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RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:40 AM Nov 2012

They've started it - "Obama taking Third Term!"

Here, the R's have started that Obama is taking a third term. It was discussed on the local R radio this morning. He has a secret economic force he's using. And a warning, that Obama is using this force and taking our liberties away by a tyrant, Obama. Sounds like a pitch for an investment company - how to avoid Obama ... etc. Obama is going to partner with dictators. And Obama will even take a 4th term. I bet Rove and the Koch brothers are partnering on this one.

http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1210THIRDLIA/OPSINB07/

It never stops, does it, only the R's can save the universe. The GOP is such a dreadful party. Now, I bet a lot of poor RW republicans hear this and believe it hook line and sinker.

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They've started it - "Obama taking Third Term!" (Original Post) RKP5637 Nov 2012 OP
There is so much easy money to be made off these paranoid loons BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #1
Seriously are the nut on drugs newfie11 Nov 2012 #2
Don't forget all the nuts glacierbay Nov 2012 #17
The latter, I would venture. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #28
Re-posting from the politics forum. Their better option. mojowork_n Nov 2012 #3
That's quite a compliment. Only one term in... dchill Nov 2012 #4
They're really scared of Obama and the democrats! That their game of RKP5637 Nov 2012 #12
Mitt Romney = Welfare King. Therefore... dchill Nov 2012 #27
Yep!!! They are parasites on the USA. They don't want to contribute their fair share, park their RKP5637 Nov 2012 #32
Those rumors always pop up now. aletier_v Nov 2012 #5
I guess they know nothing about the 22nd Amendment... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #6
Oh, I'm sure they do--they just think that that evil Kenyan Socialist Arkana Nov 2012 #11
I've actually heard that argument Hugabear Nov 2012 #33
Nah. They stopped at the 2nd Amendment. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #39
What a great idea, just when I thought the fright wing had none left. randr Nov 2012 #7
Funny, yep, I was thinking the same, well, DUH, 3 maybe 4 terms for RKP5637 Nov 2012 #14
Better even than free dental care? dchill Nov 2012 #29
That's not exactly true.. calico1 Nov 2012 #8
And Obama's also discovered the secret of life after death, Obama plans to be RKP5637 Nov 2012 #15
3rd 'term' could be a state Governor, would like to live in that state :) Sunlei Nov 2012 #9
The fuck? Arkana Nov 2012 #10
Once we have imprisoned all Republicans in FEMA Madrasas, then anything is possible! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #13
He's already usurped oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #16
8 more years - 8 more years liberal N proud Nov 2012 #18
Stansberry is a con man. trof Nov 2012 #19
I listened to the first several minutes of his spew and said this guy's a RKP5637 Nov 2012 #21
Agenda 21. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #20
Not just coming from the GOP George1912 Nov 2012 #22
Welcome to DU my friend. Nobody takes this Obama getting a third term that seriously. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #24
ZOMG O NO O NO Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #25
Impostor! dchill Nov 2012 #30
The funny part is those people will flip on a dime and call Obama the dumbest being on earth. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #36
Yep, I noticed that a bit ago when searching. Thanks for posting the link! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #34
Weren't these same assholes saying Mariana Nov 2012 #23
... something like that. Yep, the teabaggers are easily led and damn gullible. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #43
Gotta whip those Freepers into an even more irrational paranoia... hlthe2b Nov 2012 #26
They are really terrorists IMO. They are trying to undermine the US gov. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #31
The RW claim to know the Constitution. If they did, they would know Obama can't do a third bluestate10 Nov 2012 #35
Some are, but some are just plain STUPID and ignorant, there's no getting RKP5637 Nov 2012 #41
MICHELLE IN 2016!!!!!!! BigAnth Nov 2012 #37
And 2020! Phentex Nov 2012 #60
Aye yi yi zappaman Nov 2012 #38
How stupid gollygee Nov 2012 #40
I'll have to admit the way it was going with GWB as king I was starting to wonder if even RKP5637 Nov 2012 #42
I guess they are picturing the MILLIONS of people who will PASSIONATELY beg Obama to stay on librechik Nov 2012 #44
Yep, that's what it's all about and their skulls are too thick to understand otherwise. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #45
Ain't gonna happen. And doesn't need to happen. Unlike Republicans, we've got a deep bench. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #46
By "They" do you mean Huffington Post urignent Nov 2012 #47
Sreedhar Pillai a blogger and is not "the D's", neither is HuffPo for that matter. bluesbassman Nov 2012 #48
Are you... urignent Nov 2012 #50
Did you watch the video linked to in the OP? bluesbassman Nov 2012 #51
urignent's position is "RW troll" scheming daemons Nov 2012 #64
Did you listen to the presentation? Yes, you are correct, Huffington Post also discussed it about RKP5637 Nov 2012 #53
There were a lot of folks saying the same thing about * Earth_First Nov 2012 #49
Yep: NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #55
they've really lost it njlibguy_19656mm Nov 2012 #52
I think we should egg this on. aandegoons Nov 2012 #54
These people are fucking nuts. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #56
Yeah, Obama this Obama that.. it does never stop from both Ends Cha Nov 2012 #57
I believe in free speech and all of that, but what if when broadcasting to RKP5637 Nov 2012 #61
Maybe we could get Michele to run... EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #58
It would certainly mix the pot up! Maybe we can get so many running it spins their heads off trying RKP5637 Nov 2012 #62
Oh, hell, Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #59
I wasn't on here then, but I sure recall well wondering just how far Bush was RKP5637 Nov 2012 #63
Good idea. We have four years to amend the Constitution Coyotl Nov 2012 #65
Part of the ridiculous text: Ilsa Nov 2012 #66
Amazing, isn't it ... and I do bet there are some buying this entire RKP5637 Nov 2012 #67
 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
17. Don't forget all the nuts
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:30 AM
Nov 2012

back in 2007 who swore up and down that Bush was going to declare Martial Law and cancel the elections and declare himself president for life, they were just as nutty as these idiots saying that Obama is going to go for a third term.
There's nuts on both sides.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
12. They're really scared of Obama and the democrats! That their game of
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

Corporate and Investment Welfare is being called out ... that cheating on taxes, moving money offshore and expecting benefits paid by others is where the real "welfare" queens are at ... Romney and his ilk.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
32. Yep!!! They are parasites on the USA. They don't want to contribute their fair share, park their
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

money off shore, destroy companies and peoples' lives, offshore jobs/corporations ... and they claim they are ever so American and for all of the people, well, for a few percent. They are so full of BS I can smell it from here.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
6. I guess they know nothing about the 22nd Amendment...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
Nov 2012

The Twenty-second Amendment of the United States Constitution sets a term limit for election to the office of President of the United States. The Congress passed the amendment on March 21, 1947. It was ratified by the requisite number of states on February 27, 1951.

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
11. Oh, I'm sure they do--they just think that that evil Kenyan Socialist
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

will disregard the Constitution and run anyway.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
33. I've actually heard that argument
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

The argument is that "Obama doesn't care about the Constitution anyways, he's already broken the Constitution, so nothing is stopping him from being dictator."

Oh, the insanity.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
14. Funny, yep, I was thinking the same, well, DUH, 3 maybe 4 terms for
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

Obama, sounds good to me. It well might take that long for Obama to clean up the mess left by Reagan and Bush Jr. Reaganomics left a horrible stain on America.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
15. And Obama's also discovered the secret of life after death, Obama plans to be
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:20 AM
Nov 2012

"Ruler of The Universe, ad Infinitum!" ... hmmm. sounds like an old scifi movie.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
10. The fuck?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:11 AM
Nov 2012

Does this end with Obama declaring himself Supreme God-Emperor of the Galaxy?

Seriously, these guys are huffing some strong paint thinner.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
13. Once we have imprisoned all Republicans in FEMA Madrasas, then anything is possible!
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

Opps, sorry didn't mean to say that out loud.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
18. 8 more years - 8 more years
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nov 2012

he will be able to do that once he takes away their guns and jettisons the red states.




They have really jumped the shark this time!

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
21. I listened to the first several minutes of his spew and said this guy's a
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:55 PM
Nov 2012

snake oil salesman, as he wove into his spew how he had helped others avoid catastrophes to their portfolios (like Obama).

George1912

(1 post)
22. Not just coming from the GOP
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

It appears that at least one liberal is calling for a third term. I assume they think amendments to the constitution can be circumvented. See this on the Huff Post from two days ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sreedhar-pillai/six-reasons-why-barack-ob_b_2120687.html

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
36. The funny part is those people will flip on a dime and call Obama the dumbest being on earth.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

Now, Obama can't be a mind controlling super-brain and the dumbest person on earth at the same time. But Obama is in the fucked up brains of teabaggers.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
23. Weren't these same assholes saying
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

there wouldn't be a 2012 election, because Obama would have made himself into a full-blown dictator by then? I can't believe how fucking gullible the teabaggers are.

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
26. Gotta whip those Freepers into an even more irrational paranoia...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:44 PM
Nov 2012

Along with the secession petitions, robocalls for impeachment and drumming up any and all incidents into some kind of
'gate" scandal, who is surprised? Honestlly, I wish we could expel some of these who are so damned determined to undermine this country.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
35. The RW claim to know the Constitution. If they did, they would know Obama can't do a third
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

term. Are the purposely ignorant?

BigAnth

(320 posts)
37. MICHELLE IN 2016!!!!!!!
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:18 PM
Nov 2012

We'll just have Michelle run in 2016 to avoid those pesky constitutional requirements.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
40. How stupid
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

Obama will not have a third term. Though I admit I remember people here worrying that GWB would find a way to take a third term, so I guess it isn't crazier than we sometimes get.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
42. I'll have to admit the way it was going with GWB as king I was starting to wonder if even
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:44 PM
Nov 2012

more weirdness would occur.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
44. I guess they are picturing the MILLIONS of people who will PASSIONATELY beg Obama to stay on
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Nov 2012

and you will count me among them--I doubt if we can change the constitution to allow that, and they are reading Obama completely wrong if they imagine he could or would just "take" it.

they can't stand popular democrats. It's outrageous to them that our kind has so many followers when we are so much lowlier than they are. And we are dirty hippy moochers. Their minds just go WTF? because they are so thoroughly acculturated to hate us.

 

urignent

(2 posts)
47. By "They" do you mean Huffington Post
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

Huff Post had the following article 3 days ago, so isn't it really the D's talking about 3 terms? Don't let the facts interfere with a good argument

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sreedhar-pillai/six-reasons-why-barack-ob_b_2120687.html

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
48. Sreedhar Pillai a blogger and is not "the D's", neither is HuffPo for that matter.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
Nov 2012

What else you got?

 

urignent

(2 posts)
50. Are you...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:44 PM
Nov 2012

Are you suggesting Sreedhar is an R? The OP suggested that R's started this 3rd term talk today. What else you got?

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
51. Did you watch the video linked to in the OP?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:18 PM
Nov 2012

Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, LLC produced it. It is a blatantly RW piece (and this is the company that "paid" to mass e-mail to Newt Gingrich's database). The OP cited it in reference to a discussion he heard today, but the video was made and posted long before Sreedhar's blog. I made no assertion as to Sreedhar's political affiliation, only a clarification to your inference that he and HuffPo represent a Democrat viewpoint on this issue.

So what exactly is your position on this issue?

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
53. Did you listen to the presentation? Yes, you are correct, Huffington Post also discussed it about
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:35 PM
Nov 2012

the dems.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
55. Yep:
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:23 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x327940

Everything that the Bush Administration is doing is pointing toward turning the U.S. into a DICTATORSHIP. And I believe it could very well happen in the next two years. There are several indicators pointing toward this theory:

- Bush has been testing public reaction, especially among opposition, against atrocities committed by his Administration: unlawful seizure, prisoner torture, silencing any form of opposition in the executive branch, violating 1st amendment rights (limiting free speech), violating separation of church and state, violating 4th amendment rights (warrentless wire-taps, domestic spying), plundering of the treasury to divide it among select corporations and the wealthy, the list goes on and on. How has the public reacted to his dictator-like behavior? A few protests, but no serious inquiries or investigations (save one) into his unlawful behavior. The public has been amazingly silent. The two people who have caused him the most political damage: Cindy Sheehan (who survived a terrible swift-boating attempt, but they are still trying) and ironically, Ashcroft and Comey who appointed Patrick Fitzgerald as an independent prosecutor with the power equal to the Attorney General (i.e. he can't be fired).

- Probably the most egregious actions by this administration has been the dismantling of our national defense. This is one of the biggest changes that has slipped under the radar without notice until Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. An administration who appears completely hawkish would seem to want to build the military up to its greatest strengths and be the most daunting, powerful military on the history of the planet. This would seem to be unquestionably true, especially given the attacks on the U.S. on 9/11. However, what has really happened has the dismantling of our defense that will be replaced primarily by Private Military Corporations that Bush can control. Don't believe it? Here are some facts:
* The Reserve Forces ARE DEPLETED. We have no reservists remaining to fight wars with. This number was exhausted in 2004. This is why the military started calling up soldiers (retired, civilians) in the Ready Reserve back in 2004.
* The National Guard in many states ARE DEPLETED. These soldiers who signed up for NATIONAL DEFENSE, have been abused and forced to serve MULTIPLE TOURS in Iraq, a war that has NOTHING TO DO WITH DEFENSE of this nation. This point was made painfully apparent in the Katrina response... the Louisiana N.G. could not handle the response because the majority of them were either over in Iraq, wounded disabled or dead.
* The improper equipping of our troops has caused an unnecessarily LARGE NUMBER OF CASUALTIES, further depleting the capabilities of our troops.
* The Military has been UNABLE TO FULFILL its recruiting needs since 2003.
* Money allocated to our soldiers has been redirected (ILLEGALLY) toward military contractors.
* The severing of the head of our military (firing of generals like General Shinsheki) in order to get a "YES-MAN" mentality going... the military chiefs will no longer question the desired actions of the president, even if it means disaster
* Defense programs like the missile shield, while properly funded, have lacked CRITICAL OVERSIGHT, and so they have wasted BILLIONS of taxpayer money for inadequate defense.
* Mismanagement, and I would say INTENTIONAL mismanagement, of Defense Programs such as FEMA. Astronomical (and unknown) amounts of money flowed into Homeland Security to secure our homeland. FEMA, being part of the new H.S. Department, has shown just how badly that money has been abused. Complete lack of management by CRONIES who are managing VAST AMOUNTS of taxpayer money. Many in the GOP and Administration have talked in the past of dismantling such programs... is it any surprise that they have succeeded while robbing the treasury? This was all laid bare in Katrina. What has been done in response to this?
* The lack of execution to secure our borders and ports, control illegal immigration, protect our Nuclear and Chemical Facilities and to aid in the protection of those cities with highest need is a clear demonstration that Bush wants our national defense to fail so people will no longer trust the ability of our military or defense departments to protect us. The mass cry-out will be to cut spending instead of the proper solution which is removal of the administration and proper oversight. Bush will be one step away from privatizing the military.

- Using Abramoff, he controlled own members of his party who might object to his unlawful behavior and side with the opposition against him to actually block the movement and direction of our government toward a dictatorship. Those who are involved have money and promises of power, be sure. They are tightly controlling the weaker members of their party through money and blackmail. This is now coming to light.

- The Patriot Act 2 will silence opposition completely and finally complete the removal of several fundamental civil rights. If this law is passed, this will be one of the keystones by which Bush becomes dictator.

- The current tracking of personal information by our government, domestic spying and warehousing of communications, financial transactions, purchasing patterns, a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, will be used against those who might appear to HAVE THOUGHTS about speaking out against the administration. Preemptive silencing will occur. Individuals will be made into examples (the M.O. of the Bush administration).

- The use of controllable e-Voting and voter disenfranchisement will ensure that those the Bush administration controls, REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, will obtain the seats to the Congress in 2006, locking in the final steps required to coronate Bush as King.

- The expansion of presidential power has gone unchallenged. Until those he controls are no longer in a position to block serious challenges and impeachment, he will continue to expand his power. To further secure his position, just in case 2006 elections do not go as he plans, he has instilled a Chief Justice and an Associate Justice on the supreme court who will support his claims to expanded executive power.

- The administration continues to use fear as a way to control the public. They make slanderous, libel statements such as "Democrats want to provide therapy to the terrorists", "Democratic criticism is aiding and giving comfort (treason) to the enemy", and finally "Democrat talking points are terrorist messages". They make claims that Democrats in power will lead to a terrorist attack (which is actually a threat by the administration). The administration is the real terrorist organization: by definition, controlling the public through fear IS TERRORISM.

The question has been raised before, that Bush may try to stay president for a third term. Many have dismissed it due to the un-Constitutional aspects of it. But when has that stopped this administration? Is anyone in his own party going to stop him? If you think so, you missed a couple of points above. Bush has a tight leash on the Congress. He is power-crazy, and he's proved that. He is actively expanding the powers of the presidency and he is going unchallenged for doing so. Bush is on record at least 6 times as saying that the U.S. would be much better as a dictatorship (so long as he is the dictator). Does anyone really think Bush would be installing all this power into the executive branch and then let someone else, let alone a Democrat, take control? Hell no, he intends to play for keeps. And so far, he's way ahead of the public, who is still drowsy from 9/11 and won't be able to wake up until it is far too late.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
54. I think we should egg this on.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:17 AM
Nov 2012

Time to start a petition to remove that amendment.


5 more years .... 5 more years.

Cha

(297,250 posts)
57. Yeah, Obama this Obama that.. it does never stop from both Ends
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:58 AM
Nov 2012

the spectrum. That's how they earn their money.. Perpetual Whining about the President.

F***! What if this country just dealt in FACTS? What a world that would be.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
61. I believe in free speech and all of that, but what if when broadcasting to
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:11 AM
Nov 2012

large numbers of people on clearly a large-scale public media one had to deal in FACTS?

That said, I don't know how it would all work, but so often the media in this country is filled with lies and distortions so as to feed their money machine.

I am so fed up with hearing blatant lies and distortions trying to brainwash the country, and while we recognize it as propaganda many will not ... I also think some of these outfits get broadcasting licenses far too easily.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
62. It would certainly mix the pot up! Maybe we can get so many running it spins their heads off trying
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:14 AM
Nov 2012

to spin their webs of lies, misinformation and deception.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
59. Oh, hell,
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nov 2012

there were people ON THIS BOARD claiming Bush would establish Marshal Law and TAKE a third term. Quite adamant about it, iirc. The disillusioned are everywhere.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
63. I wasn't on here then, but I sure recall well wondering just how far Bush was
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:17 AM
Nov 2012

going to take his regime. ... and how he had a blank check it seemed to do anything he wanted.

I recall wondering when the financial meltdown started if he would declare martial law and somehow stay on as commander and chief (based on his national security he used all of the time) ... because of the financial crisis and the wars he started.


Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
66. Part of the ridiculous text:
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nov 2012
Although I'm writing this letter before the 2012 election, I already know Obama will be re-elected to a second term. I'm certain he, or at least his proxy, will also be re-elected again in 2016, for a nearly unprecedented third term.

Using vast new powers, I believe Obama will:
Greatly increase the size of the Fed's quantitative easing, leading to massive increases to inflation.
Seize control of the entire 401k retirement system, forcing Americans to buy more of our government's risky debt.
Implement vast new taxes across our economy, as they have already done with the health care program and which they will do next by implementing a national sales tax.
Continue to expand the welfare rolls by record amounts, buying still more votes, more power and setting the stage for a third Obama term (something I'll explain in this letter.)
Reshape our foreign policy, drawing America into partnerships with dictators and socialists around the world.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
67. Amazing, isn't it ... and I do bet there are some buying this entire
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:19 AM
Nov 2012

spew up as the gospel truth.

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