Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:40 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
Who is the Trump female family member that is mentioned as having taken part in 50 boxes?
I was reading the indictment and the section addressing TFG’s assistant Walt Nauta. Nauta answers a text from a ‘Trump family member’ regarding boxes in TFG’s residence and how many were going to Bedminster on the plane the next day. Walt replies addressing the family member as maa’m. Ivanka, Melania ? Wife of one of the male spawns? Would they really talk about the 50 boxes with no idea what was in them?
Reference page 23 of the indictment: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-indictment-document/967835b8a14a6b03/full.pdf
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MLAA | Jun 2023 | OP |
hippywife | Jun 2023 | #1 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #3 | |
Spazito | Jun 2023 | #5 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #6 | |
Spazito | Jun 2023 | #8 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #9 | |
Spazito | Jun 2023 | #10 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #11 | |
llmart | Jun 2023 | #21 | |
yardwork | Jun 2023 | #26 | |
hippywife | Jun 2023 | #27 | |
Hekate | Jun 2023 | #2 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #4 | |
lanlady | Jun 2023 | #7 | |
grantcart | Jun 2023 | #35 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Jun 2023 | #12 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #13 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Jun 2023 | #15 | |
ExWhoDoesntCare | Jun 2023 | #31 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Jun 2023 | #39 | |
Autumn | Jun 2023 | #14 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #18 | |
Autumn | Jun 2023 | #16 | |
Bongo Prophet | Jun 2023 | #20 | |
Autumn | Jun 2023 | #22 | |
Bongo Prophet | Jun 2023 | #23 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Jun 2023 | #40 | |
MiniMe | Jun 2023 | #17 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #19 | |
jmowreader | Jun 2023 | #24 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #25 | |
GreatCaesarsGhost | Jun 2023 | #28 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #29 | |
Kid Berwyn | Jun 2023 | #30 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #33 | |
Marius25 | Jun 2023 | #32 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #34 | |
ExWhoDoesntCare | Jun 2023 | #36 | |
MLAA | Jun 2023 | #38 | |
GoCubsGo | Jun 2023 | #37 |
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:41 PM
hippywife (22,767 posts)
1. Given the wording and the sense of authority behind it...
has to be Melania. Not a doubt in my mind.
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Response to hippywife (Reply #1)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:43 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
3. Wouldn't she have known something was hinky in flying boxes out of Merde a lago May 30th?
Surely she knew about the Lawyer 1 doing a search on June 2?
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Response to MLAA (Reply #3)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:48 PM
Spazito (49,390 posts)
5. She wouldn't care about that...
Remember her jacket with this: "I Really Don't Care, Do U?"
I am sure the jacket covers the way she feels about anything other than her own self interest which would include any illegality by trump. |
Response to Spazito (Reply #5)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:49 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
6. Oh yes, that was her only unforgettable fashion choice in my book.
Response to MLAA (Reply #6)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:54 PM
Spazito (49,390 posts)
8. I thought it was disgusting given where she was going when she wore it...
she was going to Texas during the family separation crisis at the border, the one taking breast-feeding infants from their mothers.
It wasn't a fashion faux pas, it was an appalling statement of how she felt about those babies/children. |
Response to Spazito (Reply #8)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:13 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
9. Of course it was awful, that's why I said it was the only unforgettable thing she'd ever worn.
Her stupidity, lack of empathy and priveldge was seared in any decent person’s brain. I didn’t mean unforgettable in a complimentary way.
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Response to MLAA (Reply #9)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:16 PM
Spazito (49,390 posts)
10. We are definitely on the same page!
I did misinterpret your point and I'm sorry for that.
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Response to hippywife (Reply #1)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:26 PM
llmart (14,922 posts)
21. I agree with you.
Response to hippywife (Reply #1)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:14 AM
yardwork (58,297 posts)
26. It's Ivanka, I'm sure. Why would Trump want to discuss documents with Melania?
Also, Melania wouldn't involve herself in packing things. She delegated that.
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Response to yardwork (Reply #26)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:40 AM
hippywife (22,767 posts)
27. That's what she was doing...
delegating to Nauta. Supposedly, Ivanka has been distancing herself from her day.
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:43 PM
Hekate (86,554 posts)
2. Would really like to know who dirtied her exquisitely manicured hands with espionage & obstruction
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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:44 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
4. It does seem so far below her, unless she was concerned the boxes on the plane would mean
she could take fewer trunks of designer duds. And I do mean duds, I thought most her fashion choices were duds.
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 05:53 PM
lanlady (7,109 posts)
7. Melania, for sure
The faulty English grammar gives her away
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Response to lanlady (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:17 PM
grantcart (53,061 posts)
35. Yep some cable commenters openly used her name
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:29 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (42,266 posts)
12. Glad you posted, I just finished reading.
Couple points that stuck out
1. I'm confused about the boxes in total. Obviously trump wanted to personally sift through each one. How did he know which ones he looked through? How did Nauta know which ones to pick up? Did they have a marking? "Done" ? 2. How did trump know which ones might have troop/nuke info? Were the boxes marked with origin or contents in any way as to where they came from? I was shocked he asked for new covers. 3. Trump was very interested in the number of classifieds found. Almost like he wanted to keep the number down for public's consumption. Maybe that was the reason he hid some? What'd you think/learn? |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:46 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
13. I think he asked for new covers because there were hand written notes on top Of the lids.
He probably wanted to sort which docs he shared with each dictator: Putin, MBS, Kim and who knows who else!
I agree in his exchange with his lawyer sounded like he wanted to limit the number of confidential/secret/top secret documents, perhaps to be more in the realm of President Biden and former VP superbly Pence? |
Response to MLAA (Reply #13)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:13 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (42,266 posts)
15. Hmmm. It didn't say what boxes ( hidden ones or
turn over ones) needed new lids for.
He's notorious for not putting incriminating stuff in writing ( until he found Twitter lol) Maybe there was a marking like #50 out of #100 checked. Haha Good luck trying to get a jury to understand all this. Make a Sequence of event chart!!!!!!!!! |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #15)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:08 PM
ExWhoDoesntCare (3,102 posts)
31. Good grief
Good luck trying to get a jury to understand all this. Make a Sequence of event chart!!!!!!!!! Have you never been to a trial? Not even for a field trip during school? Never watched an actual trial on TV? Because that's what attorneys do. All. The. Time. In the old days, they did actual charts on easels. In the modern era, most of them are Power Point fiends. Really. |
Response to ExWhoDoesntCare (Reply #31)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:51 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (42,266 posts)
39. How effin condescending and rude.
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 06:56 PM
Autumn (43,459 posts)
14. Maa'm would have been the First Nude I think..
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:19 PM
Autumn (43,459 posts)
16. WTF TrumpEmployee2 :
Yes anythingthat's not the beautifulmindpaper
boxes can definitely go to storage. Want to take a lookatthe spaceand startmovingtomorrowAM? What the fuck is beautifulmindpaper? Page 11 of indictment. |
Response to Autumn (Reply #16)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:17 PM
Bongo Prophet (2,631 posts)
20. One possible clue
Response to Bongo Prophet (Reply #20)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:34 PM
Autumn (43,459 posts)
22. I've never seen that movie, not a fan of the star.
Response to Autumn (Reply #22)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 12:22 AM
Bongo Prophet (2,631 posts)
23. Okay, but not the point. Just giving an answer to your question.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #16)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:55 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (42,266 posts)
40. Agree! What are they talking about!!!
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 07:38 PM
MiniMe (21,478 posts)
17. Ivanna?
She has permanent residence at Bedminster
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:40 AM
jmowreader (49,911 posts)
24. I have always believed Melania is Trump's agent handler
Agent handlers are the link between spies and the agency they’re working for.
So I am certain Melania told him which documents to get and which hotel to send them to…this way, his Russian contact wouldn’t see his North Korean one. |
Response to jmowreader (Reply #24)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:10 AM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
25. I think you nailed it!
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:57 AM
GreatCaesarsGhost (8,575 posts)
28. My guess is Lara trump.
Nauta is a military guy and would call anyone Ma am.
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Response to GreatCaesarsGhost (Reply #28)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 02:44 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
29. Could be, though as I think about it Melania would be more likely to be organizing the luggage
and whatever needed to be packed in the plane to go from Merde de Lago to Bedminster than Laura. But who knows, maybe it will come out at some point.
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 03:03 PM
Kid Berwyn (13,228 posts)
30. Melanie.
She's got her own bedroom. Anything of dip's has got to receive permission to go in there.
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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #30)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:14 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
33. And frequently he gets his hand slapped away!
Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:09 PM
Marius25 (2,931 posts)
32. Based on the slightly-off English, I'd say Melania
Response to Marius25 (Reply #32)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:15 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
34. I went back and reread the text exchange and I agree with you. I hadn't noticed that before.
Thanks.
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:21 PM
ExWhoDoesntCare (3,102 posts)
36. I'm guessing it's his Slovenian handler
Others have pointed to the language issue, but I think it's more practical than that: Who wouold be going to Bedminster with him and would know the luggage situation?
The Illegal Alien would, because she's the person who a) would have to go to Bedminster with him--Not the incest princess or Mrs Gums; and b) would be most likely to know down to the coin purse how much luggage she could (or couldn't bring) on any given flight. Look at the tone she uses to say the boxes won't fit. It's the tone of someone who didn't care what someone wanted to bring, only that it might mean she couldn't bring her Guccis. Also: I doubt Mrs Gums has that kind of pull with the help, and the incest princess wouldn't have considered making a case like this person did. What Princess Sparkle Bush decided would have been crystal clear, and no arguments allowed. That leaves the Gold Digger. |
Response to ExWhoDoesntCare (Reply #36)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:27 PM
MLAA (15,930 posts)
38. I'm surprised she doesn't take the jet alone with her Guccis and send the plane back for
the puck a l’orange since she has a separate bedroom is often slapping away his little hands!
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Response to MLAA (Original post)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:24 PM
GoCubsGo (31,807 posts)
37. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Lara.
She seemed to have her grubby fingers in a lot stuff.
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