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Celerity

(48,680 posts)
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 05:43 PM Sep 2023

Trump's Plans for a Second Term Are So Bad That They Almost Make the First One Look Good



Given how the first one went, you can probably guess why that's a bad thing.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/donald-trump-second-term-plans

https://archive.ph/sRxYL



In a reasonable society, an ex-president who's been indicted a whopping four times on a total of 91 felony counts—with charges ranging from obstruction of justice to conspiracy to defraud the United States—would not have a snowball's chance in hell of ever being president again. It simply would not be a thing, full stop. You try to overturn the results of a free and fair election, or ask state officials things like “Just say that the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me,” and you don’t get to be president again!

Obviously, though, we very much do not live in a reasonable society; we live in one in which Donald Trump is beating the next closest contender for the GOP nomination by a logic-defying 43 points. And one in which a guy who allegedly stored classified government documents next to the toilet—right there, where experts say they were potentially getting sprayed with shit particles!—and allegedly tried to “delete” Mar-a-Lago security camera footage requested by the Justice Department, is edging out the guy who did neither of those things in a general election matchup.

All of this means that Donald Trump has significantly better than a snowball’s chance in hell of getting reelected, and anyone who lived through his first term knows why that’s a legitimately terrifying prospect. But, of course, a second term for Trump wouldn’t be simply a repeat of the last time around when it comes to how many times a day you’d find yourself asking, “Oh, God what did he do now?" No, a second term for Trump would be so, so much worse. The following is just a small sampling of why:

Career civil servants are out, die-hard loyalists are in

Shortly before the 2020 election, Trump signed an executive order known as Schedule F, allowing his administration to gut employment protections for thousands of career federal employees whose jobs—which range from making sure the air is clean to ensuring food and drugs are safe—are not supposed to be subject to the whims of whomever is in the White House at the time. Stripped of such protections, the move would have given Trump the power to fire whoever he wanted, and replace them with individuals whose chief qualifications were unflagging loyalty. Trump, of course, was not able to stick around to see this plan out, and after Joe Biden was inaugurated, he canceled Trump’s executive order. But, with a possible second term on the horizon, Trump and his allies have made it clearer than ever that they would pick up exactly where they left off.

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Trump's Plans for a Second Term Are So Bad That They Almost Make the First One Look Good (Original Post) Celerity Sep 2023 OP
There's no guessing needed tirebiter Sep 2023 #1
It's horrible, but some apparently want to live in a sea of chaos. It would likely lead to the RKP5637 Sep 2023 #2
And the insane, deranged madman is still perfectly normal according to the fucking M$M Blue Owl Sep 2023 #3
We aren't out of the woods even if he loses. NYC Liberal Sep 2023 #4
At least 5 million of them will be dead by the election. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #7
74,223,975 voted for Trump in 2020 Celerity Sep 2023 #8
Yeah you're right. It was even worse. NYC Liberal Sep 2023 #11
How do we get out of this without slightlv Sep 2023 #5
He will appoint rapists, racists, felonists, ........ LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #6
It will the house revenge and spite Javaman Sep 2023 #9
Revenge, patronage, greed, power, traitor... all self-serving. With eager toadies. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #10

tirebiter

(2,619 posts)
1. There's no guessing needed
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 05:53 PM
Sep 2023

We barely skipped by fascism the first time. Barring a military counter coup the second time a fascist coup would be inevitable. We can still settle this peaceably by not re-electing Trump.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. It's horrible, but some apparently want to live in a sea of chaos. It would likely lead to the
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 06:01 PM
Sep 2023

complete collapse of the US, something Trump's dictator friends would love. Trump, is a perpetual nightmare that never ends.

NYC Liberal

(20,398 posts)
4. We aren't out of the woods even if he loses.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 06:12 PM
Sep 2023

65 million people voted for him in 2020. He actually got more votes the second time than he did in 2016, even after everything he did, which should terrify any sane person.

Those Trump voters aren’t going to just disappear into the ether if he loses or goes to prison or dies. They will move on to someone who is just as crazy. But the “next Trump” will be smarter and slicker, and much harder to beat. Think of Nixon and Reagan. Nixon was nuts and, like Trump, a criminal. He went down in flames. Then the Republicans ran Reagan…who was just as evil but wrapped in a much nicer package. Fascism cloaked in a professional actor who looked and sounded like your lovely old grandpa. And we know how that turned out.

NYC Liberal

(20,398 posts)
11. Yeah you're right. It was even worse.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 11:37 PM
Sep 2023

I think I was thinking of Hillary's vote from 2016.

Javaman

(63,452 posts)
9. It will the house revenge and spite
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 06:54 PM
Sep 2023

If he’s, help us all, re-elected

4 years(and probably longer because, you know, fascism) of nothing getting done other than destroying democracy

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
10. Revenge, patronage, greed, power, traitor... all self-serving. With eager toadies.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:02 PM
Sep 2023

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Trump never wanted to lead or govern. He wants to rule.

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