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Astraea

(471 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:11 PM Nov 2012

What is with the people making Obama-Hitler comparisons?

So I was out at the grocery store today and overheard two old men talking. One of them says something about 'all the similarities between Obama and Hitler', such as 'how Hitler went after young people'. I can only assume he was talking about the Hitler Youth, and how somehow there's a correlation between that and how young people voted for President Obama.

That was all I heard, but apparently this guy had a bunch of other comparisons.

Has anyone else heard of other talking points that somehow make Obama=Hitler?

Are people just stupid or what?

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What is with the people making Obama-Hitler comparisons? (Original Post) Astraea Nov 2012 OP
I know, how ridiculous hfojvt Nov 2012 #1
... BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #3
Yes, people are really stupid. PDJane Nov 2012 #2
Not really, check out how many times Bush was compared to Hitler sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22
Really stupid in this case. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #32
Except the Bush family did have ties to Hitler. Live and Learn Nov 2012 #33
It's called "projection", in addition to sore-loserism. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #4
Yep, stupid AND racist n/t Spazito Nov 2012 #5
Made by people who can't tell the difference between socialism, communism or fascism. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #6
Psychotic projection SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #7
stupidity wed to malice. cali Nov 2012 #8
It's cynical people playing on other people's ignorance and fear Tobin S. Nov 2012 #9
They aren't what you would call "deep thinkers". bluedigger Nov 2012 #10
Well, see my post above. Bush was constantly compared sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24
Hyperbole isn't a partisan trait. bluedigger Nov 2012 #26
Ignorance, mental illness, hatred, bigotry. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #11
Ahem.... You may want to think twice about your complaint. PavePusher Nov 2012 #12
Rethink your own post Astraea Nov 2012 #18
Quite true, but he still wasn't within orders of magnitude of Hitler. PavePusher Nov 2012 #19
It's nothing but a boggart in a closet. longship Nov 2012 #13
some guy here had an obama-hitler sign newspeak Nov 2012 #14
It's just dimwits reaching out in their bigoted fit over the election AndrewP Nov 2012 #15
Lyndon LaRouche - he's had a poster out for years aletier_v Nov 2012 #16
That poster was essentially adopted by the teabaggers Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #20
Obama=Marx is what I usually hear bhikkhu Nov 2012 #17
The stupidity from people that make that comparison is an insult to human intelligence! PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2012 #21
Hitler had feet! And Obama? You guessed it Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #23
+1 nt. Live and Learn Nov 2012 #34
Some extreme libertarians are very upset by the failure to push the repeal of the Patriot Act, amandabeech Nov 2012 #25
I saw them outside my local post office with a Obama picture with a Hitler mustache former-republican Nov 2012 #27
and that's where i saw it in my home town newspeak Nov 2012 #37
Lack of creativity and lack of world knowledge, I imagine Scootaloo Nov 2012 #28
These people are just the lowest of the low. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #29
It's the LaRouche thing, I think. yewberry Nov 2012 #30
People have been doing it since 1945 JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #31
Well, the hyperbole is getting worse than it's ever been in all of history! Bucky Nov 2012 #40
You probably have a point there. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #41
Just Illiterate, Stupid and repeating stuff they HEAR but don't quite think out... mzteaze Nov 2012 #35
Republicans only believe what they want to... behindenemylins Nov 2012 #36
payback mixed with poison discourse SmileyRose Nov 2012 #38
Yes some of them are weapons grade stupid but yes, there is some "or what" too TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #39
You know who I don't hear doing it? undeterred Nov 2012 #42

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Not really, check out how many times Bush was compared to Hitler
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:01 AM
Nov 2012

also. It's just stupid hyperbole from low information partisans.









I found that one on DU btw.




There were hundreds of them. Not that I don't think there was some truth to the comparisons re Bush

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
33. Except the Bush family did have ties to Hitler.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:43 AM
Nov 2012

And Bush himself declared that if he was a Fuehrer... I mean dictator the job would be easier.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
6. Made by people who can't tell the difference between socialism, communism or fascism.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:23 PM
Nov 2012

all they know is what they hear from Limpballs and beckerhead.
Like the one clown who said "Obama wants to be a Marxist dictator like Hitler"
All I could think of at that point was repeated

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
9. It's cynical people playing on other people's ignorance and fear
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:27 PM
Nov 2012

When you get down to the nuts and bolts of policy, most people are ignorant. I'll admit that I'm not the most savvy when it comes to such things either, but probably more so than your average voter.

People who are ignorant about politics are easily swayed to believe incredible things. Most Tea Party supporters are a case in point. They're working and middle class people for the most part whose interests lie with the Democrats, but look at the crap they believe in. When you don't have much of an idea of what's really going on to begin with, you might be tempted to believe someone who at least sounds like they do instead of investigating the matter for yourself from credible sources.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
10. They aren't what you would call "deep thinkers".
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

Hitler = Bad. Obama = Bad. Hitler = Obama.

That is really as far as it goes in their minds.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. Well, see my post above. Bush was constantly compared
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:09 AM
Nov 2012

to Hitler also.

Hitler = Bad. Bush = Bad. Hitler = Bush.










That was a pretty constant theme from the Left. Bush = Hitler. Just saying, we have short memories and should not put ourselves in the position of being called hypocrites.

Not that I didn't agree that the Bush gang resembled the old nazi regime to an extent!


Astraea

(471 posts)
18. Rethink your own post
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:37 PM
Nov 2012

Bush is in a world of his own. A far right loon vs a middle of the road Democrat. People had far more to be angry about with Mr. Bush.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
19. Quite true, but he still wasn't within orders of magnitude of Hitler.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:48 AM
Nov 2012

Don't excuse bad behavior just because it was from our side.

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. It's nothing but a boggart in a closet.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012

Visualize something humorous, wave your wand, and say the incantation, "Riddikulous!"

These folks deserve only ridicule.

Like Joe Biden did to Paul Ryan in their debate. Joe laughed and laughed and laughed. "Riddikulous!" and Ryan disappeared in a cloud of smoke. He was barely seen on the campaign trail after that. Like a boggart in the closet, he was finished, powerless, only an apparition to laugh at. And ridicule.


newspeak

(4,847 posts)
14. some guy here had an obama-hitler sign
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:06 PM
Nov 2012

it's like WTF? i mean most teabaggers are anti-gay (check), anti-choice (check), anti-any color but white (check), anti-regulation (check). and, it just so happens hitler was against the same things-he loved some of our industrialists and they loved him. some were even pen pals. i'd say our industrialists loved the business they were getting, but some actually loved his intolerant ideology.

obama=hitler? not even close.

Brother Buzz

(36,469 posts)
20. That poster was essentially adopted by the teabaggers
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:57 AM
Nov 2012

That poster and the Gadsden flag were the quintessential props favored by the teabaggers.

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
17. Obama=Marx is what I usually hear
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:28 PM
Nov 2012

...which makes me wonder at the titanic inner struggle that must be taking place between this emerging Obama/Hitler and Obama/Marx. And, just maybe, there is an Obama/Mao waiting in the wings to bedevil the winner!

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
21. The stupidity from people that make that comparison is an insult to human intelligence!
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:04 AM
Nov 2012

I once talked to someone who voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry, but started watching Fox News and voted for McCain and Romney this year. She was going on and on about how radical President Obama is. All I said was "Is Obama doing anything that is ANY different from what Clinton did or Kerry and Gore would have done." (I.E. Stimulus spending, Health care reform, etc). I mentioned that "Obamacare" is actually a watered down, "less radical" version of what Clinton wanted to do to the health care system in 1993. Their response was "I guess you're right"

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
25. Some extreme libertarians are very upset by the failure to push the repeal of the Patriot Act,
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
Nov 2012

by supporting the NDAA, and by using drones to kill enemies, including U.S. citizens outside the U.S.

Those actions make me uneasy, too, but I certainly don't see him as Hitler by any stretch of the imagination. That's just ridiculous.

There are crazies out there, though.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
27. I saw them outside my local post office with a Obama picture with a Hitler mustache
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:19 AM
Nov 2012

They had a table set up with some pamphlets they were handing out.
They were not republicans , I'm not sure what they were.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
37. and that's where i saw it in my home town
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:57 PM
Nov 2012

outside of the post office.

yes, i did make a comparison between little boots and hitler when he was in office. it was not just his family's business dealings with hitler; but using propaganda (lies) for preempting a war. and, his currying right wing religious fervor. the anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-labor, added with extreme nationalism; also the passing of the patriot act. no, little boots didn't send us to camps; however, torturing people and holding them indefinitely goes against international laws we helped create after WWII- there are some disturbing similarities. oh, and the power of business, any business over the will of most of the people.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. Lack of creativity and lack of world knowledge, I imagine
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:20 AM
Nov 2012

I mean there are so many much more interesting dictators to blandly accuse your president of being similar to. Americans think that Hitler was the world's first and last asshole dictator (except for of course, current US presidents,) and can't seem to be fucking bothered to research

What, is it just that "Saparmurat Niyazov" is a hard name to say? If you're ging to pretend you know something about dictatorships, read up! learn enough to answer some trivial pursuit questions or the like. Give Hitler a damn rest; have you tried some Mussolini? or Franco?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
29. These people are just the lowest of the low.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:20 AM
Nov 2012

We have to accept these people will continue to make asses of themselves.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
30. It's the LaRouche thing, I think.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:57 AM
Nov 2012

The Lyndon LaRouche supporters are always out there with posters showing Obama with a Hitler 'stache.

I have to confess that I have to cross the street when I see those folks... my grampa was in one of Hitler's POW camps. He was at Stalag Luft I after the great escape. My grampa was a well-educated, liberal Vermont yankee who voted straight Dem.

If I get too close, I think I might punch one of those ignorant, childish LaRouche boosters in the throat. So I cross the street!

JohnnyRingo

(18,650 posts)
31. People have been doing it since 1945
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:58 AM
Nov 2012

It has become a benchmark, like calling someone the Cadillac of dictators.

Sure, it's hyperbole, but until some leader worse than Hitler comes along, like Dick Cheney, we'll hear it after every election (see how I did that?).

Bucky

(54,084 posts)
40. Well, the hyperbole is getting worse than it's ever been in all of history!
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
Nov 2012

It is literally making my head explode!!

JohnnyRingo

(18,650 posts)
41. You probably have a point there.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

There's this: A former Ron Paul aid who has a RW website called "The Libertarian Republican" (Is there such a thing?) is going on hiatus and handing the reins of his ten cent blog to a friend so he can start a personal revolution. How will he do this? He explains:

The end of liberty in America: Only course of action now is to fight back, electoral politics not working

<snip>

Express your hatred, shame, and outright disgust with anyone you know who voted Democrat

However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.

I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.

Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.

Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot. And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.

Boycott Business who accept Welfare payments

Thirdly, I believe we all need to express disgust with Obama and Democrats in public places. To some extent I already do this. Example:

When I'm at the Wal-mart or grocery story I typically pay with my debit card. On the pad it comes up, "EBT, Debit, Credit, Cash." I make it a point to say loudly to the check-out clerk, "EBT, what is that for?" She inevitably says, "it's government assistance." I respond, "Oh, you mean welfare? Great. I work for a living. I'm paying for my food with my own hard-earned dollars. And other people get their food for free." And I look around with disgust, making sure others in line have heard me.

I am going to step this up. I am going to do far more of this in my life. It's going to be my personal crusade. I hope other libertarians and conservatives will eventually join me.

What I plan to do this week, is to get yard signs made up, at my own expense, that read, "EBT is for Welfare Moochers." I will put the signs out on public property off of the right-of-way so it's entirely legal, in front of every convenience store or grocery store that has a sign out saying "EBT Accepted Here." I may even do some sign waving in front of these stores, holding up my "EBT is for Welfare Moochers," sign, and waving to passers-by.

If I meet a Democrat in my life from here on out, I will shun them immediately. I will spit on the ground in front of them, being careful not to spit in their general direction so that they can't charge me with some stupid little nuisance law. Then I'll tell them in no un-certain terms: "I do not associate with Democrats. You all are communist pigs, and I have nothing but utter disgust for you. Sir/Madam, you are scum of the earth." Then I'll turn and walk the other way.

Buttons. Boy, you can have a lot of fun with this. I plan to make up a bunch of buttons, and wear them around town, sayings like "Democrats are Communist Pigs," or "Welfare moochers steal from hard-working Americans," "Only Nazis support Seat Belt laws" or "No Smoking Ban: Nanny-Staters go Fuck Yourselves."

There are so many other nasty little things I plan to do against the communists and those who support them. Perhaps I'll keep Jim informed and he can report on my activities here at LR.

For now, off to my first assignment: Telling all my friends and family who voted for Obama to "fuck off, don't ever speak to me again you slimeball mother fuckers." Wish me luck!


The rest here:
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html

This man could not possibly hate Hitler more than this.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
35. Just Illiterate, Stupid and repeating stuff they HEAR but don't quite think out...
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:32 AM
Nov 2012

If they are looking for the most deadly dictators, Mao Zedong (estimated 40-70 Million dead) "bests" Hitler (estimated 12M dead) in sheer number of folks who died under his rule. It's not even remotely close.

Gee its hard to figure out where Obama lands between those two as deadly, but I am sure he'll make the top 10 dictators AFTER them right?

Let's not even consider the difference between a president and dictator. But I would love one of these nutjobs to explain how exactly Obama came to power under a typical dictator path (military junta, single-party state, etc.) and then how this happened:

"they change the entire political system to ensure that no one else will remove them from their charge, starting with prohibiting all sorts of opposing organizations or parties, until they eventually cancel free elections or they do held elections but start tampering the results so it appears that it’s the people’s will to remain in power"


That's just surface Wikipedia kinda stuff...but in the words of Obama "Please proceed, governor."

behindenemylins

(41 posts)
36. Republicans only believe what they want to...
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:30 AM
Nov 2012

See it all the time. Ronald Reagan saved the world from annihilation from Soviets, Martians and Eskimos...while Bill Clinton set Bush up to invade Iraq.

Yes, yes...they spout this stuff amongst themselves and do it with a smile on their faces. Come to Ohio. You'll run into many people that fucked up, plus more.

Meanwhile, with all their big family values, you'll find most of them are working on their third marriages. No offense to anybody who's been married more than once, but understand what I'm referring to is coming from typical Republicans - living in glass houses while throwing stones.

See the You Tube video of Ohio Romney Rally on NewLeftMedia's channel. It's no joke. Also contains Meat Loaf's drunken wail fest.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
39. Yes some of them are weapons grade stupid but yes, there is some "or what" too
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

I've got a friend who is on issue after issue, is American far left but is convinced through some perspective distortion that he is a right winger, and pretty deeply so. He thinks the Heritage Foundation is a liberal organization and that Obama is a Communist, slowed down by systemic resistance. Wants better safety nets. Better wages. More value and power for labor. Environmental regulation. Supports gay marriage. Doesn't want to be in the same room with the stuff but favors legal recreational marijuana. Money out of politics guy. Approaching anti-corporate. Pro gun control (which, I consider authoritarian and therefore rightist but most don't seem to see it that way).

Then again, he is pro empire do to a faith in American exceptionalism, though granting that will not always be the case and may already have already fallen from such a place. Reflexively anti-communist.

Goes and votes for Weird WiLIARd like a motherfucker. Far from stupid, understands very complex situations. Very well read. Distorted plumb out of reality at least in part by strange mislabeling, conpiracyish stuff, a lack of of breadth and depth of political dialog available beyond the individual level that limits thought and the terms to wade through, and poor grasp of the few label to act as anchor points to work through this stuff in present context.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
42. You know who I don't hear doing it?
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:09 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone who is actually old enough to remember Adolph Hitler and what he did. Someone for whom it is more than a name doesn't throw a reference to Hitler around lightly.

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