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Demovictory9

(32,479 posts)
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:33 PM Oct 2023

The South Dakota 6: Teenage baseball team players. They said it was hazing. Prosecutor says rape



The South Dakota 6: Teenage baseball team players, aged 17 to 19, are charged in connection with the rapes of two minors - including one male - and face upwards of 50 years in prison
Six teens from the Mitchell High School baseball team are accused of rape after they attended a baseball tournament in June
They face Class 1 felony charges, each punishable by up to 50 years in prison
All six defendants pleaded 'not guilty' during their first court appearance

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Six South Dakota baseball players aged 17 to 19 have been charged in connection with the rape of two minors - with one of their victims identified as a male.

Lincoln Bates, 18, Hudson Haley, 18, Carter Miller, 18, Landon Waddell, 19, Peyton Mandel, 17, and Karter Sibson, 17 are all accused of the sex assaults while participating in a tournament between June 1 and 4.

All six are charged with second-degree rape and aiding and abetting second-degree rape.

Haley faces an extra rape charge for a second victim, while Waddell was charged with two counts of aiding and abetting for a second victim.

Both victims were 16 at the time. The gender of the second victim is unknown.

The circumstances of the assault were initially framed as a 'team hazing ritual', but Pennington County State's Attorney Lara Roetzel rejected the notion, instead calling it a 'forcible assault.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12597933/Six-teenage-South-Dakota-baseball-team-players-aged-17-19-charged-raping-minor-two-face-150-years-prison-Mitchell-High-School-pulls-Legions-team.html
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The South Dakota 6: Teenage baseball team players. They said it was hazing. Prosecutor says rape (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2023 OP
Hazing is less frequent now but still occurs. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #1
It doesn't matter if it was hazing or not mercuryblues Oct 2023 #2
Absolutely. Delphinus Oct 2023 #3
Also while I know reporting edisdead Oct 2023 #6
Sorry that you were assaulted Marthe48 Oct 2023 #9
Horrifying. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #4
Criminal mentality starts with the adults in charge. MerryBlooms Oct 2023 #5
Wait. edisdead Oct 2023 #7
Read the article. Yes, there are adults who knew and didn't report! MerryBlooms Oct 2023 #8
Geez that article is a nightmare to read edisdead Oct 2023 #10
You know, given the state of English grammar, Igel Oct 2023 #12
Aiding and abetting criminal sexual conduct. roamer65 Oct 2023 #11

Elessar Zappa

(14,084 posts)
1. Hazing is less frequent now but still occurs.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 05:37 PM
Oct 2023

Coaches need to make clear that there will be no tolerance for any type of hazing and that police will be called. I was hazed in track years ago (they stuck my head down a toilet, a “swirlie”) and while I wasn’t sexually assaulted, I was terrified of the older kids the rest of the year.

edisdead

(1,958 posts)
6. Also while I know reporting
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 06:55 PM
Oct 2023

Also while I know reporting the gebder of the victim is just giving the facts, something about the way it was presented made me think “it doesn’t matter rape is rape”.

MerryBlooms

(11,773 posts)
5. Criminal mentality starts with the adults in charge.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 06:48 PM
Oct 2023

Charge the adults who didn't report. The only way these crimes stop is if coaches and guardians are All prosecuted. Go back into the history of the teams, this isn't the first time, No Way.

edisdead

(1,958 posts)
10. Geez that article is a nightmare to read
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 07:06 PM
Oct 2023

The formatting of that is awful.

Yeah says there may be other adults that knew. Wonder if they were coaches. It didn’t say.

Igel

(35,362 posts)
12. You know, given the state of English grammar,
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 08:46 PM
Oct 2023

"The Pennington County State's Attorney's Office reiterated that additional charges may be on the horizon for adults associated with the team who had knowledge of and failed to report the crimes" is a bit iffy.

If they knew, there'd be no question. That there's a question lets the question dribble on down to, "Did they know?"

Key word: "May." Entirely equivalent to "it says it's possible nobody else knew." In which case, the pandit would say, "I'm surprised nobody else knew." "Wonder if they were coaches" and "I'm surprised" at this stage are equally likely, assuming nothing else.

Ivan IV's letters have the same grammatical weirdness in Russian--hard to read, on many accounts, there you go. The culture and literary language, in flux, left open exactly what a not-fully-literate (in the official language) potentate (like we've never experienced dat) mean actually meant. I had a paper to write that explored what the grammatical breakdown meant and what the regularities were in order to write a "grammar" of Ivan IV's Russian, but early on I realized that uncertainty about what the "norms" were as the norms shifted or were in flux accounted for things adequately for the apparent randomness. Over a decade or more, the changes *were* random. I couldn't say that--it violated the prof's required assumptions from the 1950s--so the grade lapsed from I to F. (Thanks, [ din ]). (I'm a Slavist teaching AP HS science. WTH?)

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
11. Aiding and abetting criminal sexual conduct.
Thu Oct 5, 2023, 07:09 PM
Oct 2023

They need to be charged, just as Gym Jordan should be as well.

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