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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny chance to the orange one will be found guilty by a jury in Florida?
Unanimous guilty verdict in Desantis country?
Johnny2X2X
(18,973 posts)Its a blue county and the case is open and shut.
helpisontheway
(5,005 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)DeSantis won it, and it has a big pro-Trump hispanic population.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)By 10%
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)Also, the Latino population in the county is not a monolithic bloc.
"In Miami-Dade County, the majority of Trump support came from the west and the majority of Biden support came from the east. People of Mexican, Haitian, and African descent tended to vote for Biden, while people of Cuban, Chilean and Colombian descent did so for Trump, as well as the critical Venezuelan vote swinging Republican."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Florida#Miami-Dade_County
onenote
(42,602 posts)and they voted to indict him.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)And it doesn't require a unanimous verdict.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)wnylib
(21,346 posts)MAGAs when the jury is selected?
Considering how good Smith is at doing investigations, I think that he will be able to assess the members of the jury pool pretty well.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)They have a limited amount of jury strikes.
wnylib
(21,346 posts)Consider the jurisdiction of the trial more than the state as a whole.
If there is a hung jury, then DOJ can retry him.
DOJ can also look at public records of the jury pool individuals, like voter registration and social media.
Then there are the people who voted for him but are disgusted with his behavior, especially on J6. They might prefer DeSantis and feel no qualms about convicting Trump.
RockRaven
(14,907 posts)His only way free is jury nullification, which is definitely a risk. Bad actors are everywhere.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)onenote
(42,602 posts)Of the 15 active judges in the Southern District, one was appointed by GHWBush, 2 by GWBush, 2 by Clinton, 5 by Obama and 5 by Trump.
However, if the case is heard in the West Palm Division (because Mar-a-Lago is in Palm Beach County ), the pool of active judges consists of one Clinton and one Obama appointee. If its heard in Miami, the pool of active judges consists of one GHWBush, 2 GWBush, 4 Obama and 2 Trump.
There are 11 judges on senior status, ranging in age from 96 to 71. I doubt the case would be given to a senior status judge.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)H2O Man
(73,510 posts)Ocelot II
(115,609 posts)One example is the juror in the Manafort trial who said she left her MAGA hat in her car when she went into the jury room, and voted to find Manafort guilty.
Deuxcents
(16,088 posts)Than tfg took his and thats why hes in the situation hes in.
mcar
(42,278 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,414 posts)Smith isn't going to lose this case.
emulatorloo
(44,071 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,781 posts)The problem is, I'm worried that one MAGAt will lie their way onto the jury and refuse to even LOOK at the evidence.
The nice thing about this being a criminal case, though, is that even if a MAGAt gets on the jury and causes a hung jury, the DOJ will almost assuredly re-try the case. Hung juries in small cases are almost always tantamount to acquittals because the prosecutors have neither the time nor the money to re-try the case a second time. The DOJ has unlimited funds and manpower, so even if a MAGAt hangs the jury, the DOJ will definitely go after him again.
I think Trump is going to do his typical delaying tactic, hoping against hope that he can wait out the trial until he gets a new DOJ that will drop the case against him. I think that's highly unlikely, because I don't believe that people will vote for someone under all these indictments, so he's going to have to wait a minimum of 5 years for a new DOJ. He'll be dead by then.
walkingman
(7,583 posts)He has discredited law enforcement, national security, rule of law.
Is this American Exceptionalism?
Johonny
(20,819 posts)Maybe not right away. But I assume he will already face pressure from the New York case. If the Georgia case also becomes a reality, and then January 6th . . . he's going to start looking for deals.
PortTack
(32,710 posts)Says it being held in FL will not impact the case at all, that its a way for them to side step any delay tactics they might throw out.
Take a look