Do you really want to cut taxes? How about my tips?

[Dragonbreathp9d]

I love the service industry and am a socialist so have no problem paying taxes- I believe in a perfect world they would go towards the greater good. However- I believe taxing tips is asanine- if candidates really want to cut unnecessary taxes start with waitstaff/bartender tips. First off we will put it right back into the economy- it would be a stimulus

[Dragonbreathp9d]

1. Blackout kick

[Kellerfeller]

2. Or my salary

I'll put it right back into the economy too!

Seriously though, why should any income be exempt? Should fees for speaking engagements be exempt as well?

[YellowRubberDuckie]

3. I've never met anyone who claimed all of their cash tips...

[Dragonbreathp9d]

4. I work at places that require you to-

Tip share which is recorded

[YellowRubberDuckie]

15. Tip share is ridiculous on so many levels.

Totally negates the working hard aspect and allows others who are lazy to make the same as those who bust their asses.
Duckie

[Maine-ah]

17. my summer job, we tip share

and for those that didn't pull their weight were basically called out in front of other staff members. Their laziness didn't last long, and if they didn't like being called out they would quit. We were making a ton of money, there was no reason not to pull your own weight at $300 a shift.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

20. +1

[MattBaggins]

18. so you are saying the bus boys are lazy

[YellowRubberDuckie]

23. No. The bar and bus boy tip share I get.

It's the ones where the waitresses share the tips that bothers me. I have cousins who wait tables in a place that shares tips. My mom finds ways to give them money without them even knowing about it so they don't get into trouble. She always gives them good discounts at her store. They work hard, other girls don't, but they get the same. It isn't fair.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

19. I actually like it for the most part-

Lazy people tend not to last long on 6th and when you serve 3000 people a night it expedites things quite well

[Dragonbreathp9d]

5. And about 95% of people use credit/debt cards

I have gone whole days without any cash payments

[YellowRubberDuckie]

16. I work in the business back in the day before that.

And got mostly cash.

[LiberalFighter]

22. If I recall the IRS (Congress) changed the rules on tip reporting

They impute the tips and up to the tax filer to dispute. Probably difficult to dispute.

[Luminous Animal]

6. You have got to be kidding me. What makes your tips any less taxable

than my salary.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

7. Manor in which provided

I have no garuntee of this money whatsoever

[Luminous Animal]

12. 95% of your tips are reported as income (as you said downthread)

So, you are taxed on 95% of your reported tipped income and 100% of your wage income.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

8. And my main point was

Im OK, even HAPPY to pay taxes- but with the right shouting about tax cuts- I've never even heard one person say anything about tips. About helping those that make 2.13 an hour

[Luminous Animal]

14. Maybe you should be fighting for service workers to get a living wage...

In San Francisco the minimum wage is $10 an hour.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

21. I am actually and benefits

See "mandatory meeting". Trying to start a service industry union down here that the Austin afl-CIO has expressed interest in

[Major Nikon]

9. I believe that all income should be taxed progressively

By all income, I mean exactly that. Tips, salary, wages, investment income, church income, all of it.

Tax people who can afford it the most, the rest get a discount on their rate depending on how much they make. FICA counts towards the rate you pay. Nothing other than income gets taxed, whether it's at the federal, state, or local level.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

10. +1- I did say I agree with taxation

My problem is that if taxes are going to be cut fuck the 1% talk about tips

[Remember Me]

11. Heyk there ya go. I vote for that!!

[Motown_Johnny]

13. Most tips are cash and are never reported anyways

I know that credit card sales are used to estimate tips and I think they only use 7% of the credit card sales as that estimate.


I would rather see waitstaff and bartenders get better benefits, they tend to suck.