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Coventina

(29,734 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:09 PM Nov 2023

A Delta crew member threatened to remove a passenger who repeatedly tried to sing her new gospel song on the flight

A Grammy-nominated singer was nearly booted from a Delta Air Lines flight after continually attempting to sing her newly released song.

The passenger, Bobbi Storm, took to Instagram on Saturday to share a video of the altercation between her and a Delta crew member. In the video, Storm walked up the aisle before being told to sit back down.

The video showed her taking her seat and turning to the people around her to tell them she had just found out she was "up for two Grammys" and had released a new single titled "We Can't Forget Him."

The Daily Mail reported that Storm was a featured vocalist on Maverick City Music's latest Grammy-nominated album, "The Maverick Way Complete." The band is a Christian singing group nominated for best gospel album and best contemporary Christian music performance/song.

https://www.insider.com/delta-employee-threatened-remove-grammy-nominated-passenger-wouldnt-stop-singing-2023-11

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I'm with the airline employee on this one. I don't want to be subjected to a concert I didn't ask for. I find air travel stressful enough as it is.

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A Delta crew member threatened to remove a passenger who repeatedly tried to sing her new gospel song on the flight (Original Post) Coventina Nov 2023 OP
If miss "I'm really important because JAYSUS and I"m up for a Grammy" was sitting next Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #1
This is sort of like those to proselytize to captive audiences on trains. Some people had long days and want quiet. TheBlackAdder Nov 2023 #68
Exactly. STFU. brush Nov 2023 #176
Same NowISeetheLight Nov 2023 #180
The only thing I hate is when the passengers jimfields33 Nov 2023 #2
I've not experienced that except where we sat on the tarmac waiting to take off for hours OR hlthe2b Nov 2023 #13
It's just stress release. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #17
Ah the wonders MaineNative Nov 2023 #50
And people wonder why I love taking the train Trailrider1951 Nov 2023 #80
I've only been on one flight where that happened, it was Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #25
THIS malaise Nov 2023 #42
I've only experienced passengers clapping on international flights FakeNoose Nov 2023 #105
Guam to Saipan 1993 or 94 Arthur_Frain Nov 2023 #159
Not the same thing, the incident happen in flight and she... brush Nov 2023 #177
Sheesh, let her sing Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #3
hell no! NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #5
Singing is a hellova lot better than barking Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #12
Never flown on a flight with multiple babies crying continually? Much worse, though I have sympathy hlthe2b Nov 2023 #18
Let everyone sing! Give each passenger 5 minutes during flight to stand and sing! Midnight Writer Nov 2023 #7
Everyone gets the same 5 minutes to proselytize to Bobbi. keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #16
She was happy and proud Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #20
Never get on a flight with David Lee Roth. Midnight Writer Nov 2023 #22
I would "Jump" if David Lee Roth sang Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #29
she just wanted to do her praise Jesus stuff. arrogant. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #23
Plus, very annoying to plug a new album with a song in front of a captive audience. Attilatheblond Nov 2023 #63
Or make them go outside and sing. GoneOffShore Nov 2023 #104
She's a noxious religious martyr selling a product. I don't want Kirby vacuum demos Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #24
What about Electrolux? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #44
So what? I prefer the singing of raspy voiced old guys and gals Merlot Nov 2023 #30
Who listens to the words in a song if it sounds good? How about "Halelujah"? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #34
I'm chiming in here, because this comment is ridiculous ms liberty Nov 2023 #150
I do. Bad lyrics can ruin a song for me. N/T LisaM Nov 2023 #155
And Winchester Cathedral won Best Pop Recording ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #139
She didn't win a Grammy MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #144
Not only that.... TheRealNorth Nov 2023 #43
Airplane karaoke! The horror, the horror... Ocelot II Nov 2023 #66
That's fine. But as soon as she opens her stupid mouth to sing, everyone else Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #14
I think it's unlikely she was going to stop after five minutes. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #19
Heck, ever sing in the shower? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #26
No, I think she was probably going to sign other songs. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #36
I think she'd keep singing and not shut up for the entire flight Clash City Rocker Nov 2023 #62
Nope - and if I did I don't subject anyone to it, just me NewHendoLib Nov 2023 #91
most showers aren't as long as a plane flight. Conjuay Nov 2023 #141
Who cares? To do it at all is disrespectful. edisdead Nov 2023 #163
It would be more acceptable if it wasn't religious. pandr32 Nov 2023 #35
Not really. Airplanes are transportation, not concerts, Ocelot II Nov 2023 #60
I do agree. pandr32 Nov 2023 #132
You dont have to be an atheist to find that assumption obnoxious. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #75
That goes to my point. pandr32 Nov 2023 #133
Cool. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #138
You can practically tell what type of Christian someone is by the political party they identify with. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2023 #151
That does seem so. pandr32 Nov 2023 #168
Only marginally. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #165
Yes, it would hurt obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #40
And so I assume it's okay for every passenger to "entertain" pinkstarburst Nov 2023 #55
Yes... progressoid Nov 2023 #57
I unironically love this song Sympthsical Nov 2023 #160
Sounds like Baby Shark to me (in repetitive annoyance production). Nt spooky3 Nov 2023 #166
I can listen to about 10 seconds but then have turn it off for fear of a permanent earworm infection. progressoid Nov 2023 #178
The flight attendant told her to stop and she argued back Demovictory9 Nov 2023 #76
This is the point that some in this thread are missing JoseBalow Nov 2023 #112
So.. its all good then? quakerboy Nov 2023 #79
No. And I won't say a happy prayer with her either. Scrivener7 Nov 2023 #82
Bobbi? JoseBalow Nov 2023 #115
even a nazi barbershop quartet? toad-eye Nov 2023 #122
YES. Conjuay Nov 2023 #124
Some of us want peace and quiet ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #137
Yeah, no thanks. edisdead Nov 2023 #161
I don't care what the music genre, unless asked, no one should sing on a plane where hlthe2b Nov 2023 #4
well, rfk, but I agree NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #6
Oops, corrected... hlthe2b Nov 2023 #10
She wasn't just singing. She was selling. Croney Nov 2023 #8
Were I there, she would be wearing an emptied out carry on over her head Attilatheblond Nov 2023 #72
Bravo DENVERPOPS Nov 2023 #127
Thanks. Never heard that song. 70sEraVet Nov 2023 #148
This shameless self promotor made those poor airline employee's lives hell RAB910 Nov 2023 #9
Noxious religious martyrdom. "The deepstate is oppressing me!" nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2023 #21
Pretty much, you don't see anyone else walking up and down the aisles singing RAB910 Nov 2023 #28
Billy Idol did it in "The Wedding Singer" Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #32
Please tell me you understand the difference between movies and reality. Coventina Nov 2023 #33
As far as reality is concerned, is it realistic to expect to have a good time on a plane? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #46
How nice for you. 🙄 ShazzieB Nov 2023 #87
I'm with the airline employee as well. n/t KarenS Nov 2023 #11
Sit down and STFU walkingman Nov 2023 #15
I am absolutely with the Delta employee on this. Toss the offender off the plane, whether still on the ground or not. DFW Nov 2023 #27
I'm one of those oddball atheists who likes gospel music but shut up on the plane! Vinca Nov 2023 #31
A lot of atheists like gospel, curiously enough. TwilightZone Nov 2023 #37
Ill go you one further. When i was a kid and played in clubs... NNadir Nov 2023 #85
Tim Minchin TwilightZone Nov 2023 #93
I love opera. But if a famous opera singer stood up in the aisle and sang "Vissi d'arte" Ocelot II Nov 2023 #64
There are too many grumpy people in this string Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #38
I don't care that it was gospel music. It could have been anything Ocelot II Nov 2023 #70
No, there is one person who refuses to consider ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #140
You fail to understand common courtesy Mysterian Nov 2023 #175
Subways of the sky superpatriotman Nov 2023 #39
Americans have never had a firm grasp ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #142
Another reason I stopped going to movie theaters Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #167
I was on a flight one time Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #41
Safety issues, too. BadgerMom Nov 2023 #45
Sure, planes crash all the time from passengers singing Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #47
It is disruptive and against policy obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #49
Against "policy"? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #54
She was disruptive, repeatedly failed to obey the FAs telling her to stop obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #81
I think your change in tack is called an Torchlight Nov 2023 #134
It is a goal post shift. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #169
I want everyone on a plane to be polite and as quiet as possible, and keep your religion to yourself obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #48
Singing is stressful? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #51
You know, you are trolling now, and I am done obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #83
Why not? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #90
You've made your position clear. Repeatedly. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #101
Don't worry, be happy Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #108
Apology acepted. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #118
Yes, it is stressful to other passengers ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #143
Firmly supportive of the Delta crew. Narcissism is doing our country in. NewHendoLib Nov 2023 #52
Me too Demovictory9 Nov 2023 #73
Hard agree. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #103
I'm with the airline on this one pinkstarburst Nov 2023 #53
I wonder how little miss gospel singer Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #56
Or some Hare Krishna singers progressoid Nov 2023 #58
Yup MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #146
Maybe she thought Mr. Evil Nov 2023 #59
Kinda like at the ballpark when they sing "Take Me Out To the Ballgame" Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #69
It is more like running out into the ball field because its all about you. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #170
So you'd approve of top 40 singing but not gospel. How about Elvis? Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #61
I don't approve of any singing on a plane. n/t Coventina Nov 2023 #65
I think you have too many rules Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #74
This subject seems intensely personal to you. Croney Nov 2023 #77
A performer in a way, yes Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #84
Whatever floats your boat. Croney Nov 2023 #86
Or flies your plane, is it were Kennah Nov 2023 #173
Except you aren't "goofing" at other posters obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #88
I am heartily sorry for having offended thee Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #96
You may be having fun, but I'm pretty sure you're the only one. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #107
You may be right, I may be crazy (apologies to Billy Joel) Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #114
Sure, Jan. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #116
trolling is not about likes it is about quantity of responses and level of annoyance Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #171
that"sorry for offending Conjuay Nov 2023 #131
Why are you being such a jerk to me? Seriously, why? obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #152
Here's a crazy idea: NYC Liberal Nov 2023 #109
Her religion is so persecuted. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #157
I don't think singing on a plane is appropriate Mosby Nov 2023 #67
lol. nt ecstatic Nov 2023 #71
Reminder to self - buy a noise canceling headset before I ever fly again csziggy Nov 2023 #78
If I'm ever on a plane where someone starts proselytizing about religion in any way, I hope you're on it, too. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #113
I don't think I would have cared if it wasn't gospel music. intheflow Nov 2023 #89
Only Barbra and Dame Shirley Bassey should be allowed to sing while flying commercially. Oopsie Daisy Nov 2023 #92
Flight attendant pay doesn't start till the doors close. nilram Nov 2023 #94
I agree with the Delta crew member. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #95
It has a paywall. Does it contain the video? Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #97
Yes. Croney Nov 2023 #99
I found it on Instagram Maraya1969 Nov 2023 #145
fuck that noisy thumper asshole👍🎉 bringthePaine Nov 2023 #98
This is the entertainment in hell. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #100
Singing on a plane can introduce unique dangers... Buns_of_Fire Nov 2023 #102
Robert Stack knew how to deal with people trying to sell you...whether in the air or on the ground. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #110
Ha! I was hoping someone would post this! 🤪 MustBeTheBooz Nov 2023 #135
+1 dalton99a Nov 2023 #149
The arrogance of Christian cultists. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2023 #106
Yikes how inconsiderate of her. You start singing that Christian conspiracy theory nonsense to people you don't know MenloParque Nov 2023 #111
Careful with your broad brush. Elessar Zappa Nov 2023 #172
As a Black Female I know what is going on in MY community. MenloParque Nov 2023 #179
IOKIYAC Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Nov 2023 #119
I only see it once Croney Nov 2023 #120
How weird SharonClark Nov 2023 #123
Just as weird Jersey Devil Nov 2023 #128
Are you counting the "milestone" posts? sl8 Nov 2023 #126
Was this a publicity stunt? Renew Deal Nov 2023 #121
I'd probably have thrown my peanuts at her Bayard Nov 2023 #125
STFD & STFU hatrack Nov 2023 #129
If I want to listen to her music, I'll buy her album. Otherwise, not interested. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #130
UGGGH. TSExile Nov 2023 #136
Kicking for Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. usonian Nov 2023 #147
Who doe she think she is? STFU or leave already!! She disrupted an entire Ziggysmom Nov 2023 #153
I agree with the flight attendant treestar Nov 2023 #154
She just would NOT SHUT UP. CoopersDad Nov 2023 #156
Entitled, attention-seeking religious freaks can be super annoying. SYFROYH Nov 2023 #158
The crew was correct malaise Nov 2023 #162
I'm religious, and I don't want my flight to start off with anybody singing. shrike3 Nov 2023 #164
When I purchase a ticket, I expect to suffer from the inconveniences of air travel, but housecat Nov 2023 #174

Maru Kitteh

(31,765 posts)
1. If miss "I'm really important because JAYSUS and I"m up for a Grammy" was sitting next
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:15 PM
Nov 2023

to me I would be asked to move if she didn't STFU.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
68. This is sort of like those to proselytize to captive audiences on trains. Some people had long days and want quiet.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:59 PM
Nov 2023

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
180. Same
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 04:59 PM
Nov 2023

My thoughts exactly. Sit down, buckle up, tray table in the upright position, and STFU.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. The only thing I hate is when the passengers
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:15 PM
Nov 2023

start clapping upon landing. How dumb and I didn’t ask for that. I wish they ban that nonsense.

hlthe2b

(113,978 posts)
13. I've not experienced that except where we sat on the tarmac waiting to take off for hours OR
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:29 PM
Nov 2023

it was the turbulent flight from hell... Then the clapping might not bother me, though I'd be more concerned with getting the hell off that plane.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
17. It's just stress release.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:30 PM
Nov 2023

Flying isn't fun, and it's only gotten worse. Can't blame anyone for being happy to arrive safely and happy that it's over.

I've flown dozens of times and I can't think of more than a couple times that it happened. One was a scheduled 45-minute flight that ended up circling around St. Louis for 2.5 hours around and through thunderstorms and moderate turbulence. Took three attempts to land and bounced hard on the third and swerved. I think pretty much everyone applauded once it was over.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
25. I've only been on one flight where that happened, it was
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:37 PM
Nov 2023

into Atlanta and the fog and clouds were so thick you couldn't see anything at all until a couple seconds before our wheels touched down. It was total nothingness, and then a runway appeared.

FakeNoose

(41,646 posts)
105. I've only experienced passengers clapping on international flights
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:51 PM
Nov 2023

When a plane takes off from Europe or somewhere else, people are bored, sleeping or looking at their TV screens. But when the plane lands on US soil, many passengers clap because they're glad to be back "home" in the USA. I have witnessed this at least 7 or 8 times in the last 30 years, so I know it's not just a one-time fluke.

People don't clap out of fear, it's because they're glad to be back home.

Arthur_Frain

(2,360 posts)
159. Guam to Saipan 1993 or 94
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:57 AM
Nov 2023

Turbulence knocked some people into the ceiling midway through the flight. I don’t have a problem with the people who applauded when it was clear the brakes had worked upon landing. I’ve heard folks applaud on landing in Vegas too, ready to lose some dough apparently.

I mean is this a thing generally these days?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
177. Not the same thing, the incident happen in flight and she...
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 03:21 PM
Nov 2023

and she selfishly began singing out loud and annoying passengers.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
3. Sheesh, let her sing
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:20 PM
Nov 2023

Would listening to a happy person sing for about 5 minutes hurt anyone?

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
12. Singing is a hellova lot better than barking
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:29 PM
Nov 2023

Worst flight ever for me was a redeye from Anchorage to Phoenix with a woman whose lap dog barked every inch of the way.

hlthe2b

(113,978 posts)
18. Never flown on a flight with multiple babies crying continually? Much worse, though I have sympathy
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:31 PM
Nov 2023

for them. Those kids' eardrums were probably driving them mad with the pressure changes and/or a preexisting ear infection.

Midnight Writer

(25,411 posts)
7. Let everyone sing! Give each passenger 5 minutes during flight to stand and sing!
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:25 PM
Nov 2023

Or maybe 5 minutes to make a speech.
Or 5 minutes to preach.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
20. She was happy and proud
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:32 PM
Nov 2023

She just got nominated for a Grammy so her singing was probably pretty good.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
63. Plus, very annoying to plug a new album with a song in front of a captive audience.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:53 PM
Nov 2023

Putting that one on my list of things gone wrong in modern capitalism.

Sadly, one cannot keel haul a highly annoying passenger on a jet airline flight.

Maru Kitteh

(31,765 posts)
24. She's a noxious religious martyr selling a product. I don't want Kirby vacuum demos
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:37 PM
Nov 2023

in the seat next to me either.

She needed to STFU unless everyone in hearing range actually asked her to continue.



Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
44. What about Electrolux?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:19 PM
Nov 2023

Infomercials on a plane might break up the boredom. Personally, I'd like to hear more about Vegamatic.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
30. So what? I prefer the singing of raspy voiced old guys and gals
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:46 PM
Nov 2023

Who gets to decide if someone's singing is "pretty good?"

Flying is stressful and being subjected to proselytizing is offensive.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
34. Who listens to the words in a song if it sounds good? How about "Halelujah"?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:55 PM
Nov 2023

You think Mick Jagger was being religious when he sang "Sympathy for the Devil"?

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
150. I'm chiming in here, because this comment is ridiculous
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 10:29 AM
Nov 2023

You say who listens to the lyrics. Well, that would be many and maybe most of us...Really.
Which Hallelujah, Handel's or Cohen? Why? As a singer, lyrics often determine whether the singer even wants to sing the song, and often it determines whether the listener is interested in hearing it. If it has lyrics, the song has a point and a message*. The lyricist had something to say, and they said it. Lyrics are poetry set to music.

And also, if you listen to the lyrics, Sympathy with the Devil actually is a religious song: It's a monologue by the devil, promoting and advertising his successes.

*with the exception of many Yes songs with lyrics written by Jon Anderson. He himself admits that many of his lyrics are just words picked for their sound and shape in relation to the music. Doesn't make them less awesome.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
139. And Winchester Cathedral won Best Pop Recording
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:49 PM
Nov 2023

Over 'Monday, Monday,' 'Good Vibrations' and, oh yeah, some band from England singing about this bird named 'Eleanor Rigby.'

In short: Winning a Grammy doesn't entitle you to acting like a bloody prat.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
43. Not only that....
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:18 PM
Nov 2023

I think I should have the right to make people listen to my Satanist rock songs.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
14. That's fine. But as soon as she opens her stupid mouth to sing, everyone else
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:29 PM
Nov 2023

gets to scream "SHUT UP! SIT DOWN!" repeatedly, until babies are crying, flight attendants are frazzled and the pilot is looking for somewhere to emergency-land. Deal?

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
19. I think it's unlikely she was going to stop after five minutes.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:32 PM
Nov 2023

Besides, there's this thing called common courtesy.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
26. Heck, ever sing in the shower?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:39 PM
Nov 2023

Most shower concerts in my house don't last much longer than 2 songs. You think she was going to sing MacArthur Park or Alice's Restaurant?

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
36. No, I think she was probably going to sign other songs.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:58 PM
Nov 2023

According to other posts, she also repeatedly told everyone where her music could be purchased, so I don't think she was just going to sign a few bars or one song and call it a day.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
35. It would be more acceptable if it wasn't religious.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:57 PM
Nov 2023

The assumption that we are all one (Christian) and this is okay is wrong. As an atheist, I would have found that assumption obnoxious.

Ocelot II

(130,542 posts)
60. Not really. Airplanes are transportation, not concerts,
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:52 PM
Nov 2023

and I don't care what the music is - I'm on the plane because I want to go somewhere. You can't really understand the words over the engine noise anyhow; whether or not the content is religious, it's just rude to inflict a performance on passengers who didn't volunteer to listen to it.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
132. I do agree.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:12 PM
Nov 2023

Rude, self-promoting behavior that takes advantage of a captive audience is not okay.
We can add promoting the airline's credit cards in mid-flight to the list.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
75. You dont have to be an atheist to find that assumption obnoxious.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:05 PM
Nov 2023

I'm not an atheist, and I would have found her behavior quite offensive. So would loads of other non-atheists, I'm sure. People of faith come in many different varieties, and I have little patience with those who insist that there's only one "right" set of beliefs (theirs) and want to try and convert everyone else.

CrispyQ

(40,971 posts)
151. You can practically tell what type of Christian someone is by the political party they identify with. -nt
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 10:50 AM
Nov 2023

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
165. Only marginally.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:22 PM
Nov 2023

Just STFU and STFD. It is a shitty sky bus. Nobody needs your bullshit.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
55. And so I assume it's okay for every passenger to "entertain"
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:45 PM
Nov 2023

the plane for five minutes? Passenger two gets five minutes to read his slam poetry to the plane? Passengers 3-10, who are all self-published authors on Amazon each get five minutes to read excerpts from their self-published novels and try to promote them to the entire plane?

See how this could go badly?

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
160. I unironically love this song
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:00 PM
Nov 2023

If someone played this on a boombox on BART, I wouldn't even be mad.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
178. I can listen to about 10 seconds but then have turn it off for fear of a permanent earworm infection.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 04:16 PM
Nov 2023

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
76. The flight attendant told her to stop and she argued back
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:07 PM
Nov 2023

Once he said "no" that shoukd hace been it

quakerboy

(14,869 posts)
79. So.. its all good then?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:11 PM
Nov 2023

Next time I board an airplane, I'm free to walk the isle belting out my newest death metal solo?

toad-eye

(42 posts)
122. even a nazi barbershop quartet?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:23 PM
Nov 2023

Maybe it's a musical preference? Buuuut... Not just a "happy" singer. Gospel singer. Meant to further the gospel, aka indoctrinate. One person's religion is another person's mythology. What about the young children being subjected to this indoctrination without the permission or approval of their parents? Turns the plane ride into church. And don't forget to pass the hat.
Now if it was the armpit-playing foot- stomper in an obscure bluegrass band up for a Grammy... I'd be like, "Wait a second. Hear this woman out."

hlthe2b

(113,978 posts)
4. I don't care what the music genre, unless asked, no one should sing on a plane where
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:22 PM
Nov 2023

everyone is basically "hostage" to the "music" (noise). That which evangelizes (gospel) might be adding an additional issue for many. That said, if she sang a few bars and the flight attendant noted that no one seemed bothered, they could ask the passengers if they wanted her to continue and if so, let her do so.

Otherwise, just not cool. Albeit I could take it a bit better than RFK's nasty bare feet in my face (see an earlier post).

hlthe2b

(113,978 posts)
10. Oops, corrected...
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:27 PM
Nov 2023

I've had JFK on my mind since I began listening to Rob Reiner/Soledad O'Brien's 10-part podcast on the assassination.

Croney

(5,017 posts)
8. She wasn't just singing. She was selling.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:26 PM
Nov 2023

She said several times where and how her product could be purchased. If I had been near her, I could not have kept silent.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
72. Were I there, she would be wearing an emptied out carry on over her head
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:03 PM
Nov 2023

See, I am an old pantheist who is really fed up with attempts to force one religion on others. And the threat of life in jail isn't all that much of a deterrent these days.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
127. Bravo
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:28 PM
Nov 2023

The second I saw this I immediately thought of Cheryl Wheeler's song "GOD"......LOL It is just too damn bad Cheryl wasn't on the plane to follow up this religious zealot's performance, with Cheryl Wheeler's song about GOD........esp her line about not having a problem if YOU wish to worship YOUR IMAGINARY COMPANION'S words, but if you shove it on me, we are gonna have a REAL problem.....

Check it out:



LOLOLOLOLOL

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
9. This shameless self promotor made those poor airline employee's lives hell
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:26 PM
Nov 2023

she was just looking for trouble

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
28. Pretty much, you don't see anyone else walking up and down the aisles singing
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:43 PM
Nov 2023

yet, because she considers herself a Christian, she feels she is above the rules and is opposed if people say otherwise

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
46. As far as reality is concerned, is it realistic to expect to have a good time on a plane?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:29 PM
Nov 2023

Heck, there are so many things to get annoyed about on a flight that I would welcome something different like singing. A lot of smiling and clapping and foot stomping wouldn't bother me. This string reminds me of another movie, "Footloose".

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
87. How nice for you. 🙄
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:17 PM
Nov 2023

However, your being unbothered or even entertained by someone putting on a concert for a captive audience on a plane does not trump anyone else's desire to not be subjected to religious proselytizing in a setting where there is no possibility of escape.

DFW

(60,189 posts)
27. I am absolutely with the Delta employee on this. Toss the offender off the plane, whether still on the ground or not.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 01:40 PM
Nov 2023

The very word "fascist" is from the Latin word "facere," to do or to make. A fascist is one who would make you do something. Anyone who would force me to listen to anything like that is no different from someone opening up a so-called "ghetto blaster" and making the whole plane listen to Lawrence Welk or MC Hammer or Der Ring der Niebelungen, or whatever. If an infant is feeling bad about something and screaming, I can't stand that, either, but I also get that an infant doesn't deliberately make people in the plane suffer its cries on purpose. An adult noisemaker does.

And I usually don't mind air travel at all. This kind of thing must be double torture for those who already don't like air travel.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
37. A lot of atheists like gospel, curiously enough.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:04 PM
Nov 2023

On a similar note, many atheists like holiday/Christmas music.

Just not on a plane.

NNadir

(38,059 posts)
85. Ill go you one further. When i was a kid and played in clubs...
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:17 PM
Nov 2023

...in a folk setting, I often performed folk gospel songs, particularly those by Josh White.

I have no religion.

When my mother was dying, her last request, she told my aunts, her sisters, was that I believe in God. Talk about making unreasonable last requests!

My aunts tried to tell her that I must have believed in God, because I knew and played so many gospel folk songs. My mother knew better, even as her brain failed.

The music is beautiful, the rhetoric not so much.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
93. Tim Minchin
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:24 PM
Nov 2023

Writing about Christmas music:

"Some of the hymns that they sing have nice chords but the lyrics are dodgy"

From "White Wine in the Sun," the best holiday song ever written (in my opinion!).

Tim's an atheist and a writer/producer/director/artist/human being extraordinaire.

Ocelot II

(130,542 posts)
64. I love opera. But if a famous opera singer stood up in the aisle and sang "Vissi d'arte"
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:55 PM
Nov 2023

I'd be just as irritated. An airplane is a means of transportation, not a concert hall, and I don't want some singer on an ego trip "entertaining" me when I just want to go somewhere without being bothered.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
38. There are too many grumpy people in this string
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:06 PM
Nov 2023

Heck, I sure understand why no one would want to fly on a plane with a crying baby or a barking dog, but singing? As far as it being some kind of religious evangelism, check I love gospel music and I'm not the least bit religious. I bet most of the people in this string would respond with "humbug" if someone wished them a Merry Christmas.

Ocelot II

(130,542 posts)
70. I don't care that it was gospel music. It could have been anything
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:02 PM
Nov 2023

and it would have been just as inappropriate. Why not have a karaoke setup so anybody who wanted to could sing whatever they wanted and annoy all the other passengers who are just trying to go somewhere? Religion has nothing to do with it; it's about the rudeness of a self-promoting passenger.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
140. No, there is one person who refuses to consider
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:59 PM
Nov 2023

The needs or wants or feelings of anyone else.

Nobody has the right to force their cult on anyone else, especially not in a captive space. And people paid for a flight, not to be subjected to an obnoxious prat who has no bloody manners.

If you like this trash and trashy behavior, then pay for a bloody ticket to see this ill-mannered idiot in concert, and let the rest of us have our peace and quiet.

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
175. You fail to understand common courtesy
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 02:34 PM
Nov 2023

That's your problem, not "grumpy" people in this thread.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
142. Americans have never had a firm grasp
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 06:23 PM
Nov 2023

On being considerate of others. Oh, it happens, but too often the national personality has very little respect for boundaries or personal space or having a clue about respecting anyone else's need for peace and quiet.

And they don't take polite hints to back off, either.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
167. Another reason I stopped going to movie theaters
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:26 PM
Nov 2023

I really have zero tolerance for people who cannot shut up or who have to be on their fucking phones all the time everywhere.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
41. I was on a flight one time
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:14 PM
Nov 2023

from San Francisco to Los Angeles on Christmas eve, which is a 50 minute flight when a flight attendant led us all in Christmas carols. But before she did so, she asked us if we would like to do that and no one objected. I'm not a big fan of Christmas carols, but I admit it was kind of fun.

BadgerMom

(3,417 posts)
45. Safety issues, too.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:27 PM
Nov 2023

Where was she standing? Was there a drink service going on? Was restroom access blocked? The crew is safety-trained and safety-oriented.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
47. Sure, planes crash all the time from passengers singing
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:34 PM
Nov 2023

Laughing is probably just as dangerous so let's ban funny books while in flight.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
81. She was disruptive, repeatedly failed to obey the FAs telling her to stop
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:13 PM
Nov 2023

People have been kicked off and banned for less, and she is lucky it didn't happen to her.

Your excusing and stanning disruptive passengers is offputting and perplexing. You seem to be mocking me about "policy," but it is policy and Federal laws. She refused to obey FAs, and that is breaking Federal law, so thank you for reminding me to eidt that in.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
48. I want everyone on a plane to be polite and as quiet as possible, and keep your religion to yourself
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:35 PM
Nov 2023

Babies get a pass from the "behave"policy.

I don't want to hear ANY singing, but especially not someone WALKING through the plane singing about God and Jesus. Flying is stressful and awful enough as it is.

She could have told a FA and been excited, and they would have probably made an announcement. I was on a flight once when they announced we had an Olympian medal winner aboard -- it was a wrestler who later became an MMA fighter, and that's all I am saying.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
51. Singing is stressful?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:39 PM
Nov 2023

Some guy sitting in the middle seat who barfs on my loafers, now that would be stressful. But singing?

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
83. You know, you are trolling now, and I am done
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:16 PM
Nov 2023

You are only now mocking and snarking at anyone who replies.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
90. Why not?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:21 PM
Nov 2023

The world is exploding and silly me, I found it rather ridiculous for people to get all lathered up about someone who was so happy she burst into a song.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
101. You've made your position clear. Repeatedly.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:35 PM
Nov 2023

We all know where you stand on this. Fine, you do you. Most of us feel differently. I suggest that you at least try to respect that and quit telling the rest of us that we're "silly," because we would not enjoy something you would enjoy.

Telling other people how they should feel is inappropriate, and so is criticizing them for feeling differently than you do. You're doing both, over and over and over. Please stop.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
108. Don't worry, be happy
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:54 PM
Nov 2023

The only person I called "silly" was myself. With all the turmoil going on in the world I just thought that having a little fun with a not terribly important subject would lighten things up a bit. Perhaps I took it too far and got that I apologise.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
118. Apology acepted.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:11 PM
Nov 2023

For the record, I believe you did take it a bit too far, but I realize that annoying people was not your intention.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
103. Hard agree.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:46 PM
Nov 2023

An airplane full of passengers is the very definition of a captive audience. The flight attendants were 100% correct to shut this down.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
53. I'm with the airline on this one
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:43 PM
Nov 2023

People have forgotten how to behave appropriately in public. Would it have been okay if someone wanted to stand up and perform some slam poetry for half an hour, containing graphic sexual language and innuendo? What if someone wanted to stand up and read to the entire plane from a novel they had self-published for the entire flight?

They ask you to sit in your seat and entertain yourself with a book or your phone or some knitting quietly for a reason. Just because this idiot thought she was amazing and the whole plane should be falling at her feet to hear her amazing performance doesn't mean anyone else felt the same. Sit your butt down and be quiet.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
56. I wonder how little miss gospel singer
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:45 PM
Nov 2023

would like to hear a few rappers perform their profanity laced hits on the plane.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
59. Maybe she thought
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:51 PM
Nov 2023

this was a great opportunity to sing since she had such a captive audience.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
69. Kinda like at the ballpark when they sing "Take Me Out To the Ballgame"
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:00 PM
Nov 2023

It's over quick and nobody gets hurt.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
170. It is more like running out into the ball field because its all about you.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:29 PM
Nov 2023

and the behavior deserves the tackle and arrest that it gets.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
61. So you'd approve of top 40 singing but not gospel. How about Elvis?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:53 PM
Nov 2023

Personally I'd like to have Billy Joel or Elton John singing on my plane. Elvis recorded a lot of gospel, so would you object to Elvis singing on your plane?

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
74. I think you have too many rules
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:04 PM
Nov 2023

I enjoy it when I see (or hear) happy people. If we were closer to Christmas I'd probably call you a Grinch.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
84. A performer in a way, yes
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:16 PM
Nov 2023

I'm a lawyer. With everything so tense lately in the news I am having a good time goofing with the OP. Is that analogous to singing on a plane?

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
88. Except you aren't "goofing" at other posters
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:18 PM
Nov 2023

You are mocking and attacking them for some reason, thinking it's funny. It isn't.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
96. I am heartily sorry for having offended thee
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:29 PM
Nov 2023

No mocking anyone. Just having a little fun with a not so very important topic. Put me on ignore if you wish so that your sensibilities will not suffer.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
107. You may be having fun, but I'm pretty sure you're the only one.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:52 PM
Nov 2023

In fact, I'm just about positive you're the only one having fun. Based on the responses you're getting, I'd say you are actually annoying quite a few people.

You need to learn to read the room.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
114. You may be right, I may be crazy (apologies to Billy Joel)
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:06 PM
Nov 2023

Imagine a string about singing on an airplane having well over 100 responses on DU and maybe you could be wrong about people not having fun. "You could be wrong but you may be right" to quote the bard of 52nd Street.

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
131. that"sorry for offending
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:06 PM
Nov 2023
thee “ in and of itself insulting and belittling.

Now getting back to the question at hand, I’m sure her recordings have automatic pitch correction, layering, reverb and a host of other tricks of the trade her running her mouth on a plane does not have.

This is ego, not talent to pull a stunt like that.

They should have offered her a parachute and tell her to go sing outside.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
152. Why are you being such a jerk to me? Seriously, why?
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:03 AM
Nov 2023

Again, you are not "having fun," you are being bullying and mocking. Vrey much a "it's a jooookeeeee.... quit being so thin-skinnneddddddd."

Don't tell me who to put on ignore. I'm not the one being a bully.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
109. Here's a crazy idea:
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:54 PM
Nov 2023

If you want to hear people singing while you’re on a plane, put on some headphones and connect them to the device of your choice. Then everyone gets to listen to the music that makes them happy and those who don’t want to hear singing don’t have to.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
157. Her religion is so persecuted.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:45 AM
Nov 2023

It must be so hard for her. I can't imagine going through life as part of the dominant religion and having to put up with people who don't want your religion pushed in their faces.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
78. Reminder to self - buy a noise canceling headset before I ever fly again
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:10 PM
Nov 2023

That way I can ignore screaming babies - whether they are gospel singers or little humans - and barking dogs. I don't want to listen to any of them. While the music part of gospel is OK, I detest the message in gospel music and will not voluntarily listen to it. If I were subjected to it in a confined area where I have no choice, I would be complaining to the flight attendants or whoever is in charge to tell them to STFU. If needed, I can go full Karen very effectively.

ShazzieB

(22,593 posts)
113. If I'm ever on a plane where someone starts proselytizing about religion in any way, I hope you're on it, too.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:01 PM
Nov 2023
I would be complaining to the flight attendants or whoever is in charge to tell them to STFU. If needed, I can go full Karen very effectively.


Same here, and they'd have a really hard time ignoring both of us!

intheflow

(30,180 posts)
89. I don't think I would have cared if it wasn't gospel music.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:19 PM
Nov 2023

But basically, regardless of her motivation, she was proselytizing to a trapped audience and that sucks on a lot of levels.

nilram

(3,549 posts)
94. Flight attendant pay doesn't start till the doors close.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:25 PM
Nov 2023

One reason that boarding a plane is so rushed and miserable.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
95. I agree with the Delta crew member.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:25 PM
Nov 2023

I'm not a fan of gospel music and I wouldn't want to have it forced on me.

LudwigPastorius

(14,728 posts)
110. Robert Stack knew how to deal with people trying to sell you...whether in the air or on the ground.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:54 PM
Nov 2023

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
106. The arrogance of Christian cultists.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:52 PM
Nov 2023

The cult tells them that they are always in the right. God is always helping them. Even in furthering their singing careers. And if in their very egotistical human minds they decide to "entertain' a captive audience to show off, then it MUST be God telling them to do it.

She takes advantage of people's politeness. Yes there may have been a few others there, likely fellow cultists, who wanted to hear her, but I'm sure most in the plane just wanted quiet and be able to relax.

And the audacity of then putting out a post how the airline apologized to her (I'd like to see that) implying that she did nothing wrong. D E L U D E D.

MenloParque

(566 posts)
111. Yikes how inconsiderate of her. You start singing that Christian conspiracy theory nonsense to people you don't know
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:57 PM
Nov 2023

In a tin can in the sky you are the Asshole. I paint all believers in that Sky Daddy nonsense with the same brush as Trumpers. They suck

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
172. Careful with your broad brush.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 01:26 PM
Nov 2023

The most loyal base of the Democratic Party, black Americans, are the most religious group in the country. If we’re seen as an anti-religion party, we’ll lose every time. Joe Biden is a devout Catholic. Does he “suck”?

MenloParque

(566 posts)
179. As a Black Female I know what is going on in MY community.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 04:50 PM
Nov 2023

I am happy to know that more and more of my People are realizing that religion poisons everything. Never said Biden sucks as he if free to practice religion in this country. I am also free to say that religion sucks. All of them.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
117. IOKIYAC
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:09 PM
Nov 2023

It's okay if you're a Christian. Because if someone tries to stop you, it's religious discrimination.

I'd start chanting "We all come from the Goddess" or something like that.

Response to Coventina (Original post)

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
123. How weird
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:25 PM
Nov 2023

When scanning thru Latest Discussions, the OP popped up 4 times, about 30 minutes apart.
When I sorted on author name, it was only listed once, so you are correct.

I'll delete my post.

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
128. Just as weird
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:29 PM
Nov 2023

Sometimes when I refresh the General Discussion page the entire thread seems to disappear and then reappears after a few more refreshes. Maybe a software glitch?

sl8

(17,110 posts)
126. Are you counting the "milestone" posts?
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:26 PM
Nov 2023

e.g., "25 replies", "50 replies", etc.?

They're from the system, not the OP.

I only see one post with this title, other than the 3 "milestone" posts. You can turn off the display of them.

Bayard

(29,710 posts)
125. I'd probably have thrown my peanuts at her
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:26 PM
Nov 2023

Its been a long time since I've flown, but when I do, I want to read or sleep.

Jedi Guy

(3,477 posts)
130. If I want to listen to her music, I'll buy her album. Otherwise, not interested.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:42 PM
Nov 2023

And that goes double for being crammed like sardines into a tin can going 600 mph at 30k feet. Hard pass, lady, please sit your tuchus down.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
136. UGGGH.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:29 PM
Nov 2023

If I'm on a plane, I want as much quiet as possible. Noise-canceling headphones are a necessity!!

usonian

(25,335 posts)
147. Kicking for Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 11:44 PM
Nov 2023

IIRC, Steve Martin tries to get passengers to sing " Three Coins in a Fountain" and fizzles, but how if the passengers on the plane counter with John Candy's "Flintstones" theme? That'd drown out the proselytizing.

Especially the January 6 version:

Flynn-Stones
Meet the Flynn Stones
They're the modern stone-age family
From the Hotel Willard
They made plans to kill democracy

Let's ride in the limo with Mike Pence
His life isn't worth eleven cents.

When you're with the Flynn-Stones
Have a G.O.P. sedition
A great new year tradition.
We're gonna do hard time.


Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
153. Who doe she think she is? STFU or leave already!! She disrupted an entire
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:04 AM
Nov 2023

flight because she wanted a captive audience, and then blames the employee for doing his job!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
154. I agree with the flight attendant
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:08 AM
Nov 2023

no matter what type of music it is, or if it is a speech. Just rude to take advantage of a captive audience like that. True some may enjoy it, but others will be annoyed and that takes precedence IMO.

They used to have a movie but you had headphones so those who didn't want to watch it didn't have to hear it.

CoopersDad

(3,333 posts)
156. She just would NOT SHUT UP.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:26 AM
Nov 2023

How completely rude and self-absorbed and to make it worse totally unapologetic.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
158. Entitled, attention-seeking religious freaks can be super annoying.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 11:53 AM
Nov 2023

But mostly, this seems like a publicity stunt.

malaise

(296,131 posts)
162. The crew was correct
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:05 PM
Nov 2023

She had no right to either self promote or proselytize on that flight.

I was in a Zoom meeting recently and one of the functionaries wanted to begin with prayer. I interrupted her and suggested that she read the institution’s statutes before imposing her religious views on the rest of us. There were people from a variety of religions and no faith in that meeting.

She sent me an email apologizing after the meeting.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
164. I'm religious, and I don't want my flight to start off with anybody singing.
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 12:09 PM
Nov 2023

Travel is stressful enough. No, thanks.

housecat

(3,138 posts)
174. When I purchase a ticket, I expect to suffer from the inconveniences of air travel, but
Tue Nov 14, 2023, 02:14 PM
Nov 2023

I do not expect to have my flight ruined by other passengers unless they paid for my ticket.

Crying babies, barking dogs, and loud singers should pay for the nuisance they create. Landlords often have a surcharge for pets, theaters may not admit babies, and libraries ban noise. Airlines could discourage nuisance by babies, dogs, and other passengers by selling extra seats to the passengers who impose their noise on a very captive audience.

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