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What are the odds TFG was the only one who got a target letter? (Original Post) MLAA Jul 2023 OP
It's not the sort of thing most people would talk about. TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #1
That's what I was thinking and hoping that a whole stack of Target letters went out. MLAA Jul 2023 #3
Exactly MLAA Duncanpup Jul 2023 #7
I sure hope it is zero Takket Jul 2023 #2
Right on! Those asking for pardons. MLAA Jul 2023 #4
Fred wants to know all about the usonian Jul 2023 #10
Priceless! MLAA Jul 2023 #15
There must be others - maybe not at the same time, though. Ocelot II Jul 2023 #5
They probably have made deals, esp Meadows. I also got a sense Ghouliani was seeking a deal. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #6
I'm hoping that even the flippers are held accountable to some degree, so limited immunity. MLAA Jul 2023 #9
Eastman will go down with the ship Effete Snob Jul 2023 #12
I think he is a coward and try and wriggle out, then try and flip when he sees how bad things are. MLAA Jul 2023 #16
If I was the prosecutor, I wouldn't want him Effete Snob Jul 2023 #20
Disbarred and behind bars double barred. MLAA Jul 2023 #23
The more we learn about meadows, the less acceptable an immunity ecstatic Jul 2023 #26
I could live with meadows getting less time, say at least 4 years as long as he cooperated MLAA Jul 2023 #28
I wish Jack Smith was going after members of Congress but I doubt it Marius25 Jul 2023 #8
I'm still holding out hope. MLAA Jul 2023 #19
zero Effete Snob Jul 2023 #11
Oh I hope they can convict enough to fill a whole prison wing where the conspirators have bad food, MLAA Jul 2023 #17
Holy shit! Effete Snob Jul 2023 #21
On the other hand, as TFG is unlikely to accept "going down alone"... Hugin Jul 2023 #25
Anyone else who receive it was smart enough to follow the advice of their attorney FakeNoose Jul 2023 #13
Makes sense! MLAA Jul 2023 #18
Trump doesn't care about anyone else ZonkerHarris Jul 2023 #14
I hope the pardon seeking congress reps received a letter. Duncanpup Jul 2023 #22
Has Lindsey been quiet lately? ecstatic Jul 2023 #24
Moscow Mitch has been unusually mum too. Hugin Jul 2023 #27
Ummm, with the 0s? We don't know if tRump will be charged with conspiracy, Hortensis Jul 2023 #29
Oh, let's hope we at least double the Watergate 48. Maybe DC 103? MLAA Jul 2023 #30
:) Yes, definitely let's. Hortensis Jul 2023 #31

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
3. That's what I was thinking and hoping that a whole stack of Target letters went out.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:06 PM
Jul 2023

Meadows, Marjorie Taylor Gross, the string of inept democracy hating lawyers and the full list of those who asked for pardons:



The list comprised Trump's closest congressional allies: Republican Reps. Mo Brooks of Alabama, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. Perry and Biggs denied asking for a pardon.Jun 23, 2022

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-names-republican-lawmakers-sought-pardons-trump-rcna35090#

Takket

(22,965 posts)
2. I sure hope it is zero
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jul 2023

He is the head of the mafia but he has a ton of lieutenants doing dirty work for him too. This was NOT an operation one person could plan.

Giuliani
Flynn
Stone
Powell
Wood

Everyone in the “war room”

Everyone in contact with the proud boys and other terrorists organizations.

Everyone involved with the fake electors scheme

A hundred other people I’ve forgotten about. …

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
4. Right on! Those asking for pardons.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:07 PM
Jul 2023

The list comprised Trump's closest congressional allies: Republican Reps. Mo Brooks of Alabama, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

Perry and Biggs denied asking for a pardon.

Ocelot II

(124,640 posts)
5. There must be others - maybe not at the same time, though.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:08 PM
Jul 2023

Eastman? Meadows? Giuliani sat for a proffer session, so maybe he'll flip. Meadows has been very quiet so maybe he'll flip, too. Eastman is in the middle of a disbarment hearing and might also be flippable. If these and others don't agree to cooperate they might get target letters in the near future. If they have already cooperated that might have led to TFG's forthcoming indictment.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,362 posts)
6. They probably have made deals, esp Meadows. I also got a sense Ghouliani was seeking a deal. . nt
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:11 PM
Jul 2023

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
9. I'm hoping that even the flippers are held accountable to some degree, so limited immunity.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jul 2023

Do you think that could be possible for Meadows and Ghouliani? I’d hate to see ‘do nothing about the insurrection while it was happening except sit in his office and stare at his phone’ Meadows get off without any penalty.

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
16. I think he is a coward and try and wriggle out, then try and flip when he sees how bad things are.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:51 PM
Jul 2023

I hope DOJ doesn’t need him to flip in order to nail TFG and his gang who couldn’t treason straight.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
20. If I was the prosecutor, I wouldn't want him
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 02:29 PM
Jul 2023

He's a nutbar. I doubt he's a credible witness. His usefulness seems principally served by his emails, written communications and actions involved in planning and executing the scheme.

Plus, I'd like to see him locked up.

ecstatic

(34,757 posts)
26. The more we learn about meadows, the less acceptable an immunity
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jul 2023

deal becomes. He did absolutely nothing to stop the insurrection on January 6th. An aide half his age begged him to do something and he refused--he just sat on his ass (feeling sorry for himself?). And this was after participating in multiple calls with election officials in other states where he tried to get them to overturn an election that he knew was valid.

Also, I think that meadows is the one who egged trumpty on with regard to stealing the classified documents. trumpty was soooo convinced that they were his documents. Why? And what happened to the documents that meadows stole?

Lock him up.

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
28. I could live with meadows getting less time, say at least 4 years as long as he cooperated
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 11:58 AM
Jul 2023

and he had to share a cell with tfg

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
19. I'm still holding out hope.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jul 2023

Gotta believe at worst case Meadows and Graham will be part of Georgia election interference. Fingers crossed.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. zero
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:31 PM
Jul 2023

Unlikely they immunized everybody in exchange for testimony.

There was an entire ecosystem of hangers-on involved in this one.

It would be great if they could roll up a few elected officials who were in on this particular bit of fraud.

MLAA

(19,194 posts)
17. Oh I hope they can convict enough to fill a whole prison wing where the conspirators have bad food,
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:53 PM
Jul 2023

little privacy, lumpy mattresses and have to listen to TFG pontificate 10 hours a day.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
21. Holy shit!
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 02:30 PM
Jul 2023

Locking them up WITH Trump would verge on an Eighth Amendment violation.

Hugin

(36,097 posts)
25. On the other hand, as TFG is unlikely to accept "going down alone"...
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jul 2023

Maybe what they are afraid of is him flipping to keep his bloated bulging inadequate cowardly carcass out of the hoosegow. I wouldn’t doubt that this is the main reason for their continued ac-“complicity”.

Perhaps, the flipper they fear most is the Don.

FakeNoose

(37,289 posts)
13. Anyone else who receive it was smart enough to follow the advice of their attorney
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jul 2023

That's why they aren't in news like Chump is.

Just sayin;

Hugin

(36,097 posts)
27. Moscow Mitch has been unusually mum too.
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 10:12 AM
Jul 2023

At least I haven’t seen him speaking out on his central role in making the US ungovernable.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Ummm, with the 0s? We don't know if tRump will be charged with conspiracy,
Tue Jul 25, 2023, 01:10 PM
Jul 2023

but odds of that seem probable, such as "conspiracy to defraud the government" and "conspiracy to violate civil rights." The talking heads a fellow conspirator would be required. Could be either indicted or UNindicted, though.

Hard to imagine those involved all got immunity, and also hard to imagine what's coming out will make not prosecuting any acceptable to the average American. The little Watergate burglary and coverup produced 48 prison sentences, including many charged with conspiracy.

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