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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:18 AM Nov 2012

Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY) unloaded, first sarcastically: "Let's just hang the guilty parties."

And THAT'S how you do it
The GOP has obviously decided that the Benghazi matter has a blue dress somewhere and yesterday in a House hearing Dana "I sure loved me the Taliban" Rohrabacher proclaimed the matter worse than 'Watergate' -- which must have made the loss of the marine's in Lebanon under Reagan worse than all the Wars EVER! in comparison.

But New York Rep. Gary Ackerman had enough:

Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY) unloaded, first sarcastically: "Let's just hang the guilty parties."

"The stench of hypocrisy that hangs over this city today emanates from this room," Ackerman said. "I've listened to my colleagues talk about the President of the United States and others in the administration using [the] terms 'deliberate', 'lies', 'unmitigated gall', 'malfeasance,' which is malicious and knowing evil-doing, 'disgust', 'coverups'."

He continued, "If you want to know who is responsible in this town, buy yourself a mirror!"
Ackerman went on to say that Republicans had "the audacity to come here" when the administration requested, for worldwide security, "$440 million more than you guys wanted to provide. And the answer is that you damn didn't provide it! You REDUCED what the administration asked for to protect these people. Ask not who the guilty party is, it's you! It is us. It is this committee, and the things that we insist that we need have to cost money."

He added, "Could you tell me which of my colleagues on this committee was as bodacious in their insistence that we provide more money for American security in the State Department budget. I would appreciate it."

Ackerman then asked them to raise their hands and gave them a count of five to do so. None did.


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Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY) unloaded, first sarcastically: "Let's just hang the guilty parties." (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
This should be the real story. That repuglycants want to cut budgets to nothing then blame geckosfeet Nov 2012 #1
That has been their strategy Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #9
That's why I was thrilled Rep Ackerman called them out on that specifically and hope all Democratic Overseas Nov 2012 #39
Absolutely....perhaps we should let them know that we are proud of their Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #45
I did send a note to Nancy Pelosi telling her how glad I was. Overseas Nov 2012 #73
Good for you! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #74
They do it to Veterans too. Praise the troops, boost military contractor welfare, cut Vets. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #26
+100 G_j Nov 2012 #34
exactly heaven05 Nov 2012 #37
The next time a GOP Rep does grandstanding on loving the troops, let's have Democratic legislators Overseas Nov 2012 #40
Republicans love them the Military Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #47
The only good vet is a dead vet to these guys. Living vets are a problem to them. freshwest Nov 2012 #60
So true. Alan Simpson actually put it into words when he sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #70
Exactly what reagan did with the Dept of Education. pangaia Nov 2012 #49
Yeah. I like this guy. dchill Nov 2012 #2
bodacious? JVS Nov 2012 #3
So, out of the strong message delivered by Ackerman, you focused on the word, "bodacious"? Really?? OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #6
It is odd. I wonder if the paper made a mistake. JVS Nov 2012 #8
No, not a mistake, it's a recognized word (though slang). Jim Lane Nov 2012 #13
someone here never watched teenage mutant ninja turtles (; BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #27
I did... along with my kid. freshwest Nov 2012 #61
I agree heaven05 Nov 2012 #38
I think "bodacious" is a perfect way to emphaize the gop didn't vote to allocate funds for American Cha Nov 2012 #55
It is usually said right before the words, "Ta Ta's! Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #58
Yeah, that should be "audacious." Plaid Adder Nov 2012 #18
. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #32
Words to live by. freshwest Nov 2012 #62
He clearly said "audacious" in the video. Love seeing some backbone from FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #23
LOL....that 'toon Skittles Nov 2012 #50
Now that's more like it! JVS Nov 2012 #53
Yes it was. Outrageous. Shameless. Brazen. Overseas Nov 2012 #41
Use of "bodacious"-- No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #64
Mr. Ackerman sheshe2 Nov 2012 #4
Threw that back at someone Ilsa Nov 2012 #5
I used to be in Issa's district but was gerrymandered into Ken Calverts, what luck! xtraxritical Nov 2012 #69
Maybe now Democrats will find their spines. RC Nov 2012 #7
I'm liking what I'm seeing so far deutsey Nov 2012 #10
I really hope that there is a new "no bullshit" era dotymed Nov 2012 #22
I'm seeing signs of some real backbone! ReRe Nov 2012 #52
A lot of those Democrats had to go through hell to get elected. NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #24
A noun, a verb, and Benghazi Botany Nov 2012 #11
Sorry, can't get past "bodacious" either ahostett Nov 2012 #12
You're probably right. Ackerman is from NY. What are the odds that the reporter is from the South? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #19
I think we can credit Sean Penn for getting this word into our lexicon.... Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #28
Good ol' Spicolli ut oh Nov 2012 #66
so heaven05 Nov 2012 #43
Shameless. Brazen. But from Lee Atwater's perspective the more positive connotations could apply. Overseas Nov 2012 #44
They keep looking for a there that isn't there. WTG, Ackerman!! Roland99 Nov 2012 #14
I wonder how hard those terrorists are laughing? Grins Nov 2012 #15
Saw this and LOVE it Shanti Mama Nov 2012 #16
Sent an email THANK YOU!! Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #17
Way to give'em the What's For! Octafish Nov 2012 #20
PROUD of Gary Ackerman!! patrice Nov 2012 #21
I finally saw that clip last night liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #25
Would love to see the clip. Can't find it anywere. eom ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #30
I saw it on tv liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #31
Nothing like the refreshing bucket of cold reality poured on this joke of an investigation. Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #29
I did a big piece on Ackerman's excellent rant on my radio show last night (link included) stevenleser Nov 2012 #33
How many of these guys could name the 4 people who died? FreeBC Nov 2012 #35
we need more dems to get up in their fugly grills with this attitude.. frylock Nov 2012 #36
Just phoned Rep. Ackerman's office Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2012 #42
did the same - they are grateful for the calls Historic NY Nov 2012 #46
Bookmarking to call first thing Monday! beac Nov 2012 #59
Throw the facts at them and they will run away like the cockroaches they are Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #48
yup - they are bullies who crumple when strongly confronted Skittles Nov 2012 #51
I really like that part about "asking them to raise their hands"! Way Cha Nov 2012 #54
Sound like the only agenda the GOP House will have this session is to demonize and eliminate Obama. Kablooie Nov 2012 #56
pukes. I despise them. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #57
Wow. That Watergate thing really sticks in their craw, doesn't it? savannah43 Nov 2012 #63
democrats are growing a back bone outsideworld Nov 2012 #65
These repuke set this whole thing up by underfunding our folks security. aandegoons Nov 2012 #67
K & R Quantess Nov 2012 #68
NIce! Up2Late Nov 2012 #71
+1 nt rsweets Nov 2012 #72
Why is the coming out only now? snagglepuss Nov 2012 #75
I like him rks306 Nov 2012 #76

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
1. This should be the real story. That repuglycants want to cut budgets to nothing then blame
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:21 AM
Nov 2012

others (read that as democrats) when things go wrong.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
9. That has been their strategy
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 AM
Nov 2012

for 40 years. Cut funding and then call government inefficient...I do hope the American people are watching...of course it would be so much better if we had a real fourth estate to report on this mess.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
39. That's why I was thrilled Rep Ackerman called them out on that specifically and hope all Democratic
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:04 PM
Nov 2012

legislators continue to do so.

Time to call them out on that.

In each case in which it applies.



Overseas

(12,121 posts)
40. The next time a GOP Rep does grandstanding on loving the troops, let's have Democratic legislators
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:07 PM
Nov 2012

ask that representative-- "So, distinguished colleague, will you now reverse your 2012 vote against increasing assistance to veterans?"

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
47. Republicans love them the Military
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:15 PM
Nov 2012

Industria Complex, it's the troops they despise.


Contractors that show up with bags of money helping them get re-elected, so they can vote for Contractors stealing even more money from taxpayers.


Wounded, sick Vets that bore the brunt of those Republicans who voted to send them to wars?

Fuck 'em.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
60. The only good vet is a dead vet to these guys. Living vets are a problem to them.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
Nov 2012
Might need a job, healthcare, or heaven forbid, might even speak out against war.



Not good for the bottom line!


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
70. So true. Alan Simpson actually put it into words when he
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:51 AM
Nov 2012

stated that Veterans were heroes while they were in Iraq, but those who were collecting their benefits now, were not helping the country at all.

At least he was honest about what they think of Veterans.

dchill

(38,497 posts)
2. Yeah. I like this guy.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:23 AM
Nov 2012

Democrat, huh? Go figure. I'd really like to see ONE Republican stand in agreement with him.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
6. So, out of the strong message delivered by Ackerman, you focused on the word, "bodacious"? Really??
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:33 AM
Nov 2012

Cha

(297,253 posts)
55. I think "bodacious" is a perfect way to emphaize the gop didn't vote to allocate funds for American
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012
Security in the State Dept.

I happen to remember the word from old "Snuffy Smith" strip in the Funny Papers.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bodacious

Plaid Adder

(5,518 posts)
18. Yeah, that should be "audacious."
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:47 AM
Nov 2012

"Audacious" may even have been what he actually said, and then some bogus dude at the paper got it wrong.

be excellent to each other,

The Plaid Adder

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
23. He clearly said "audacious" in the video. Love seeing some backbone from
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

Democrats on this ridiculous distraction and waste of time.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
41. Yes it was. Outrageous. Shameless. Brazen.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012

Republican legislators really think we are all their Low Information Voter base-- ready to be stirred up in anger at their command, and unable to remember their votes against increasing budgets for the problems they rail against.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
64. Use of "bodacious"--
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:49 AM
Nov 2012

The only place I've seen it used was by Snuffy Smith on the cartoon page, many years ago.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
5. Threw that back at someone
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:32 AM
Nov 2012

Blaming the Prez for the attack, and I mentioned Issa by name, because he was their "next-door" representative. They were not happy to hear of their complicity in not providing protection.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
7. Maybe now Democrats will find their spines.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:34 AM
Nov 2012

And use them as a club against the hypocritical criminals known as the Republican Party.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
10. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far
Reply to RC (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:49 AM
Nov 2012

There seems to be a new type of Democrat in town. I hope so, anyway.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
22. I really hope that there is a new "no bullshit" era
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nov 2012

of politicians (especially D's) that will forever change the current bullshit political landscape. We deserve it. Is that an entitlement? cuts..


ReRe

(10,597 posts)
52. I'm seeing signs of some real backbone!
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

Have the democrats turned the corner? Ha! Wait till Alan Grayson gets back in town. Wait till Angus King arrives in the Senate. By gosh, I think we finally GOT. IT!

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
24. A lot of those Democrats had to go through hell to get elected.
Reply to RC (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

So much mud thrown at them . Bizarre and hateful mud, backed by a ton of money.

I'm thinking that those that came through those recent elections have spines of STEEL now, if they didn't already.

Tammy Duckworth and Elizabeth Warren come to mind. There are many others, as well.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
11. A noun, a verb, and Benghazi
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:58 AM
Nov 2012

We should change Joe Biden's quote about Rudy Giuliani which was, "a noun, a verb, and 9/11 .... to what do republicans always say now that they got their asses kicked in the election? A noun, a verb, and Benghazi.

This shit is getting really old now ...... 2 of the parents of the Americans that were killed have publicly asked not to make their
son's deaths into a political side show but has that stopped these ass hats? Hell to the no.

The President of the United States is not in charge of the security of our embassies or consulates that is under the per view of
the CIA, the Marines, and the State Dept. who Rep. Ackerman pointed out had their funding for security cut by the House Republicans.

These dill weeds have no shame and have as much to do w/ the party of Eisenhower and Lincoln as I do being a porn star.

ahostett

(22 posts)
12. Sorry, can't get past "bodacious" either
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:07 AM
Nov 2012

Has to be a misprint for "audacious."

Not trying to take anything away from the laudable statement of Rep. Ackerman, which is greatly appreciated, but to say "bodacious" in that context is pretty funny. (At least some would think it funnier if it had been said by a Republican.)

Trying to salvage the word, I consulted the Oxford English Dictionary:

bodacious, adj.

Pronunciation: /bəˈdeɪʃəs/
Forms: Also bowdacious.
Etymology: Perhaps a variant of English dialect boldacious, a combination of bold and audacious... (Show More)
U.S. dial.

1. Complete, thorough, arrant. Also as adv.

Draft additions 1997

2. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.)

a. Excellent, fabulous, great.

b. Sexually attractive.

Nope, pretty much the wrong word to use here.

I had always envisioned a Latin adjective, bodax (like audax --> audacious) meaning "chesty" or "well-endowed."

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
19. You're probably right. Ackerman is from NY. What are the odds that the reporter is from the South?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:50 AM
Nov 2012

Bodacious is a slang term used by some in the Southern states.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
28. I think we can credit Sean Penn for getting this word into our lexicon....
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:33 AM
Nov 2012

in his seminal role as the surfer dude in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
43. so
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

what!!!. The man has spine. A little slang goes a long way. Like in , "that some bodacious shit", meaning in certain circles maybe not as literate as you, that is is some arrogant, over the top stuff.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
44. Shameless. Brazen. But from Lee Atwater's perspective the more positive connotations could apply.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:18 PM
Nov 2012

As in--

Isn't it bodacious of our Republicans to cut the budgets for all these services and get right up there in Congress and slam the Democratic President for the results of those cuts?

Yee Haw!

Karl Rove probably loves that technique the GOP has been using again and again.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
15. I wonder how hard those terrorists are laughing?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:30 AM
Nov 2012

At us!

Terrorists attack a consulate and the reaction is a political uproar instead of action. They gotta be sitting back and laughing their asses off! This was just too easy for them.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
17. Sent an email THANK YOU!!
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:46 AM
Nov 2012

I think it's important that DEMs who show a spine get a lot of positive feedback to encourage them because the rethug pack of wolves can be very intimidating and if our DEMs know we have their back, it helps when their courage might otherwise fail.

Message Subject: GOVERNMENT REFORM

Message: THANK YOU!!! TRUTH IS TO REPUBLICANS LIKE SUNLIGHT IS TO VAMPIRES - IT BURNS THEM AND EVENTUALLY DESTROYS THEM.... or at least causes them electile dysfunction. Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-NY) unloaded, first sarcastically: "Let's just hang the guilty parties." ..............

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
29. Nothing like the refreshing bucket of cold reality poured on this joke of an investigation.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:37 AM
Nov 2012

Republicans can't be bothered to show up to hear the real facts in a closed door hearing....why? Because then they'd have to stop lying about the truth. I'll never believe any of their 'investigations' are anything but a construct for endless partisan theater; to entertain the rubes who vote for these morons.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
35. How many of these guys could name the 4 people who died?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:43 PM
Nov 2012

I doubt many could - on either side of the aisle.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
36. we need more dems to get up in their fugly grills with this attitude..
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:46 PM
Nov 2012

stop allowing these shitters to frame the dialogue.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
42. Just phoned Rep. Ackerman's office
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012

in Queens and spoke to a nice staffer. She said I was the FIRST and ONLY caller expressing gratitude for standing up to the Repuklican lies .

So here's the number: (718) 423-2154

D.C. office is (202) 225-2601

And yes, he's definitely retiring at the end of this term.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
48. Throw the facts at them and they will run away like the cockroaches they are
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

ATTACK!! ATTACK!! ATTACK!!

Cha

(297,253 posts)
54. I really like that part about "asking them to raise their hands"! Way
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:10 PM
Nov 2012

to Cement your Point in Concrete, Rep Ackerman!

Thank you, kpete

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
56. Sound like the only agenda the GOP House will have this session is to demonize and eliminate Obama.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:59 PM
Nov 2012

Sounds like they have the exact same plan as before with the added feature of impeaching him.
If there is no scandal, they will keep repeating their fake scandals so often and so loudly that the public starts to believe it's true.
They damage the country as much as they can, then blame it on Obama and impeach him.

We can probably forget having anything approved, including stopping the fiscal cliff unless these insane dimwits figure out that they are in government and are supposed to govern, not destroy, the country.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
57. pukes. I despise them.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

always pointing the finger at their scapegoats, while thre fingers point back at them.

Thank god for the intertubez because otherwise it'd be a TOTAL news blackout.....

aandegoons

(473 posts)
67. These repuke set this whole thing up by underfunding our folks security.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:22 AM
Nov 2012

Then point fingers at someone else when it happens. Typical just like the Hostess CEO....



I tell you repukes are seriously evil fuckers.

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