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RandySF

(58,772 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 02:59 PM Jun 2023

Mark Meadows Removed Classified Documents

Former president Donald Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, removed more than a thousand pages of classified documents from the White House late at night on the final evening of Trump’s presidency,” Murray Waas reports.

“A former top aide to Meadows has told investigators that they witnessed Meadows removing the records.”

“Meadows removed the records from the White House on the orders of Donald Trump, and occurred despite advice from White House attorneys that making public the records would circumvent the long established and official procedures in place for declassifying them.”




https://politicalwire.com/2023/06/08/meadows-removed-classified-documents/

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Mark Meadows Removed Classified Documents (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2023 OP
The purpose of stealing the classified/top secret docs mercuryblues Jun 2023 #1
Sell them, or Demobrat Jun 2023 #15
No - not to make them unavailable. Any paper document has a digital record available erronis Jun 2023 #25
+100 - Right. reACTIONary Jun 2023 #28
Rule 1 being a toady to a mobster. gordianot Jun 2023 #2
Cassidy Hutchinson is a legitimate hero. Bleacher Creature Jun 2023 #3
And the Trumpers were ready and eager for her to perjure herself. Grins Jun 2023 #11
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #23
And Trump declassified all of them? kentuck Jun 2023 #4
Don't worry about that Trump defense, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #5
Yeah his little stubby clown fingers of rage banging out all caps is all we'll get, lol Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2023 #7
Cassidy Hutchinson also told the J6 Commitee she saw Meadows burning docs obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #6
There is no doubt in my mind gab13by13 Jun 2023 #9
If this report is legit gab13by13 Jun 2023 #8
I think NBC would independently verify first. RandySF Jun 2023 #16
Meadows doesn't add up. wnylib Jun 2023 #10
I would think Meadows was presented with jail time MontanaMama Jun 2023 #13
Exactly right. WestMichRad Jun 2023 #14
Facing jail time has a way of focusing the mind... Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #17
yeah these are "gangsters-lite" GenXer47 Jun 2023 #21
Yep. Doubtful he would serve any jail time. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #24
+1 pandr32 Jun 2023 #29
I guess that would be an effective motivator. wnylib Jun 2023 #38
It totally adds up - Meadows is concerned with Meadows. tinrobot Jun 2023 #18
yeah. I wonder what message mark received that made him stop supplying the info. erronis Jun 2023 #26
Oopsie Daisy..... Bayard Jun 2023 #12
Solomon is such a bloody liar, a DOJ official delivered them in an envelope to his Bev54 Jun 2023 #19
If this is true, Meadows will not go quietly Maeve Jun 2023 #20
He may depart very quietly ala novichok or with a simple pop. erronis Jun 2023 #27
dun dun DUNH!! LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #22
If this is accurate, Meadows is in deep kimchi. TomSlick Jun 2023 #30
Like I suggested yesterday... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #32
Immunity can be tricky. TomSlick Jun 2023 #34
Most certainly. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #35
The bus is rolling. Meadows can get on the bus or go under the bus. TomSlick Jun 2023 #40
We NC'ers knew he was bad news brakester Jun 2023 #36
Yes indeed. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #39
How many did he burn in the fireplace? 2naSalit Jun 2023 #31
A former Congressman. vanlassie Jun 2023 #33
Are we supposed to know who Murray Waas is? brooklynite Jun 2023 #37

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
1. The purpose of stealing the classified/top secret docs
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:03 PM
Jun 2023

was not, nor had been to make them public. The purpose was to sell them to the Saudis, Russia and China.

Demobrat

(8,970 posts)
15. Sell them, or
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:10 PM
Jun 2023

simply make sure that the incoming administration would not have the info they needed to do the job.

He wouldn’t be the first fired person to try to undermine their successor.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
25. No - not to make them unavailable. Any paper document has a digital record available
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jun 2023

to those with the right clearance.

The paper documents are, unfortunately, not as easy to secure as information on a controlled server.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
2. Rule 1 being a toady to a mobster.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:04 PM
Jun 2023

You always get the shit job if they do not kill you it is time to give them up.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
3. Cassidy Hutchinson is a legitimate hero.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:05 PM
Jun 2023

I'm guessing that we agree on absolutely nothing in terms of issues, but she's the epitome of putting country over party.

Grins

(7,212 posts)
11. And the Trumpers were ready and eager for her to perjure herself.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:00 PM
Jun 2023

And take the fall when caught. She finally caught on and ran.

Her former lawyer may be convicted of suborning perjury and then, after slammer time, disbarred. All for a guy who’d never give a shit about them.

I will be joyous.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
4. And Trump declassified all of them?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:09 PM
Jun 2023

How could he declassify a document if he could not see it?

How would he know what he was declassifying?

It defies reality.

gab13by13

(21,306 posts)
5. Don't worry about that Trump defense,
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:15 PM
Jun 2023

the only way for Trump to claim that he declassified all of the stolen documents would be for him to testify to that in court and no way in hell is Trump going to take the stand.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
6. Cassidy Hutchinson also told the J6 Commitee she saw Meadows burning docs
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:17 PM
Jun 2023

Young woman from a family with no clout or connections. I turned to my wife after Cassidy's testimony and said, "That's it. She's John Dean, except with waaaaay less baggage. They are all going down, even if it takes 20 years."

gab13by13

(21,306 posts)
9. There is no doubt in my mind
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:33 PM
Jun 2023

that Cassidy Hutchinson shamed DOJ into investigating Trump and his inner circle. Her testimony before the J6 committee was a bombshell.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
10. Meadows doesn't add up.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jun 2023

He cooperated with Trump on everything while in office, but turned over data when subpoenaed, and then stopped cooperating and refused to testify. But now, supposedly, he flipped on testifying against Trump.

Meadows doesn't know which side of the fence to be on.

Poor Cassidy. Between Meadows and Trump, she had a heckuva lesson on government at a young age.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
13. I would think Meadows was presented with jail time
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:04 PM
Jun 2023

after he knew DOJ was aware he was the traitor who removed the documents. Easy choice.

WestMichRad

(1,320 posts)
14. Exactly right.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:09 PM
Jun 2023

Meadows has his nuts in a vise, and it’s either he rat on TFG or take the fall himself. He’s trying to lessen his culpability.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
38. I guess that would be an effective motivator.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:53 PM
Jun 2023

I also think that, after his initial cooperation, he might have been threatened Trump or by Trump's lawyers.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
18. It totally adds up - Meadows is concerned with Meadows.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jun 2023

Being Chief of Staff gave him power, along with world-class connections throughout government and the world.

Trump gave him a million bucks after he left (probably as hush money)

He wrote a book that brought in more money.

Now that the feds are at his door - he gives up Trump, saves his behind, and keeps the money/connections.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
26. yeah. I wonder what message mark received that made him stop supplying the info.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:49 PM
Jun 2023

I'd love to see what happened. Perhaps a horse's head in his bed? Pictures of his mistresses? Photos of rubles deposited?

Bayard

(22,061 posts)
12. Oopsie Daisy.....
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:02 PM
Jun 2023

If Meadows flips on trump entirely, the gig is up, Orange Clown!




The article doesn't say how Meadows managed to remove thousands of classified documents though, especially if these are the originals. Wouldn't they have to be signed out, and back in, or only looked at in a SCIF?

Bev54

(10,047 posts)
19. Solomon is such a bloody liar, a DOJ official delivered them in an envelope to his
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:22 PM
Jun 2023

concierge, he didn't keep the note or the envelope and can't remember the name of the individual. Let me fix that for him, they were delivered by Meadows or someone on his behalf and he remembers it all clearly. Idiot.

2naSalit

(86,541 posts)
32. Like I suggested yesterday...
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jun 2023

That his limited immunity is simply to reduce his very long sentence of which he will certainly serve some. He's gonna do some time no matter what. Maybe his immunity is going to keep him from being hung by the neck until dead.

2naSalit

(86,541 posts)
35. Most certainly.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:43 PM
Jun 2023

I do not know the details, I watched some news and I think I heard it there... that he had limited immunity. Which I thought was interesting and maybe that's what has taken a lot of time is working that out to get his gold mine of evidence. He's a slimy pos and it was probably like wrestling some grizzly old, leather skinned varmint hauled in from some dusty knoll in the desert working out the deal.

Either way, his mishandling and probable destruction of classified materials (in the fireplace), he's burnt, soggy toast on a stick. I don't think he's going to get out fo doing some time. He's one of the top conspirators. He never would have taken the job if he wasn't. It's over for him.

JMHO, of course.

brakester

(45 posts)
36. We NC'ers knew he was bad news
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:10 PM
Jun 2023

long before he volunteered to be Orange Judas' prime @$hkisser. This coward deserves decades in prison, along with his boss. Neither deserves to see the light of a free day again.

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