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Appears there is a Gang of 8 briefing underway in the Capitol. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2023 OP
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #1
please let it be that Trump sold docs to an FBI sting operation GenXer47 Jun 2023 #2
Wow, yes. phylny Jun 2023 #9
That'd be good. Better is that the trump family was caught selling to a foreign power. erronis Jun 2023 #15
2 billion from the saudi kid to the trump kid MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #28
A sting operation would be catnip to MAGA to publicize as a political trap. Kablooie Jun 2023 #45
Dang. I wish I had that one on my Trump Indicted Bingo Card. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #54
I bet the repukes in there are having a shit fit. The wall are covered by now so Autumn Jun 2023 #3
I'm beginning to wonder moreland01 Jun 2023 #43
Ukraine related? yonder Jun 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Mme. Defarge Jun 2023 #6
could be doc. could be a # of things as well. AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #17
Umhm. Or the Arab states embrace of Syria and Assad? Hortensis Jun 2023 #37
Anyone's guess. After posting, I figured it was likely a domestic thing yonder Jun 2023 #47
Right. I was hoping for domestic, but posted a "who knows?" Hortensis Jun 2023 #51
Same here, yes. yonder Jun 2023 #52
Could be China-related. Talk about China installing spy equipment in Cuba. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #48
I would bet this is Trump indictment related. honest.abe Jun 2023 #5
Yeah. They're discussing potential problems from the Former guy cult from TFG's threats of panader0 Jun 2023 #12
Yep, I think they are concerned what Trump and his cult crazies might do. honest.abe Jun 2023 #13
That's one of... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #25
Definitely agree! ShazzieB Jun 2023 #34
Maybe the China/Cuba "situation"? Mme. Defarge Jun 2023 #7
could be doc. could be a # of things as well. AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #19
I'm not sure exactly when the Cold War started. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #39
China/Cuba? 2naSalit Jun 2023 #26
China reportedly reaches secret deal with Cuba to host spy base on island Mme. Defarge Jun 2023 #31
Thank you! 2naSalit Jun 2023 #36
+1 twogunsid Jun 2023 #27
See post #31 Mme. Defarge Jun 2023 #33
Who is included in the 8 ? Beachnutt Jun 2023 #8
There are 4 republicans and four democrats in gang of 8 LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #10
Probably related to edhopper Jun 2023 #11
Agree. The eco terrorism of blowing the dam means the Zaporizhzha nuclear plant will fry Arazi Jun 2023 #29
Two-fer enid602 Jun 2023 #14
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #30
Trump? Ukraine? UFOs? Boggling at the possibilities. nilram Jun 2023 #16
hmm. i am speculating but aint. dont want to get too riled up, heart issues . AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #21
They are reviewing the document Earl_from_PA Jun 2023 #18
Comer and Raskin already reviewed it's contents on Monday. SunSeeker Jun 2023 #38
And the committee members and senate leaders Earl_from_PA Jun 2023 #40
They already new what was in it, namely nothing. This is all feigned outrage. SunSeeker Jun 2023 #42
The subject of this thread Earl_from_PA Jun 2023 #46
The popcorn's on me, folks Trailrider1951 Jun 2023 #20
what ?!?! no butter ? AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #22
Going after GOP congress traitors? GreenWave Jun 2023 #23
That's what I'm wondering, as well. GoCubsGo Jun 2023 #56
Several good ideas here; could also be the alien UAP/craft or the non-alien UAP/craft Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2023 #24
Following lindysalsagal Jun 2023 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Jun 2023 #35
Aliens have landed. James48 Jun 2023 #41
My 2nd guess is Ukraine. My 1st guess is *rump. slightlv Jun 2023 #44
Could It Be NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #49
I would expect it to be a heads up that Trump will be indicted soon. Kablooie Jun 2023 #50
This did it for me as well malaise Jun 2023 #53
Guess you are right Rebl2 Jun 2023 #55
I'm just glad the second part of my post wasn't right. Kablooie Jun 2023 #57

erronis

(15,241 posts)
15. That'd be good. Better is that the trump family was caught selling to a foreign power.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:52 PM
Jun 2023

Jared, hello? Don Jr. - too coked. Butthead - nuff said. Little Princess - maybe, evil Melania - already known as a foreign agent.

Being caught in a sting operation is good stuff, but being monitored while exchanging love notes with someone like bone-saw mbs or tubby kim or loser pute, would be great stuff.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,519 posts)
28. 2 billion from the saudi kid to the trump kid
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:22 PM
Jun 2023

is nothing to sneeze at. Hope someone can make a firm connection to the PGA/LIV bullshit. These are grifters of the highest order. Makes me sick to see my Country sold out.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
45. A sting operation would be catnip to MAGA to publicize as a political trap.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:11 PM
Jun 2023

Of course it wouldn't be but they'd be able to convince a lot of the country that it was.

If Trump sold info to a foreign country it would be a lot harder to explain as a political move.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
3. I bet the repukes in there are having a shit fit. The wall are covered by now so
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jun 2023

they need to get a hazmat crew in there to clean.

moreland01

(738 posts)
43. I'm beginning to wonder
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:09 PM
Jun 2023

if some of them are not secretly hoping that the hammer comes down on trump. They know damn well that he's going to lose if he's their nominee in 2024.

Response to yonder (Reply #4)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Umhm. Or the Arab states embrace of Syria and Assad?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:35 PM
Jun 2023

While we wanted to tighten sanctions on him? Plus new concern that millions of Syrian refugees will be sent back to Syria? Or China-Cuba as below?

yonder

(9,664 posts)
47. Anyone's guess. After posting, I figured it was likely a domestic thing
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:14 PM
Jun 2023

but with all thats going on, who knows?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Right. I was hoping for domestic, but posted a "who knows?"
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 08:25 PM
Jun 2023

It's not like the world revolves around our domestic affairs.

Looking forward to Tuesday!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. Yeah. They're discussing potential problems from the Former guy cult from TFG's threats of
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jun 2023

violence (maybe).

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
7. Maybe the China/Cuba "situation"?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:47 PM
Jun 2023

I’m old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis and this makes me nervous.

AllaN01Bear

(18,185 posts)
19. could be doc. could be a # of things as well.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:59 PM
Jun 2023

i was too little to remember that , but i do remember the aftermath, the cold war and the arms race 1.0

ShazzieB

(16,379 posts)
39. I'm not sure exactly when the Cold War started.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:39 PM
Jun 2023

But I was born in 1950, and I'm pretty sure it was underway by then. I started school in 1956, and I remember reading about the Cold War in My Weekly Reader. Those were scary times. I remember Khrushchev saying "We will bury you!" and people thinking he meant it literally. I remember the space race and the U.S. going into to a panic when the Soviets got their satellite, Sputnik, into orbit.

The Cuban Missile Crisis really brought things to a head. I was in junior high at the time, and I remember sitting in school, expecting WWIII to break out any minute...and the sweet relief when it was all over and we realized we weren't actually all going to die after all. (Yet. )

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
31. China reportedly reaches secret deal with Cuba to host spy base on island
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:30 PM
Jun 2023

Facility would allow Beijing to gather electronic communications from US but Cuba dismisses report as ‘unfounded’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/08/china-cuba-base-florida-spy-surveillance

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,152 posts)
10. There are 4 republicans and four democrats in gang of 8
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:12 PM
Jun 2023

On the House side, it is the Speaker, the minority leader, the House intelligence Chair and the House Intelligence minority leader. On the Senate side, it is Schumer, MoscowMitch, the chair of the Senate Intelligence chair and vice-chair

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
29. Agree. The eco terrorism of blowing the dam means the Zaporizhzha nuclear plant will fry
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:25 PM
Jun 2023

Global repercussions

enid602

(8,615 posts)
14. Two-fer
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:52 PM
Jun 2023

Wow. tRump and Pat Robertson both facing reckoning on the same day! That’s what you’d call a two-fer!!

nilram

(2,888 posts)
16. Trump? Ukraine? UFOs? Boggling at the possibilities.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:53 PM
Jun 2023

But I just picked up a bottle of bubbly, so I’m prepared for the first one.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
38. Comer and Raskin already reviewed it's contents on Monday.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:37 PM
Jun 2023

And it's a nothingburger.

It's a FD-1023 from 2020 about allegations against Biden. FD-1023 forms are used to collect unverified reports from the FBI's confidential human sources, but do not necessarily constitute proof of wrongdoing. Comer and Ranking Member Jamie Raskin received a briefing on the document on Monday. Raskin said in a statement that the FBI told him Trump Justice Department officials evaluated the allegations in early 2020, but shut the assessment down later that year without further action. "As Republicans’ investigation into President Biden has uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing, they continue to attempt to discredit and dismantle the FBI to help prop up Donald Trump's poll numbers," Raskin said. https://www.axios.com/2023/06/08/james-comer-christopher-wray-fbi-contempt

Earl_from_PA

(110 posts)
40. And the committee members and senate leaders
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:42 PM
Jun 2023

Reviewed it today.

"House Republicans on Thursday doubled down on their attacks against President Joe Biden and his family after viewing a document behind closed doors that remains secret."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna88413

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
42. They already new what was in it, namely nothing. This is all feigned outrage.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:04 PM
Jun 2023

The Republicans are so pathetic.

Earl_from_PA

(110 posts)
46. The subject of this thread
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Is the gang of 8 in the SCIF today. They were reviewing the FD-1023 document.

Raskin and Comer were 'briefed' on the document on Monday. They, with the senate leaders and the ranking committee members of both parties reviewed it today.

I made no comment on the merit of the document. Only what they were doing in the SCIF. It had nothing to do with UFOs or indictments or China.

Are you suggesting they were doing something else?

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
56. That's what I'm wondering, as well.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 11:05 PM
Jun 2023

It could be that one or more of Trump's co-conspirators is a member of Congress, and/or the espionage charge is intelligence-related. They would be privy to that information.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
24. Several good ideas here; could also be the alien UAP/craft or the non-alien UAP/craft
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:10 PM
Jun 2023

Re: the whistleblower who did not see ANY of that, but apparently saw/read/heard of others talking/writing as if they might have. It's not clear what he is blowing. Nor do I have any idea as to the veracity of the root (hidden) issue.

Response to kpete (Original post)

James48

(4,435 posts)
41. Aliens have landed.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 06:48 PM
Jun 2023

The UFO’s have finally been identified, and they want to register a complaint.

slightlv

(2,787 posts)
44. My 2nd guess is Ukraine. My 1st guess is *rump.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:10 PM
Jun 2023

I'm sorry... I'm usually not a conspiracy worrywort. But enough between the lines stuff has been happening, and with tomorrow being Friday news dump day, I'm taking out a bit of spending cash to have on hand, just in case. Better safe than sorry. My anxiety level has been ramping up over the last couple of weeks, and it hasn't been over Ukraine, tho I detest what Russia has been doing over there, especially the blowing up of the dam. I've been in tears over that... especially the loss at the zoo, and seeing everyone trying to rescue all the pets and wildlife, not to mention the stranded people.

But my gut tells me this is much closer to home than that. This is lone-wolf magats gone wild stuff I'm feeling. And although I think I'm relatively okay in this small town, I do worry about the interconnectedness of all of us with electronics. Remember, they just arrested what... 5 people... in the PNW... trying to get into a power station up there. Were others trying at the same time? How many others didn't they catch around the country? These are the type of worrywort things I'm feeling in my gut.

We've got "Republicans in disarray" in both Houses right now, but especially in the House of Rep. Whatever is going on, the "Freedom Caucus" is in it up to their elbows, and I'd bet dollars to donuts trying to do their best sleight of hand to distract.

I keep remembering the last time these guys were called into a SCIF and Diane coming out of that meeting, white as a ghost, because of what they were told about *rump. I await seeing them come out of this meeting before making up my mind. If they look as sick as they did at that last meeting... (sigh)

And yippers... I'm ready to be proved wrong, once again. And I'll eat my words. Ain't no big deal. I've been wrong before. And like someone else keeps saying around here... 28 months... but at some point, the shoe has to drop. And I have to believe this country will do the right thing or what WAS my military service all about?? I have to believe there's still some truth in democracy and law in this country. It may not be justice, because I honestly don't believe *rump will ever see the inside of a jail cell. He'll be ankle monitored and home confined, in my estimation.

Like I said, I'm usually not a conspiracy worrywort... and these are just my gut feelings. Same as yours. Ukraine IS my 2nd guess. There's a lot going on in the world right now. I don't feel it's about China and Cuba, though. I don't think China would risk a 2nd Bay of Pigs. They're not that stupid... not with their world desires. They really are a lot smarter than Russia. If there were to do something like this, I believe they'd wait for a sympatico Republican president... not one from the Democratic party that already had a history of standing up to the situation.

Anyway, JMO... YMMV... invariably!

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
50. I would expect it to be a heads up that Trump will be indicted soon.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:18 PM
Jun 2023

And present a short summary of the evidence to show how strong their case is.
Hopefully the evidence would be so strong that it could be dangerous for Republicans to oppose it to protect Trump.

... or Fitzmas part 2 and they will not indict Trump because he used to be president.

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