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Garland did not sign off on criminal charges. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jun 2023 OP
It doesn't really insulate them since Republicans will still claim it's political. Marius25 Jun 2023 #1
True. I changed the wording in my first sentence. LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #3
That makes sense. BigmanPigman Jun 2023 #2
Yes, but I suspect much of the media won't fully explain that JohnSJ Jun 2023 #4
You're right. LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #5
Everything by the book. Make them prove otherwise Deuxcents Jun 2023 #6
Yep. n/t LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #7
AG Garland is Brilliant! I don't give Cha Jun 2023 #8
not really an option stopdiggin Jun 2023 #9
Did Garland need to sign off? live love laugh Jun 2023 #10
No. See post #9. LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #11
✔️ live love laugh Jun 2023 #14
Yes he did- it's part of the special counsel's mandate/DOJ procedure. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #12
Once Garland directed Smith to proceed, LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #13

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
5. You're right.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 11:04 PM
Jun 2023

The headline will be that Garland didn't approve, with little nuance or further explanation.

stopdiggin

(11,301 posts)
9. not really an option
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 12:29 AM
Jun 2023

(according to other explanations posted here tonight)
Garlands only available play would have been to quash charges (if found egregiously false or unsupported) and could do so only with a full accounting and explanation of reason to Congress.

Otherwise - the process is explicitly designed to be (and remain) hands off.
(which is what we are seeing)

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
11. No. See post #9.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 12:33 AM
Jun 2023

I did this OP because it has been said a few times in here tonight that Garland approved and signed off on the charges, and that is not correct.

Post 9 by stopdiggin explains it.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
12. Yes he did- it's part of the special counsel's mandate/DOJ procedure.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 12:48 AM
Jun 2023

Smith had to get Garland’s OK before seeking these indictments. Garland didn’t direct Smith to seek the indictments, but Smith couldn’t proceed without Garland’s approval.

You misheard Andrew Weissman.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
13. Once Garland directed Smith to proceed,
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 01:03 AM
Jun 2023

and Smith decided to bring indictments after the discovery process and fact-finding, Garland did not need to approve Smith's decision to indict.

At that point, Garland's only option would be NOT to indict, after explaining to Congress why.

My OP is refuting statements made on DU tonight that Garland gave Smith the go-ahead to indict after the findings were presented to Garland. Garland's approval was not required.

I think we are differing on timing and semantics. Post #9 explains what Weisman said better than I can.

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