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Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 11:53 PM Jul 2023

I play guitars - acoustic, electric and bass in various bands

No matter how good I may or may not be, there are always those who are truly much better, many who think they are much better and those who will never become any better but just think they are.

I ran a business for thirty six years. There were businesses that were more successful, less successful and plain old mediocre. There was always an elitist who always wanted to dominate the narrative thinking that they were for some reason smarter or better than those who didn’t sell at least $15M a year in goods or services.

I came to DU to share my opinions which to some are valid, to some they are invalid and to others plain old meaningless.

I’m getting tired of the warfare that seems to be emerging when someone states an opinion that the
“almighty” need to grind into the ground. It was not a post of mine in particular. I just spent the last half hour or so going down the General Discussion list and getting repulsed at the “ holier than thou” responses to people’s posts. I thought we were all on the same team here but find myself having to put up with another top shelf guitar player who thinks that their chops are the only ones that count.

I enjoy DU and will continue to monitor and occasionally add my two bits, but honestly, I sure don’t need the shit that some are throwing at others for simply speaking their mind.

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I play guitars - acoustic, electric and bass in various bands (Original Post) Firestorm49 Jul 2023 OP
What kind of music? Marcus IM Jul 2023 #1
The original band was blues/ rock for 16 years. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #4
That's gotta be SUPER fun! Especially as you okay and interpret the "new stuff". calimary Jul 2023 #20
Thank you Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #29
I have no H2O Man Jul 2023 #2
I guess that I'm just surprised at the retaliation lately. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #5
I block a bunch of topics such as DeSantis Tetrachloride Jul 2023 #18
Well, try not to let it get to you. calimary Jul 2023 #21
Thanks. I can certainly deal with it but I just don't see the need for some to be nasty in their cri Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #30
👍 Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #35
👍 Firestorm49 Aug 2023 #45
People who claim to have no musical talent are often Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #8
I'm that person. Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #25
Amen, Mr. Bill Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #31
When my older daughter H2O Man Jul 2023 #39
There's a lot of very good and free apps for iPads, I've been enjoying the keyboard ones MagickMuffin Jul 2023 #41
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ msfiddlestix Jul 2023 #28
Dedication is all consuming. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #36
the defendent will be the republican nominee... jcgoldie Jul 2023 #19
I play guitar too! Beakybird Jul 2023 #3
Thanks. I had to end the blues band because my ears ring like a bitch. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #6
Did you see the post a few days ago about new Tinnitus therapy? diva77 Jul 2023 #14
I'll have to check it out. Beakybird Jul 2023 #17
Thanks. Each year during my physical I ask the Dr. if there are any new developments Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #37
Please let us know what your Dr. thinks about the article - if you're able to diva77 Jul 2023 #44
What instrument do you play and what kind of music ? Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #7
I don't care for the insinuation that religion is needed for someone to be a good person Skittles Jul 2023 #9
No Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #10
OK thanks Skittles Jul 2023 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #12
Play too, hoping to advance to Mediocre. But, it can get tough here at times. Silent Type Jul 2023 #13
Its those personal digs for no reason that irritate me. yonder Jul 2023 #15
Use to play in a 60's band ( 50 years ago )and now that i'm retired Clearheadsam Jul 2023 #16
Buying guitars. Buying guitars. Buying guitars. It's a disease. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #32
I play as well - mostly guitar some keyboards Jarqui Jul 2023 #22
Bravo! Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #23
I thought that I might be able to play Old Crank Jul 2023 #24
chops don't constitute the entirety of music BlueTexasMan Jul 2023 #26
Far out. Thanks for the reply. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #34
The mystical aspect you write about is called Synchronization MagickMuffin Jul 2023 #42
Musician Here, Too ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #27
Gracias, Professor. Firestorm49 Jul 2023 #33
Hey! Thanks. Firestorm49 Aug 2023 #46
I totally agree. bif Jul 2023 #38
I agree 100% HAB911 Jul 2023 #40
K bye. Iggo Jul 2023 #43

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
4. The original band was blues/ rock for 16 years.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:16 AM
Jul 2023

Then I played bass in a pop rock group until Covid hit and I’m currently playing acoustic in a three piece - two acoustic guitars and a percussionist. The latest band has expanded my horizons in that I’m playing music that I’ve never played before by artists that I’ve never heard of before and I live every minute of it.

calimary

(81,466 posts)
20. That's gotta be SUPER fun! Especially as you okay and interpret the "new stuff".
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:02 AM
Jul 2023

My son had his own band and what a wild and wonderful time THAT was! He toured the country and around the world with it. I went with him til he turned 18 and we all spent New Year’s Eve at a UN installation in Kosovo, of all places!

He really made me proud.

Congrats on your own impressive journey! It’s really amazing where music can take you.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
2. I have no
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:05 AM
Jul 2023

musical talent. All my kids do, but the closest thing I have is a massive collection of Beatles/ post-Beatles music I can listen to. I did, however, once play on stage with David Peel & the Lower East Side Gang.

I like DU, and most of the people here. Even with those I have nothing in common with, including social and most political beliefs and values, I still recognize as people who vote for Democratic Party candidates. I think that is the team that you make mention of.

In times past, this forum has had some tensions during the presidential primary season. So that doesn't apply this time, as it is obvious that forum members support President Biden for re-election. In my opinion, this is important, because I think he is the only one who will beat the defendent -- and the defendent will be the republican nominee.

Thus, the hostility that I see expressed on some -- not all -- OP/threads comes from another source. I would venture that it the effect of the national lack of mental health. I'm not saying it is mental illness. But we are witnessing some unhealthy trends.

calimary

(81,466 posts)
21. Well, try not to let it get to you.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:04 AM
Jul 2023

You have too valuable a contribution to add in here. And always remember you’re surrounded by friends here who keep the buttheads at a safe distance.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
8. People who claim to have no musical talent are often
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:27 AM
Jul 2023

the most appreciative people in the audience. It’s a pleasure to chew the fat with them during breaks or after a gig.

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
25. I'm that person.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:45 AM
Jul 2023

Whenever I get a chance to talk to a professional musician, whether at a bar where they are playing, or in any social situation, I tell them although I can't play music no matter how hard I try, that music is still a big part of my life, and whatever kind of music you play and how well you do it, thank you for just getting on the stage and playing.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
39. When my older daughter
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:01 PM
Jul 2023

was in elementary school, the summer between 5th and 6th grades, she asked me if I minded if she played my guitar. No problem. An hour after she picked it up, the first time she ever held one, she came downstairs and played a Bob Marley song she had taught herself. These days, she records in NYC and Boston. In August, she'll be here in rural upstate NY to record some live music with some of her friends from high school and college.

Some people have that type of natural talent. Others have to put in years of practice. And still others, like myself, are best off as audience members. The only thing I had serious talent to perform in front of an audience with was the great sport of boxing. Today, my fingers are so damaged from that, that I couldn't play the simplest of songs on a guitar.

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
41. There's a lot of very good and free apps for iPads, I've been enjoying the keyboard ones
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 01:22 PM
Jul 2023



I’m not a trained musician but I compose music. I’ve gotten to where I won’t watch the notes I’m playing, kinda like blind people have to do. I’m quite surprised at the outcomes.


I record them, something I don’t have to require someone else to do for me. Lots of fun!


AudioKit Synth One is a great program totally free and worth every penny and more! I’m in the process of building my knowledge of synthesizers. You certainly don’t need to have musical talent to play around and create music.

As an extra bonus you can play around with it and your grandchild!


And congratulations to your daughter. Perhaps you could share some of her music with us.


🕯️🌹❤️


msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
28. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 09:12 AM
Jul 2023

I agree. I too am a musician. Not a stellar musician, but very passionate.

During my 9 to 5 working years, I had at various points devoted my "spare" time practicing, rehearsing with various bands I performed or collaborated with. Lot of important skills developed from all of that experience, along with learning how to tap dance around various egos.

There have been periods of my life I didn't play at all. Instruments in the closet because of other things going on in my life, including mind sucking political activism at various points.

Working with certain band mates fragile egos or other emotional issues could from time to time be difficult , but I've found in political world, it goes to a completely different level of 'insanity' from time to time.

Right now, these past several years and especially during Covid, I've been practicing intensely, learning new instruments just for my mental and emotional health and of course personal pleasure. It's my "high".

In the wee hours of the morning however, I come to DU and browse the headers to check if that orange slob and his cohorts are face to face with justice and behind bars yet. I continue to be disappointed to read of his rallies and the clown show in congress.

all of these assholes need to be locked in various institutions of course, but since it hasn't happened "yet". I turn the machine off and think about what's next with my music and my grand daughters future.





jcgoldie

(11,645 posts)
19. the defendent will be the republican nominee...
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 01:21 AM
Jul 2023

I don't think so. Why do none of them attack him? Especially DeSantis and Pence... they know that if they go on offense against Trump, he trashes them, and they lose Maga folks forever. But they are losing by scores and scores of points. If they treat the leader with kid gloves they are fucked... so why even run for president? Because they are waiting for Jack Smith to clear the field.

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
37. Thanks. Each year during my physical I ask the Dr. if there are any new developments
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 10:54 AM
Jul 2023

with regard to tinnitus. I forwarded the article to him.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
9. I don't care for the insinuation that religion is needed for someone to be a good person
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:27 AM
Jul 2023

is that what you mean?

Response to Skittles (Reply #11)

yonder

(9,674 posts)
15. Its those personal digs for no reason that irritate me.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:44 AM
Jul 2023

Argue an opinion, discuss options - that's what we're here for. When those arguments degrade into an ad hominem attack is when I usually wander off elsewhere.

Clearheadsam

(273 posts)
16. Use to play in a 60's band ( 50 years ago )and now that i'm retired
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:49 AM
Jul 2023

to keep my sanity I started playing again. Finding out that 2 or 3 piece bands( or by yourself) are the way to go if you want to play out. I have over 200 songs ( classic rock) i’ve played in the past. I just have to stay out of music stores, bad habit of buying guitars.Took one out of closet, now I have eight. 😅

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
22. I play as well - mostly guitar some keyboards
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:16 AM
Jul 2023

Used to play trumpet, drums, bass and did sound for bands when I wasn't playing.
I made some of my guitars. I have fun fiddling with them and the technologies, etc and getting any sound the band wants.

I'm back playing with guys I played with 40+ years ago.
I'm enjoying it.
We always got along. Never fought. And we still don't.
I guess that is because there was a lot of give and take and they're nice guys.
We're not the greatest but sometimes the sum is greater than the whole of the parts.
I'll do songs I'm not crazy about but if it puts a smile on one of the guys, I get a kick out of that.
You read enough threads here, you see some of that. Keeps me coming back.

Old Crank

(3,624 posts)
24. I thought that I might be able to play
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 02:40 AM
Jul 2023

Tambourine.
Then I saw Eric Clapton unplugged and he had an orchestral percussionist behind him.

Nope. Can't play tambourine.

Perhaps Cow Bell. I might be able to play. Maybe.

My wife days I have no sense of rhythm. That might be out also...

BlueTexasMan

(165 posts)
26. chops don't constitute the entirety of music
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 05:05 AM
Jul 2023

Everyone has something valid to present during their performance, even if you're playing a tin can with a nail. There's a mystical connection that we call 'the groove' kinda like when several clocks in a room come into sync with each other. It's another dimension. Another way of communicating. I've seen very basic players get swept into the groove and it wasn't their technique that got them there. It was their heart and soul and their desire to be a participant in the happening of the moment. The crowd senses this also. They may not be able to appreciate music on whatever level you do, but when you start playing and the sum is greater than the parts, you can see it on their faces and in their dancing also. I once told Bela Fleck that he made me want to quit playing, but he said, Oh no man, don't do that! Close to 80 now, I haven't done that yet. It's good to speak another language.

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
42. The mystical aspect you write about is called Synchronization
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 01:31 PM
Jul 2023



I’m currently studying vibrations and their laws. Very interesting topic!



https://physicsworld.com/a/the-secret-of-the-synchronized-pendulums/





The fact that pairs of moving pendulums can become synchronized was first observed by the great Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens back in the 17th century. But as Jonatan Pena Ramirez and Henk Nijmeijer explain, synchronized pendulums still have today’s researchers scratching their heads

Ballet dancers moving in harmony to the rhythm of music. Violinists in an orchestra playing perfectly in unison. A school of fish swimming gracefully together in the sea.

Synchronization – two or more events happening at the same time – is one of the most common phenomena in nature. Extending from unconscious entities to human beings, it’s even an Olympic sport in the form of synchronized swimming or diving. Synchronization is essential to life too. Pacemaker cells, for example, have to fire electrical discharges synchronously to ensure our hearts beat properly.



ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
27. Musician Here, Too
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 07:18 AM
Jul 2023

I play anything you don't have to blow into. Played over 2,000 gigs over 30 years. I'm just doing the occasional solo gig with a 6 & 12 string guitar.
I didn't own a business but worked in big business for over 42 years. I get what your stressed about.
If you're interested, this is the stuff I recorded most recently.
https://SoundCloud.com/user-134084288

bif

(22,745 posts)
38. I totally agree.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 11:16 AM
Jul 2023

In fact, I've posted this sentiment before. I could post the word "the" and someone would feel obligated to attack me for it. Almost every thread has a "holier than thou" person trying to tear the original post down. It's sickening at times.

HAB911

(8,912 posts)
40. I agree 100%
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jul 2023

it can be tedious at times. there are some that are professional nit-pikers that live to pounce for the fun of pouncing

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