Per Lawrence O'Donnell the NY Times reports one of the charges is

[dflprincess]

"willfully retaining national defense secrets in violation of the Espionage Act"

[spooky3]

1. Here's the (gift) NYT article he may be referring to:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/us/politics/trump-indictment-charges.html?unlocked_article_code=mi71xY9R81t_D9Oi1afYIA3jy8WEqaCBy5eoC6Fg39Z3UQs7irB4ioCMmoOFvcqm4_V5Ph4AioVWreoHO9w5uHySfSHh7BYWDbtDzXFgFVfLCp9ZV8fa9ItIYZ29aSU9bG1vbuQKwWM-9Qy8mpDW-NLyLvGZrVfmJcWjDEDXNAfBoUkv3jL2OWSc-jRhT34RhaCzf5RTjwV9FigvhqZCowm7wzek5c_iYc5t1tz36xj7wZJ9ofOcpzoh6uYxrheqrOqIbfB9h4KGwuozs6S6o934Nmbr2AYusT3Y3vKbvWbCqnz0pSg9r27hsGi6C0r1B5j23l2JCBK4SzW4jn9dXIPPKQJfeg&smid=url-share

[Hekate]

2. That struck me, too. Oh joy. Oh frabjous day.

Say the words out loud. “Espionage Act.”

[BootinUp]

3. I don't know what that all means, but

It sounds bad.

[Tetrachloride]

4. Handcuffs. Nice slow reading of the charges.

[liberalla]

15. Pierre Thomas w/ABC News said it was going to be a "speaking indictment"

I certainly hope so! We'll learn much more through a "speaking indictment".

[Tetrachloride]

21. well, tyvm. i look forward to something delicious

[onenote]

5. That would be a charge under 18 USC 793(d ) or ( e)

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(d ) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(e ) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.

The maximum penalty for violating either of these provisions is ten years in jail.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Right.. just falls under Espionage Act

[fierywoman]

6. TY for the NYT gift...

[BOSSHOG]

7. Does that mean "Hang Him" replaces "Lock him up"?

All veterans have skin in this game, including me. Including maga veterans who don’t give a fuck about freedom and the rule of law.

[Joinfortmill]

22. 👍

[Upthevibe]

8. dflprincess............

PLEASE let him be imprisoned.......He really needs to go to jail. No deals, no plea arrangements, nothing...


HE. NEEDS. TO. GO. TO. PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[diva77]

9. Seems to me Congress oughta codify that Secret Service protection is forfeited if you're a

convicted felon -- not sure what the laws are, actually.

[moonshinegnomie]

14. no ss protection needed in the supermax

just saying

[dflprincess]

11. Yes he does!!!

[WestMichRad]

10. Given what TFG has already said publicly

… he’s already willingly confessed to this violation. Said he had a right to those documents (conveniently ignoring the little fact that he was the ex-President and no longer had that privilege).

[BigmanPigman]

12. He has said that SEVERAL times....

He just can't keep his big mouth shut and never listens to his defense team.

[stopdiggin]

13. true his big mouth is hanging him

but - also an element of his defense. DJT will contend right up until the bitter end that he 'has a right' - and then his defense team will work to pad that claim with 'legitimate debate.' Question is - can you get a couple of jurors to go with that?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. You're exactly right. And that whole defense, pointing

to the core substance of what a president can or can not do will take a decade. Why we need to expand the SC now.

[cilla4progress]

16. Wondering if they have proof

he showed them to anyone?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. If they do, it will truly be a momentous day. But I keep

Thinking he knows it's the LONG end and has a sub Rosa agreement with DeSantis.

[grantcart]

24. That is what the Espionage charge covers

Sharing classified documents with an unauthorized source.

[alfredo]

25. He had at least one on display at Mar a loathsome for everyone to see.

[Joinfortmill]

20. We're in it now, people.

[grantcart]

23. Lawrence made an error on the number of counts in the indictment

He just said "7 counts".

He misspoke because it is 7 charges

Each charge could have multiple counts.

He could be charged with mishandling classified documents and there could be a dozen counts on the one charge.

We don't know how many counts are in the indictment.