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MLAA

(17,254 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:40 PM Jun 2023

Who is the Trump female family member that is mentioned as having taken part in 50 boxes?

I was reading the indictment and the section addressing TFG’s assistant Walt Nauta. Nauta answers a text from a ‘Trump family member’ regarding boxes in TFG’s residence and how many were going to Bedminster on the plane the next day. Walt replies addressing the family member as maa’m. Ivanka, Melania ? Wife of one of the male spawns? Would they really talk about the 50 boxes with no idea what was in them?


Reference page 23 of the indictment:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-indictment-document/967835b8a14a6b03/full.pdf

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Who is the Trump female family member that is mentioned as having taken part in 50 boxes? (Original Post) MLAA Jun 2023 OP
Given the wording and the sense of authority behind it... hippywife Jun 2023 #1
Wouldn't she have known something was hinky in flying boxes out of Merde a lago May 30th? MLAA Jun 2023 #3
She wouldn't care about that... Spazito Jun 2023 #5
Oh yes, that was her only unforgettable fashion choice in my book. MLAA Jun 2023 #6
I thought it was disgusting given where she was going when she wore it... Spazito Jun 2023 #8
Of course it was awful, that's why I said it was the only unforgettable thing she'd ever worn. MLAA Jun 2023 #9
We are definitely on the same page! Spazito Jun 2023 #10
No worries! MLAA Jun 2023 #11
I agree with you. llmart Jun 2023 #21
It's Ivanka, I'm sure. Why would Trump want to discuss documents with Melania? yardwork Jun 2023 #26
That's what she was doing... hippywife Jun 2023 #27
Would really like to know who dirtied her exquisitely manicured hands with espionage & obstruction Hekate Jun 2023 #2
It does seem so far below her, unless she was concerned the boxes on the plane would mean MLAA Jun 2023 #4
Melania, for sure lanlady Jun 2023 #7
Yep some cable commenters openly used her name grantcart Jun 2023 #35
Glad you posted, I just finished reading. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #12
I think he asked for new covers because there were hand written notes on top Of the lids. MLAA Jun 2023 #13
Hmmm. It didn't say what boxes ( hidden ones or Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #15
Good grief ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #31
How effin condescending and rude. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #39
Maa'm would have been the First Nude I think.. Autumn Jun 2023 #14
... MLAA Jun 2023 #18
WTF TrumpEmployee2 : Autumn Jun 2023 #16
One possible clue Bongo Prophet Jun 2023 #20
I've never seen that movie, not a fan of the star. Autumn Jun 2023 #22
Okay, but not the point. Just giving an answer to your question. Bongo Prophet Jun 2023 #23
Agree! What are they talking about!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #40
Ivanna? MiniMe Jun 2023 #17
May well be! MLAA Jun 2023 #19
I have always believed Melania is Trump's agent handler jmowreader Jun 2023 #24
I think you nailed it! MLAA Jun 2023 #25
My guess is Lara trump. GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2023 #28
Could be, though as I think about it Melania would be more likely to be organizing the luggage MLAA Jun 2023 #29
Melanie. Kid Berwyn Jun 2023 #30
And frequently he gets his hand slapped away! MLAA Jun 2023 #33
Based on the slightly-off English, I'd say Melania Marius25 Jun 2023 #32
I went back and reread the text exchange and I agree with you. I hadn't noticed that before. MLAA Jun 2023 #34
I'm guessing it's his Slovenian handler ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #36
I'm surprised she doesn't take the jet alone with her Guccis and send the plane back for MLAA Jun 2023 #38
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Lara. GoCubsGo Jun 2023 #37

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
1. Given the wording and the sense of authority behind it...
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:41 PM
Jun 2023

has to be Melania. Not a doubt in my mind.

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
3. Wouldn't she have known something was hinky in flying boxes out of Merde a lago May 30th?
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jun 2023

Surely she knew about the Lawyer 1 doing a search on June 2?

Spazito

(50,182 posts)
5. She wouldn't care about that...
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jun 2023

Remember her jacket with this: "I Really Don't Care, Do U?"

I am sure the jacket covers the way she feels about anything other than her own self interest which would include any illegality by trump.

Spazito

(50,182 posts)
8. I thought it was disgusting given where she was going when she wore it...
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jun 2023

she was going to Texas during the family separation crisis at the border, the one taking breast-feeding infants from their mothers.

It wasn't a fashion faux pas, it was an appalling statement of how she felt about those babies/children.

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
9. Of course it was awful, that's why I said it was the only unforgettable thing she'd ever worn.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jun 2023

Her stupidity, lack of empathy and priveldge was seared in any decent person’s brain. I didn’t mean unforgettable in a complimentary way.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
26. It's Ivanka, I'm sure. Why would Trump want to discuss documents with Melania?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:14 AM
Jun 2023

Also, Melania wouldn't involve herself in packing things. She delegated that.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
27. That's what she was doing...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:40 AM
Jun 2023

delegating to Nauta. Supposedly, Ivanka has been distancing herself from her day.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
2. Would really like to know who dirtied her exquisitely manicured hands with espionage & obstruction
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jun 2023

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
4. It does seem so far below her, unless she was concerned the boxes on the plane would mean
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:44 PM
Jun 2023

she could take fewer trunks of designer duds. And I do mean duds, I thought most her fashion choices were duds.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Glad you posted, I just finished reading.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jun 2023

Couple points that stuck out

1. I'm confused about the boxes in total. Obviously trump wanted to personally sift through each one.

How did he know which ones he looked through? How did Nauta know which ones to pick up?

Did they have a marking? "Done" ?

2. How did trump know which ones might have troop/nuke info? Were the boxes marked with origin or contents in any way as to where they came from? I was shocked he asked for new covers.

3. Trump was very interested in the number of classifieds found. Almost like he wanted to keep the number down for public's consumption. Maybe that was the reason he hid some?


What'd you think/learn?

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
13. I think he asked for new covers because there were hand written notes on top Of the lids.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:46 PM
Jun 2023

He probably wanted to sort which docs he shared with each dictator: Putin, MBS, Kim and who knows who else!

I agree in his exchange with his lawyer sounded like he wanted to limit the number of confidential/secret/top secret documents, perhaps to be more in the realm of President Biden and former VP superbly Pence?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Hmmm. It didn't say what boxes ( hidden ones or
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:13 PM
Jun 2023

turn over ones) needed new lids for.
He's notorious for not putting incriminating stuff in writing ( until he found Twitter lol)

Maybe there was a marking like #50 out of #100 checked. Haha

Good luck trying to get a jury to understand all this. Make a Sequence of event chart!!!!!!!!!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
31. Good grief
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:08 PM
Jun 2023
Good luck trying to get a jury to understand all this. Make a Sequence of event chart!!!!!!!!!


Have you never been to a trial? Not even for a field trip during school? Never watched an actual trial on TV?

Because that's what attorneys do. All. The. Time.

In the old days, they did actual charts on easels. In the modern era, most of them are Power Point fiends.

Really.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
16. WTF TrumpEmployee2 :
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jun 2023
Yes anythingthat's not the beautifulmindpaper
boxes can definitely go to storage. Want to take a
lookatthe spaceand startmovingtomorrowAM?



What the fuck is beautifulmindpaper?

Page 11 of indictment.

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
24. I have always believed Melania is Trump's agent handler
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:40 AM
Jun 2023

Agent handlers are the link between spies and the agency they’re working for.

So I am certain Melania told him which documents to get and which hotel to send them to…this way, his Russian contact wouldn’t see his North Korean one.

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
29. Could be, though as I think about it Melania would be more likely to be organizing the luggage
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 02:44 PM
Jun 2023

and whatever needed to be packed in the plane to go from Merde de Lago to Bedminster than Laura. But who knows, maybe it will come out at some point.

Kid Berwyn

(14,808 posts)
30. Melanie.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 03:03 PM
Jun 2023

She's got her own bedroom. Anything of dip's has got to receive permission to go in there.



MLAA

(17,254 posts)
34. I went back and reread the text exchange and I agree with you. I hadn't noticed that before.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:15 PM
Jun 2023

Thanks.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
36. I'm guessing it's his Slovenian handler
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:21 PM
Jun 2023

Others have pointed to the language issue, but I think it's more practical than that: Who wouold be going to Bedminster with him and would know the luggage situation?

The Illegal Alien would, because she's the person who a) would have to go to Bedminster with him--Not the incest princess or Mrs Gums; and b) would be most likely to know down to the coin purse how much luggage she could (or couldn't bring) on any given flight. Look at the tone she uses to say the boxes won't fit. It's the tone of someone who didn't care what someone wanted to bring, only that it might mean she couldn't bring her Guccis.

Also: I doubt Mrs Gums has that kind of pull with the help, and the incest princess wouldn't have considered making a case like this person did. What Princess Sparkle Bush decided would have been crystal clear, and no arguments allowed.

That leaves the Gold Digger.

MLAA

(17,254 posts)
38. I'm surprised she doesn't take the jet alone with her Guccis and send the plane back for
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:27 PM
Jun 2023

the puck a l’orange since she has a separate bedroom is often slapping away his little hands!

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