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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:43 PM Nov 2012

Frank Rich: Petraeus Affair Just Gets Stranger



What’s also fascinating to me is how Paula Broadwell, who had no professional writing experience and didn’t actually write the unfortunately titled All In herself (there’s a credited co-author), had such tentacles not only into Petraeus’s world but into other elite circles in the political-media-Beltway arena. An interesting road map can be found on the book’s Amazon.com page, where we find over-the-top blurbs praising Broadwell by, among others, David Gergen (of CNN) and Michael O’Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who was a major cheerleader of both the Iraq War in general and Petraeus in particular. Did they know anything before the rest of us did? Did Vernon Loeb, the Washington Post editor who co-wrote All In? If you read Fred Kaplan, the military columnist for Slate who broke the news of Broadwell’s identity last week, it’s clear that Petraeus’s relationship to his biographer had raised many questions long before now. The questions that matter are not about sex but professionalism and possibly security: Petraeus apparently bent rules of procedure and decorum for Broadwell for an extended period of time, and was all but begging to be found out, it seems. .......hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........


http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/frank-rich-petraeus-affair-just-gets-stranger.html
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Frank Rich: Petraeus Affair Just Gets Stranger (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
50 Shades of Grey: DC Pryderi Nov 2012 #1
Factor that in with six degrees of separation Fumesucker Nov 2012 #3
No kidding Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Pryderi Nov 2012 #26
This is a big deal. nt patrice Nov 2012 #2
Watching all of this unfold is going to be hifiguy Nov 2012 #4
I hated when they went after Clinton over sex and I hate this story too. Hamlette Nov 2012 #5
If Petraeus was screwing the hotel maid or his wife's friend, I'd agree TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #6
I haven't seen any evidence of that yet Hamlette Nov 2012 #13
I'm interested to find out why Eric Cantor knew in August and what he planned to do with that info. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #16
THIS^^ Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #24
This is more than a garden-variety affair. Monica wasn't privy to Clinton's e-mails, e.g. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #8
^^^ This Zoeisright Nov 2012 #19
I despise BetrayUs smaug Nov 2012 #20
Broadwell ambition Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #7
And isn't her surname interesting? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #9
Symbols reflected in a script she wrote LOL Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #15
If there were an emergency and all the hotels in the DC MineralMan Nov 2012 #10
K&R. Great read as its pretty wide ranging conversation about the weeks events. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #11
Of course they have no intent 2naSalit Nov 2012 #17
If Rich thinks there a story Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #12
She's being portayed as an 2naSalit Nov 2012 #14
The old 'nuts and sluts' formula for discrediting any woman Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #21
That's one of the first 2naSalit Nov 2012 #25
"...the unfortunately titled All In..." ljm2002 Nov 2012 #18
Can I add here: Stop appointing Republican darlings to be "Bi-Partisan"? ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #22
+1000. (•cough•StanMcChrystal•cough) bullwinkle428 Nov 2012 #27
It is interesting quaker bill Nov 2012 #28

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
23. No kidding
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:21 PM
Nov 2012

I sense the curtain has been raised just a little on the REAL world of DC power politics. This is a sick world of corruption, sex, gold-diggers and threatened blackmail.

We haven't heard the last of this.

Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #23)

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
5. I hated when they went after Clinton over sex and I hate this story too.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Nov 2012

unless it's like what happened at BBC, sex is off limits. You trust the guy to run a war and the CIA you should trust him not to give his girlfriend secrets. If there is some evidence she is a foreign spy, maybe I care, but if they are both of age we should drop this now.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. If Petraeus was screwing the hotel maid or his wife's friend, I'd agree
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

with you. That's tawdry stuff, but not really our concern once he's a civilian. But he was screwing a very well-connected woman who is using and spouting possibly sensitive/classified information about national security issues. And there may be a political angle. That makes it more interesting than an old skirt chaser skirt-chasing.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
13. I haven't seen any evidence of that yet
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:53 PM
Nov 2012

lots of speculation but remember the FBI cleared him and he used his private email. Not sure how insecure that is but apparently the FBI found there was no security breach, real or potential.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
16. I'm interested to find out why Eric Cantor knew in August and what he planned to do with that info.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:05 PM
Nov 2012

It's fascinating that this all broke right after the election. If Willard had won, would Cantor have used this to maneuver Petraeus about Benghazi? That's what I want to know. Where this goes. I have zero interest in the General and what he does with his little 'Private.'

smaug

(230 posts)
20. I despise BetrayUs
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

But I absolutely agree with you in this instance. It's time to get out of the 1890s mentality in this sort of activity. I understand from the reports of the FBI's investigation that no illegal or national security issues were found. It's not illegal, so why the resignation? Oh, and the FBI "whistleblower?" I hear the Nome office is quite 'white' this time of year. Permanently reassign him. And ostracize Reichert and Cantor - how dare they interfere in this! Pelosi should be haranguing Boner nonstop on demanding their removal from office, never to return to DC.

MineralMan

(146,312 posts)
10. If there were an emergency and all the hotels in the DC
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
Nov 2012

area and suburbs had to be evacuated immediately, very few married couples would be among the evacuees. Musical beds is the favorite game there. A helluva lot of people there are having affairs with each others' spouses in the DC area.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. K&R. Great read as its pretty wide ranging conversation about the weeks events.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

I like this part (even though it isn't about Petraeus)...

"You write this week about the GOP's estrangement from reality on everything from climate change to polling data. Do you see any way back for them from Truthiness to truth?"


"No. Are the real powers in the GOP going to forswear the echo chamber of Fox News (no matter how much apostate conservatives like David Frum beg them to)? Are they really going to abandon think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute, analysts like Michael Barone, and pollsters like Rasmussen that tell them what they want to hear? Are they going to heed climate change science? Are they going to acknowledge that they don’t have just an “outreach” problem with minorities and women but policy problems that extend beyond the party’s harsh line on immigration (which is corrected easily)? I see no signs. Those who got this election wrong and whom I discuss in my “Fantasyland” piece — typified by Karl Rove and Peggy Noonan — aren’t really giving an inch. They are trapped in their own gated community of aging white America and don’t know how to even ask directions to venture beyond it into 21st-century America. Other Republican grandees are calling the defeat “narrow” or blaming it wholly on Romney’s moderation and inept campaign operation. Obama’s victory has only temporarily nicked the conservatives’ bubble, not burst it."

2naSalit

(86,626 posts)
17. Of course they have no intent
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

to change. Zealots cling to the notion of victimhood when things don't go their way and/or they are blatantly wrong. How could it be that nobody else can see how they've been wronged by fairness?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. If Rich thinks there a story
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:42 PM
Nov 2012

under sheets,then it has legs. Brookings Institute,Gergen,and who else? This was to be the Repuks October surprise,covering Izza's ass. Inquiring minds need to know.

2naSalit

(86,626 posts)
14. She's being portayed as an
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

obsessed whack-job. That may be so but I still think that too many details about her are coming out without much fanfare about the second person, it takes two to tango and nobody's willing to say anything unpleasant about the general.

I don't buy it.


http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/broadwell-depicted-as-aggressive-and-unhinged.html?test=true

2naSalit

(86,626 posts)
25. That's one of the first
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:35 PM
Nov 2012

red flags that caught my attention. He's a hero while she's the whackoslut. But in defense of the idea that she's a whackoslut, http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/01/13/travels_with_paula_i_a_time_to_build

However, http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021801412

I think they're both shills and are trying to cover their asses because they got busted for that and copped to an affair as a distraction. And she's not copped to the affair since hasn't made a statement and nobody knows where she or her family are... maybe a rendition event of some kind not ordered from the WH but the HR_Rs? I think they were exposed by somebody and now it's cover up time. Petraeus isn't saying much, all he said was an "extramarital affair" and hasn't disclosed who that was with. I think it's all a distraction, even though some of the banter is amusing, the facts are facts and many facts are missing at this point.

I wonder where the Broadwell clan is. Are they house guests of the defeated candidate or the alleged victim of the nasty emails? Camping out with HamRove? Or "disappearing" as we speak? The more I hear, the more suspicious it seems.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
22. Can I add here: Stop appointing Republican darlings to be "Bi-Partisan"?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

Really. It's not helping and you end up with corrupt, incompetent tools that end up screwing up something vital.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
28. It is interesting
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:04 PM
Nov 2012

Setting up Dems for sexual compromise has been a trick in the repug kit for sometime. It is clear to me that they never had a shot with BHO as he is just too disciplined for that. Perhaps Petraeus was as far up the ladder as they could get. If they had the dirt and thought they could use it to lean on him at the Bengahzi hearings, all that is pretty much done at this point.

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