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*SIGH* MAGAS Trust TFG More Than Their Own Kin (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 OP
Further evidence that it's not about politics. It's a religion. Mariana Aug 2023 #1
Or a cult Rebl2 Aug 2023 #2
A cult is a religion, by definition. Mariana Aug 2023 #4
Futher evidence of mass insanity. bullimiami Aug 2023 #11
Of course it's a cult! A huge one! NewHendoLib Aug 2023 #3
How do you say you're in a cult without saying you're in a cult? n/t ms liberty Aug 2023 #5
I think the 56% faith in conservative media is the most telling number lindysalsagal Aug 2023 #6
We all keep forgetting the Media is an industry of privately/publicly owned businesses that are ... marble falls Aug 2023 #10
You've nailed it Larissa Aug 2023 #32
+1. Apart from politics, I'd add that what we might call popular culture yonder Aug 2023 #34
I've seen a lot of their MAGA kin so I get it, and of course they can't trust their Democratic ... marble falls Aug 2023 #7
These monsters literally believe a man that was convicted of slander RAB910 Aug 2023 #8
FLIP IT, 29% of his voters don't! Brainfodder Aug 2023 #9
Flip? no. Vote 3rd party? Possibly. Ilsa Aug 2023 #25
Not concerned, they have no viable candidate right now. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #27
I'm hoping they'll stay home so we can re-elect Jon Ossoff, Ilsa Aug 2023 #28
OH BIG PICTURE! Brainfodder Aug 2023 #30
Most "believe" him because they support him, not the other way around. gulliver Aug 2023 #12
Here's the link to CBS reporting on the poll teach1st Aug 2023 #13
Would believe Trump over Jesus for credibility... keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #14
This fromt he same sort of people who went ballistic when the Beatles quipped they were... JHB Aug 2023 #18
The Jesus/SlobFather comment moron should not be allowed to walk about in society. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #23
Cult iluvtennis Aug 2023 #15
Not sure what the *SIGH* is for. Those of us with MAGA relatives almost certainly trust Biden Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #16
Some people are more trustworthy than others. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2023 #22
Agreed - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #24
Since his 2016 campaign... Orrex Aug 2023 #17
Even spouse. KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #19
This is all we need to know about letting these fucks burn us down. onecaliberal Aug 2023 #20
There are no ideas and no kind of platform es466 Aug 2023 #21
They must like what they're hearing Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #26
Why was he allowed to hold his rallies while POTUS? SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2023 #29
I discount this kind of poll. hay rick Aug 2023 #31
reverse this and poll Biden voters about trusting Biden Hamlette Aug 2023 #33
This is cult behavior LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #35
🙄 he literally tells them to ignore what they see and hear with their own ecstatic Aug 2023 #36

lindysalsagal

(22,718 posts)
6. I think the 56% faith in conservative media is the most telling number
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:13 AM
Aug 2023

If the media within their silo can't be trusted, who can?

I wonder if it isn't just the pure inability to understand big civic concepts and the governmental terminology that makes them so suspicious?

Maybe it's simply cognitive impairment? Maybe it's the stupid? TFG tells them their smart, so, they sign on?

marble falls

(67,049 posts)
10. We all keep forgetting the Media is an industry of privately/publicly owned businesses that are ...
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:24 AM
Aug 2023

... out to make money. Of course they manipulate the news and always have. Sometimes more than other times, but now with an election like none ever held before they have been ginning controversy more than ever before than any other election.

It's almost like the way media advertising has stretched the Christmas season to the end of August for shopping. The elections used to be a one year coverage. Now it's being hyped like a prize fight more than two years before the election. It serves to make Congress start their reelection immediately after being sworn in. Effectively they make Reps all lame ducks.

Larissa

(793 posts)
32. You've nailed it
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:43 PM
Aug 2023

Mass media, more than any other force I can think of, has done the most to elevate Trump to cult status. Even after Biden was elected, their focus continued to be on Trump twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. With the exception of the foreign press, I recently decided not to read or click on any American-based "news" stories related to Trump. It's stunning what a challenge that is because Trump is the primary focus of so many media outlets around the clock with their rank fellatio of him 24/7/365. Those who lack any modicum of critical thinking are easily sucked into this wretched muck that legitimizes a lawless criminal; a pathological liar of a thug, a rapist and a thief who serves no one except himself.

yonder

(10,105 posts)
34. +1. Apart from politics, I'd add that what we might call popular culture
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 02:32 PM
Aug 2023

is shaped by the corporate boardroom as well. Those moneymaking schemes for the shareholders turn into what many people consider their personal "brand", what they identify with, the intentions of which is largely unbeknownst to themselves.

That ruthless corporate marketting is pervasive. It is insidious. I'd guess most people, including myself, don't realize just how inescapable it is despite ones level of awareness and any steps taken to avoid becoming part of it.

marble falls

(67,049 posts)
7. I've seen a lot of their MAGA kin so I get it, and of course they can't trust their Democratic ...
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:17 AM
Aug 2023

... kin, either, so I get that, too.

Brainfodder

(7,532 posts)
9. FLIP IT, 29% of his voters don't!
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:22 AM
Aug 2023

That's 29% available?

As if he aint done by the 91 felony counts?

NEXT expecting him to fire lawyers, represent self since no one really wants to defend him, and then say it wasn't that bad, can I have probation please?
[and nothing else]
20 secs of awkward silence later among WTAF looks on all other faces in room, he stands up and just wanders towards an exit?



Brainfodder

(7,532 posts)
27. Not concerned, they have no viable candidate right now.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:27 PM
Aug 2023

Rearview mirror TFG and DeSantis for me, CC is wishy washy in human form and whose left not easy to see as just there to posture and up their speaking fees?

Cynical to the very end...





Ilsa

(63,046 posts)
28. I'm hoping they'll stay home so we can re-elect Jon Ossoff,
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:30 PM
Aug 2023

and maybe turn a few districts blue.

gulliver

(13,454 posts)
12. Most "believe" him because they support him, not the other way around.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:33 AM
Aug 2023

A whole bunch of the folks who support Trump will just give whatever the most positive response for Trump is in any poll. It's Ok to say anything at all to pollsters. They're in cahoots with the enemy.

Second, remember that paranoids and resentful people (right, left, and center) want to lash out, so they talk themselves into believing they are justified. Muggers and criminals don't even bother with that.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
14. Would believe Trump over Jesus for credibility...
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:51 AM
Aug 2023

Would believe Trump over Jesus for credibility...

... Donald has some Christian true believers.

About 2:55 on the timeline.

"Let me tell you," he continued. "If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, hold on a second, I need to check with the president if it is true. That is how confident I feel in the president."

?t=170

JHB

(37,793 posts)
18. This fromt he same sort of people who went ballistic when the Beatles quipped they were...
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 12:53 PM
Aug 2023

..."bigger than Jesus" as an irreverent remark about how big they splashed onto the world stage.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,492 posts)
23. The Jesus/SlobFather comment moron should not be allowed to walk about in society.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:16 PM
Aug 2023

He is certifiable.

Ms. Toad

(37,336 posts)
16. Not sure what the *SIGH* is for. Those of us with MAGA relatives almost certainly trust Biden
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 12:40 PM
Aug 2023

more than our own kin.

Being related to someone doesn't inherently make them worthy of trust.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,051 posts)
22. Some people are more trustworthy than others.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:14 PM
Aug 2023

It's not if you trust but who do you entrust.

Ms. Toad

(37,336 posts)
24. Agreed -
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:18 PM
Aug 2023

But my point is that there is nothing special about kin which make them inherently more trustworthy than a political leader, as anyone with a MAGA family member knows.

Orrex

(65,571 posts)
17. Since his 2016 campaign...
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 12:49 PM
Aug 2023

I've been saying that his KKKultists could catch Trump in the act of violently sodomizing their own children, and they'd still mortgage their homes to help pay his legal fees.

KentuckyWoman

(7,140 posts)
19. Even spouse.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 12:59 PM
Aug 2023

I have lost count of how many marriages for people I know personally, or a degree or two off, that either already failed or are hanging by a sliver. For some it isn't even necessarily the crazy beliefs. It is that the spouse prefers to spend time online than engaging with the people in their own home. You can't run a family like that.



es466

(119 posts)
21. There are no ideas and no kind of platform
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:07 PM
Aug 2023

It's all about owning the libs. That's all it was ever about.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,195 posts)
29. Why was he allowed to hold his rallies while POTUS?
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:31 PM
Aug 2023

He was so frustrated by not holding them during Covid. Otherwise he'd gave been out there like Adolf Hitler. Lying, stoking, doing nothing remotely related to his office of President.

These were an aberration that never should have been allowed. The lying throughout abused the first amendment egregiously. And totally sullied the office of president.

Our checks and balances are completely catawampus.

S O S

hay rick

(8,895 posts)
31. I discount this kind of poll.
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:38 PM
Aug 2023

My belief is that if you ask a question about Trump to a voter who has confirmed that he is a Trump voter, you will get what that person considers a "correct" Trump supporter team answer, not necessarily a truthful answer.

Hamlette

(15,555 posts)
33. reverse this and poll Biden voters about trusting Biden
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 01:56 PM
Aug 2023

the results, at lest for me, are about the same. since I have some Trumpers in my family I'd trust Biden over my family and surely over conservative media and religious figures.

ecstatic

(34,860 posts)
36. 🙄 he literally tells them to ignore what they see and hear with their own
Sun Aug 20, 2023, 05:25 PM
Aug 2023

eyes and ears. And they obey him. That's the crazy part.

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