Do you know anybody like this in your family or group of friends.

[Funtatlaguy]

They say that they are politically moderate or just somewhat conservative.
They don’t like the way that Trump behaves and belittles people.
However, they voted for him against Biden and would do so again.
They believe that Biden and all Democrats, for that matter, are so vile that they would not ever vote for them. They can’t really express why other than to just talk in generalities such as throwing out code words like fascist, communist, socialist or whatever comes to mind.

[MutantAndProud]

1. Most of my family

In my experience they only pretend to be ‘moderate’ or ‘considerate’ when they want you to either not report their behavior and get them in trouble with the law or more civil people in their social orbit -or- they’re trying to lobby anyone to get them to weaken their liberal stances

[Funtatlaguy]

2. Some of mine say they vote for the person not the party. But they can't name

The last Democrat they voted for. 🤨

[MutantAndProud]

4. Mine said they changed their mind from Trump last time

Obsessive radical catholic (Jesuit)/orthodox, par for the course with their deceptive brand, don’t trust for a second after some of the lies of theirs I’ve uncovered

[LakeArenal]

3. But aren't we the same in reverse?

… Trump and all Republicans , for that matter, are so vile that they would not ever vote for them…”

I realize we are the ones on the right side of history.

But to family you are as big a nut to them as they are to you.

[vanlassie]

6. Only one side separates babies from their parents.

To be OK with that is a test. Sociopaths (no empathy). They have vastly different thought processes than I do.

[LakeArenal]

11. I did say we are on the right side of history.

I’m just pointing out them at within a family, the emotions can be even higher and one of the reasons they feel justified because you say the same things about them.

[vanlassie]

14. Aren't we the same in reverse? No.

I could list dozens of additional examples to show how we differ. People drawn to the Republican Party have a character flaw. The lack a basic element needed by a good citizen: empathy. At the end of the day, this one thing defines us.

[JanLip]

25. Polar opposites

Jan

[CrispyQ]

13. Jesus, guns, & babies. Note how guns are before babies.

God & Guns - that's another one I saw. No babies in that one.

I don't think there's any reasoning with people who advocate for a six-week clump of cells, but won't do anything about the open slaughter of living children in their schools. The gun love in this country is sick. It's a mental illness & needs to be treated as such.

[JanLip]

26. And one day

One of those youngsters might pick up one of those guns and kill a bunch of innocent people. I hope and pray not.

Jan

[Funtatlaguy]

7. I'm not. I fully claim to be a hard core liberal Democrat that only votes Blue.

[LakeArenal]

12. My point exactly.

[CrispyQ]

17. They see us as a threat to the American way of life, which of course is white.

My theory is that much as they hate the minorities & gays, it's the white liberals they hate the most cuz we're race traitors. If it weren't for us they could easily suppress the others. My rad trumper cousin rarely rants against minorities & it's usually uppity women when he does, but he hates on the libs all the time.

But then again, we see them that way, too, so you are right. I don't think there's a way to bridge the gap.

[LakeArenal]

19. I agree completely.

[maxsolomon]

18. I can calmly and rationally articulate my objection to everything that the GQP represents.

It's not an ignorant kneejerk reaction.

[LakeArenal]

22. My point isn't anything about the argument.

It’s about saying what I put in Quotes.

We think they are all things evil and would never vote for any of them.

I do think that. I think they are all evil and is never vote for any of them.

I repeat, I realize we are on the right side of history.

[CrispyQ]

5. I think that covers most republicans, certainly the ones I know.

They've had 40+ years of unchallenged bullshit about how bad & evil the dems are along with false, & again unchallenged claims that the GOP is the party of fiscal responsibility & small government.

Most repubs would never vote for a dem so our best hope is they vote independent or not at all.

[JanLip]

20. They also think you have to be a

Republican or you’re not a Christian. I’m a liberal democrat and I’ve been called a communist, ungodly and baby killer. I wouldn’t vote for a rebuke if they were the last politician standing

Jan

[CrispyQ]

23. Oh yes, I forgot that one.

Repubs are the party of God & family values. All evidence to the contrary.

[snowybirdie]

8. Had some of those

They said they were moderate conservatives but stated abortion (which they supported) would never be outlawed, it was just a talking point. Haven't heard a peep out of them since last June.

[H2O Man]

9. No.

[OldBaldy1701E]

10. I know someone worse.

My housemate/landlord wants desperately to be seen as a liberal and a progressive. BUT, he always acts like that freaking orange gibbon. He is a big spender who actually doesn't have big spending but manages to muddle through financially. He is a dick waving child who cannot stop buying crap and showing it off. He is very racist even as he denies it. He once almost knocked me over by scooting in front of me to get on my other side (which made him walk in a massive puddle, which he did without complaint. He had boots on, btw.) because two African American joggers were coming up behind us and he heard them and freaked out... like they were going to backstab us in some mysterious D&D encounter. Idiot. And yes, he secretly votes and promotes a very conservative agenda to keep his money flow intact. This spoiled idiot is gay, btw. Go figure that one out.

[Permanut]

15. Yes, and they use some kind of pretzel logic to explain their positions..

Many examples, but here's one:

BIL said that in order to understand what happened at Benghazi, I should watch the movie called something like 13 hours blah blah, which he saw at church.

Didn't watch it, no need to since the people actually involved called it fiction.

Some kind of brain disorder where the logic module is missing.

[yardwork]

16. Yes. I'm not sure they think Democrats are vile.

They seem to think that Democrats are inadequate. Forty years of propaganda has convinced them that Republicans are strong on defense and the economy. That's what they care about. They think Trump is gross but will definitely vote for him again if he's the Republican nominee.

To win, we have to turn out more voters than they do. We won't change many minds. It's all about turnout.

[CousinIT]

21. Yep. And religious on top of it, some of them.

Judging the hell out of LGBTQ people, poor people, women/girls, ME and anyone else. They love themselves above all. And they think Jayzus approves.

[Diamond_Dog]

24. How a out the ones who say they're Independent

Then continue to vote GOP up and down. I think they’re embarrassed to say they’re Republicans

Funtatlaguy, your description is spot on. Ask these clowns why they hate Dems so much and you get vague talking points straight off of Fox. If they can come up with an answer at all.