2023 #31
Fuck Ron Desantis and Fox News, they created this hostile environment. Initech Jun 2023 #17
Orange county voted 60.9% Biden 37.4% Trump. CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #19
I guess that's why DeSantis is fine with destroying Orange County's #1 employer. SunSeeker Jun 2023 #24
Yep. It's quite clear how his attacks are focused on the blue areas of FL. CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #25
One can go off to universities with a good memory and make great grades, however, RKP5637 Jun 2023 #36
You can't remove Orange County from Florida Random Boomer Jun 2023 #39
Good on them! Sorry for Cha Jun 2023 #21
I hope they take the conventions to a state that has pro choice laws. BoomaofBandM Jun 2023 #23
DeSantis is just like Putin: hate is his principle tool and he doesn't care or realize how much his Ford_Prefect Jun 2023 #27
He's Vladimir Puddin' Blue Owl Jun 2023 #42
Oh, good one! 3catwoman3 Jun 2023 #44
They named a group of female and NB tech workers Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #29
That's what I thought. Looked it up. Anita Borg, a computer scientist is the namesake. Don't know... EarnestPutz Jun 2023 #30
Can dethrone almost any governor. Jakes Progress Jun 2023 #32
And DeNazi wants to make all of the US just like FloriDUH! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2023 #35
FAFO - Florida style... Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #40
And the DeSantis War On Florida continues.... mwb970 Jun 2023 #48
DeSantis is destroying Florida. It's becoming a leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #49

Biophilic

(3,627 posts)
6. He honestly doesn't understand much except 'I want, I want, I want."
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:27 PM
Jun 2023

I suspect he doesn't much care what happens to Florida. He was just using us to get to the White House. We are completely expendable.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. He has the full backing of the state legislature
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:05 PM
Jun 2023

There's plenty of blame to go around, as the legislature enables DeSantis as well as any co-dependent partner could. The question is whether Florida Democrats can get their act together and mount a challenge to this political malpractice.

Biophilic

(3,627 posts)
14. Yeah, he couldn't have done it without them.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:16 PM
Jun 2023

They seemed to be behind him and his hatefulness 100%. I can’t get my head around that kind of thinking.

Marcus IM

(2,168 posts)
15. Don't hold your breath.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:19 PM
Jun 2023

FL Dems run with the same platform as republicans... Anti Cuba, anti Maduro, anti anything that might be able to be accused of being the dreaded socialism... Like universal healthcare and universal higher Ed.

And if one runs on the same platform as republicans, then the electorate will vote republican every time.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
3. AnitaB and a nursing convention in 2027
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:18 PM
Jun 2023

AnitaB.org, an organization of female and nonbinary tech workers, is moving its annual convention out of Orlando and taking its business elsewhere, citing Florida’s political climate and actions taken by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Legislature.

And another group of nurses is canceling a 2027 event because of similar concerns, according to the Orange County Convention Center.

Whatthe_Firetruck

(555 posts)
37. Non-binaries.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 09:25 PM
Jun 2023

Where transgenders identify as a gender other than that they were identified at birth, Non-binaries identify as 1) neither or 2) some combination of both. They feel they are not the one, nor the other, so non-binary, or something else.

Some are called enbys as a nickname "nb's"

https://www.healthline.com/health/enby

Response to Whatthe_Firetruck (Reply #37)

Random Boomer

(4,167 posts)
38. Non-binary refers to gender identity
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 09:31 PM
Jun 2023

Non-binary is an umbrella term for people who don't identify as specifically one gender and/or sex. It's the shades of grey between male and female, or man and woman.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
45. No. Gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same thing.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 01:17 AM
Jun 2023

Nonbinary refers how they identify with regards to gender - they don't really feel like male or female really fits their identity.

Bisexual refers to sexual orientation - they are attracted to both male and female sexual partners.

Example - a trans woman (male at birth, identifies as female) can be sexually attracted to men or women. Gender identity is not about sex.

Random Boomer

(4,167 posts)
50. No, it's not about sexual attraction
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:01 AM
Jun 2023

As Lisa explained so well, "bisexual" refers to individuals who are attracted to people, rather than to a specific sex. "Non-Binary" is not about attraction to other people, it's only about self-image.

It's also a very broad term in that there are many ways to not match the conventional binary view of male/female or man/woman. A group of people who consider themselves non-binary might all have a very different definition of how that term applies to each of them. For instance, one person might be quite androgynous in behavior; they are male and very comfortable with a male body, but still have a very feminine presentation in terms of body language and clothing style. They might use the term "non-binary" to describe themselves. At the same time, another person might have an internalized body image of being both male and female; this may not fit their actual morphology, but it's the body map that their brain believes to be true.

Personally, I prefer the term "queer" over "non-binary" but either one fits me; I'm also a gay woman, not the least bit bisexual.

MagickMuffin

(15,930 posts)
7. Hurtful policies have dire consequences
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:33 PM
Jun 2023


Running businesses outta the state, running migrant workers outta the state, running conventions outta the state.

And he has ambitions to do this to the remaining 49 states.


NO THANKS


PortTack

(32,704 posts)
9. Is he even looking at how his poll numbers are tanking? Or...maybe he's in such a bubble he
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:51 PM
Jun 2023

Doesn’t think the two are connected.

Biophilic

(3,627 posts)
13. Thanks! We feel badly too.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:11 PM
Jun 2023

But the people who should really feel badly are the ones that didn’t bother to vote at all. On the other hand, I’m not sure if anyone realized how hateful he actually is.

sheshe2

(83,638 posts)
16. You are welcome.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:36 PM
Jun 2023

I certainly agree with you about the non voters. I don’t understand how anyone, especially in these times, would sit out the vote.

ShazzieB

(16,269 posts)
26. I can kinda understand people not realizing how horrible he was going to be.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:12 PM
Jun 2023

It was the same way with Trump. Even those of us who knew he was going to be awful didn't fully anticipate just how awful.

At least that's how it was for me. When TFG got elected, I knew his presidency would be a nightmare. But once he was in office, I was literally floored on a daily basis by all the different ways he managed to be even more horrible than I could ever have imagined. I finally learned to expect the unthinkable, but that only helped a little.

It's hard for normal people to anticipate the actions of an amoral sociopath, because our brains don't work that way.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
18. Well, now we know what they knew. Sometimes we just have to fight on and hopefully, since it is a
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jun 2023

nationally known situation, we can be forewarned and hopefully, can learn from this. I don't think being in the national spotlight is a bad thing.

CaptainTruth

(6,573 posts)
19. Orange county voted 60.9% Biden 37.4% Trump.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 02:13 PM
Jun 2023

Orlando is in Orange County.

"In the last Presidential election, Orange county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 60.9% to 37.8%."

I certainly support sending a message to DeFascist, & more importantly to FL voters in general about how policies like his drive business away from the state, but I'm always concerned about how boycotts of Orlando establishments affect the thousands of folks there who rely on manual labor jobs, the majority of whom are solidly Democratic.

Now, the owners/executives/etc of the convention center, hotels, & related venues & service companies may be much more right-leaning than Orange County as a whole, & if that's the case, & they see DeFascist's policies hurting their bottom line, it might make them more careful about what politicians they support in the future, which of course would be a good thing.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
24. I guess that's why DeSantis is fine with destroying Orange County's #1 employer.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 02:47 PM
Jun 2023

He figures he's just hurting Democrats, who won't vote for him anyway. Of course, this hurts the whole state, but he's a dumbass.

CaptainTruth

(6,573 posts)
25. Yep. It's quite clear how his attacks are focused on the blue areas of FL.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:08 PM
Jun 2023

And you're right, he's hurting the whole state, but he would shoot himself in the foot if a Democrat's foot was under his & he knew he would hit it.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
36. One can go off to universities with a good memory and make great grades, however,
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 09:14 PM
Jun 2023

that does not mean they are not as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Random Boomer

(4,167 posts)
39. You can't remove Orange County from Florida
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 09:37 PM
Jun 2023

Given the current state of affairs in Florida, I would not feel safe or comfortable stepping foot in any part of the state. It doesn't matter that Orlando trends Democratic in voting, I still would not attend a convention there because of the state apparatus.

Other cities that host conventions are likely to be affected as well, just give them time to start reporting the cancellations.

Cha

(296,795 posts)
21. Good on them! Sorry for
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 02:18 PM
Jun 2023

the non deSadist people this Affects But that Fascist gov is killing your state.

MoRon needs to BE Stopped by any means necessary.

BoomaofBandM

(1,769 posts)
23. I hope they take the conventions to a state that has pro choice laws.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 02:35 PM
Jun 2023

I am from Wisconsin and think that might be the only way to get the republicans to vote pro choice.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
27. DeSantis is just like Putin: hate is his principle tool and he doesn't care or realize how much his
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:19 PM
Jun 2023

hateful policies and actions are destroying his own people and his home state.

He lives in an alternate universe where everything he wants to do is what will be done.....And nothing he does can hurt him.

This sort of magical thinking can only lead to a sticky end...

EarnestPutz

(2,115 posts)
30. That's what I thought. Looked it up. Anita Borg, a computer scientist is the namesake. Don't know...
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:12 PM
Jun 2023

.....if this was unfortunate or an intention dig at the old hateful orange juice shill.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
32. Can dethrone almost any governor.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:01 PM
Jun 2023

The convention business is too often overlooked. Large cities can rise and fall based on this very lucrative business. Hotels, restaurants, and convention halls rely on these events planned years out.

Organizations, associations, and businesses can yank planned conventions or boycott states or cities to affect real change. Governors can look tough standing up to teachers and theme parks. They don't dare defy the chamber of commerce.

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