Very Interesting -- Obama Still Did Not Win The Senior Vote From What I Hear.

[TheMastersNemesis]

Does that mean that seniors supported privatization and cuts to their own care? They hated Obama that much?

[coalition_unwilling]

1. Anyone older than 55 would not have been affected by any cuts, so I think it

was a case of "Fuck them, I've got mine" mixed with "He's a n****r."

[EC]

8. It wouldn't end up like that

the fund for the existing medicare people would have run dry because the young wouldn't be paying into it anymore.

[doc03]

22. +1 You hit the nail on the head.

[Fridays Child]

2. Where did you hear that?

Any links?

[bluestate10]

4. 55-44 for Romney, 1% for others. nt

[BainsBane]

17. Check any site with exit polls

Like NYT or Huffington Post, CNN, etc. . .

[elleng]

3. Wonder about your source, but if true, sounds like such 'Seniors' succumbed to propaganda.

This one didn't.

[meow2u3]

13. Many seniors have lost their BS detectors

and are more susceptible to propaganda and/or con jobs. They often become more trusting of untrustworthy persons the older they get.

Look at all the scams designed to separate seniors from their money. It sometimes takes a younger person to protect their elders from swindlers. Think about it.

Which means this: we have to reach seniors with a kind of campaign designed to reeducate them on how to resist a hustle from right-wing con artists.

[Change has come]

5. No, it means they support privitization and cuts to their own offspring's care.

[truedelphi]

6. If a person's over fifty years old, and they have been laid off from a job,

And due to how much it will cost the employer to put them on the company payroll, what with the insurance premiums being sky high, so they can't get re-employed, anywhere, well, of course they' re mad.

At least twelve million people who voted in 2008 didn't bother to vote this time around.

[Hestia]

28. Isn't that about the same number who lost their homes? Sad...

[still_one]

7. I would like to see the breakdown. A senior in a red state , but I would be skeptical about a señor

[bkkyosemite]

9. Both my husband and I voted for Obama and we are 66 and 77

[luv_mykatz]

10. I voted for Obama...

and I am 58. No swallower of corporate owned media swill here. I know they are liars. I figured that out when Ronnie Raygun was elected as President in 1980. I have never, EVER voted for a repuke, not in all the 40 years that I have been eligible to vote. The repukes and everything they stand for a totally repugnant to me.

[LeFleur1]

11. Only Voted Republican Once

....and that was for Eisenhower. Two seniors here voted for Obama and encouraged others to do so, too.
Republicans of today are intolerable in government...or anywhere else for that matter.

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

12. Obama and Senior Citizens

I once listened to an old family friend, a BIG right-winger, talk about people who get assistance from the government and how bad "socialized medicine" is. Minutes later, he was talking about how he didn't have to worry because his medical treatment was taken care of and covered by the VA...

There is a BIG double standard between many older folks who vote Republican.

[BainsBane]

18. So true

Most of those complaining about entitlements are on Social Security. I don't understand that sort of cognitive dissonance.

[nruthie]

14. Please don't lump us all together.

I'm a 70-year old woman and a long-time Obama supporter. Many of my senior friends are also supporters. Please don't automatically assume that all of us old white people are rabid Republicans! We're not all angry old malcontents; it just sometimes seems that way.

[hrmjustin]

15. Welcome to DU! Great to have you aboard.

[nruthie]

16. Thanks....

I'm sure I'll be spouting off on a regular basis from now on. This is where I get all the news that's fit to read.

[sarge43]

31. Thank you nruthie and welcome to DU

Same here. I don't understand those seniors. We would be among the first thrown off the boat. Further, most of them have children and grandchildren; don't they want a decent, secure future for their descendants?

[Jennicut]

19. Not just seniors. Obama won voters 18 to 44 and lost voters 45 and older.

He did the worst among seniors and the best among the youngest voters.


Generational differences I suppose. But not terrible among 45 to 64 and 65 and older.

[progree]

34. Actually, within each race, there was little difference by age (excepting a modest difference with

Hispanics)

http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls

In vote by age, there are shown 6 brackets and consistently the Obama % goes down as age goes up.

HOWEVER, when one looks at race-age combinations:

there's virtually no decline in Obama support among whites as age goes up,

ditto for blacks,

and only about a 9 percentage decline in support for Obama amongst Latinos from youngest to oldest.

In short, looking at the U.S. electorate overall, support for Obama goes down as age goes up because the proportion of whites goes up with age.

[doc03]

20. It means the selfish bastards don't care if they cut SS and Medicare

for people under 55 as long as they get theirs. I actually heard many of them say that. The lie about Obama cutting Medicare by $716 billon also carried a lot of weight.

[scarletlib]

38. Please don't lump us all into the same category.

Both my husband and I are seniors. We are 100% democratic and we along with our entire family voted for Obama both times.

I have real concerns for both my children and grandchildren's future. I don't want to see their benefits cut. I want them to have everything that I am entitled to as citizen and more if possible. It is a good thing if I as a senior can be less of financial burden to my children as I age because of programs like Social Security and Medicare. This holds true for the following generations as well.

I do care deeply about the upcoming generations and I believe many of us do so as well.

[doc03]

42. Me too I started SS at 62 and will go on

Medicare next April. But I have heard some seniors actually say it's only for the people under 55. A good many seniors also bought into the line that Obama raided $716 billion from medicare to fund Obamacare. They hammered on that lie since 2010, that's why you see most of the teabaggers are seniors I think.

[yashoo]

21. My grandparents are Democrats who have voted for Democratic Presidents my entire life...

...until these last two elections. Because they won't vote for a black guy. They'll be back in the fold in 2016. Sad but true and I know they aren't alone.

They hate all of Romney's policies, re: Medicare, Social Security, etc. And it didn't matter.

[shanti]

23. my 80 year old mother LOVES obama

she lives in arizona and is surrounded by wingers, but doesn't care what anyone thinks. she's never voted repub in her life.

[cali]

33. My mother is 94. Strong Obama supporter

she lives in New Canaan, CT which went 3-1 for Romney. 3 time delegate to the DNC. LIfe long dem. And yes, the battle axe has all her marbles.

[msanthrope]

24. Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt

[Lugnut]

25. Not this senior!

I'm 67 and my husband is 69 and we voted for the Prez. Our neighbors who are in their 70s did too.

[hrmjustin]

26. MY parents are seniors and they voted Obama.

[sabrina 1]

27. No more likely they stayed home after Obama made it

known he was willing to put SS on the table. Fortunately the extremists on the Right refused his offer as they wanted even more for the wealthy. I know a lot of older people, life time Democrats, who were furious with him over that. They would not vote Republican, but I can see them staying home in disgust.

Dems better not even think of putting SS on the Deficit table, they need to remove it right now from any discussion of the Deficit. Or that will have a serious and devastating effect on the Dem Party.

[DesertFlower]

29. i'm71 and have been a lifetime democrat.

[SheilaT]

30. I'm 64. I voted for Obama this year and four years ago.

I'm still working, part time. Next year I'll be on Medicare, sort of. I work for a company large enough that Medicare will be the second payer.

We seniors are not all alike, just as you young'uns are not all alike. I've been a Democrat my whole life, and the older I get, the more liberal I get. I have friends my age and a little older who are easily as left-wing as I am. Trust me, every time they say that Social Security or Medicare is safe for us old folks, I don't believe them.

[scarletlib]

39. I am like you.

I have gotten more liberal as I have grown older. I would never vote for a Republican under any circumstances at this point in my life. I am hoping that I live to see a female president and a Congress with 50% or more women, an end to our military adventurism, truly universal health care, work places that support humans rather than oppress them ,a living wage for everyone who works, free high quality education for all of our children, a truly green energy system and everyone working to offset global climate change.

Did I leave anything out?

[Fumesucker]

32. So should they vote for the guy that put SS and Medicare cuts on the table?

Or should they vote for the ones who turned down the offer?

These old people are easily confused and keeping track of the eleventy dimensional chess game is beyond a lot of them.

[bowens43]

35. racism is more prevalent in the elderly...

[madokie]

37. Yes, many of the old men and women I know hate him that much

He's black and they can't be having a person of color being a President or, *if he steals his way in as Obama did, then they're all for doing whatever it takes to make him look bad. They cannot have a repeat of this other than old white man in the Oval Office.

*That is what many of the older generation I know think.

I'm an old mostly white male for the record.

[dawnie51]

40. I am nearly 62...

and was lucky to be in a position to retire. I love PBO, voted for him twice, and am hoping he stands absolutely rigid on SS and Medicare. I got mine, after 30 years working for the VA, and I am grateful; but I have a daughter, and a son, and a son in law and two grandchildren. I want them to have the chance to retire too. No one should have to work until they drop dead. So if some wretched baby boomer offends you, remember, for everyone of these jerks you hear spouting Rethug talking points, there are many more of us out here who get it, and who want those who come after us to benefit too. How anyone who loves their children and their grandchildren, and the friends of those loved ones, can feel any other way is just an indication of stupidity.

[GeorgeGist]

41. Old people frighten easily.

cf. John McCain.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

43. DU is not a statistically meaningful site

I'd guess that most seniors on DU (including me) likely voted for the Democratic candidate. Possibly even voted the straight Democratic ticket, thus saving the effort of punching many chads.

I could tell you that I'm over 65 and voted for Obama. This is true, but what's that got to do with the general population?

By limiting the impact of SS and medicare damage to younger (under 55?) people, Republicans assure that there's not a huge backlash among the more-white-haired seniors, who remember a day when Republicans were decent people. Ike wasn't all bad.

I know a few seniors who get full health benefits as part of retirement, or highly subsidized insurance like the military's TriCare, yet claim to desire smaller less-intrusive government. The irony floats by unnoticed.

[retread]

44. Would like to see the age distribution broken down by region.

[kydo]

45. Not surpised 50% of the senior vote is Angry OLD WHITE MEN

thats all thats left of the GOP old white males that are angry.

[eridani]

46. Old Repuke culture warriors don't give a flying fuck about people under 55

These are the people who will be screwed by cuts in SocSec and raising Medicare eligibility age.