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RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:40 PM Nov 2012

Gerrymandered Boehner has no real authority ...

Why should President Obama even deal with him when the GOP "lost" the House by over one half million votes?

I think the Gerrymandered House issue needs to come up frequently to shut up these repugs less they claim victory and the masses see this other form of voter fraud as legitimate.

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Gerrymandered Boehner has no real authority ... (Original Post) RedCloud Nov 2012 OP
Unfortunately those half a million votes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #1
Ohio and Pa are text book examples of it. RedCloud Nov 2012 #2
No question that gerrymandering had a negative effect on the outcomes by district SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #3
He is next in line after the VP for the presidency... ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #4
Your title is the scariest ever SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #5
There will have to be some give and take ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #6
+1000000 n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #7

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
1. Unfortunately those half a million votes
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nov 2012

mean nothing, since not enough of them went into districts where an incumbent Republican was running.

It would be interesting to see the distribution of the votes, compared to 2010. That would show us whether it was a matter of higher Democratic turnout, i.e, higher margins of victory for incumbent Democrats, or more people actually switching their votes from last time, i.e., close losses in incumbent Republican districts.

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
2. Ohio and Pa are text book examples of it.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

Obama carried both states.

Even though Obama won Pennsylvania by 5 points, Republicans took 13 of 18 House districts. In Ohio, Obama won by two and the GOP kept 12 of 16 House seats.*

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
3. No question that gerrymandering had a negative effect on the outcomes by district
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
Nov 2012

But in the examples I posted previously, I still think there is value in determining the distribution of the additional Democratic votes. I think if it is the latter of my examples, it shows a real chance for Democrats to take a number of those seats in 2014, in spite of gerrymandering.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
4. He is next in line after the VP for the presidency...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:31 PM
Nov 2012

And can block just about anything he chooses in House. Whether we like it or not he has both power and authority

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
5. Your title is the scariest ever
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:33 PM
Nov 2012

Very true, but scary nonetheless.

I have no doubt that President Obama is going to drive a hard bargain, given his mandate. But the bottom line is that House members were elected as well, and they can't just be ignored and steamrolled. Democrats don't have enough votes in the House to pass anything on their own.

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