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gab13by13

(27,973 posts)
1. Andrew Weissmann
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 09:50 PM
Nov 2023

Just asked the same question I already asked, why isn’t someone interrogating Grassley?

malaise

(283,783 posts)
2. Some of us have been asking since he walked back that announcement
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 09:58 PM
Nov 2023

That he would be officiating on J6

leftieNanner

(15,955 posts)
3. Oh, Mr Smith?
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:05 AM
Nov 2023

We need a fresh subpoena over here on aisle six. Chuck may have some information for you.

peggysue2

(11,790 posts)
4. The thing with Grassley was out but . . .
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:12 AM
Nov 2023

flew 'mysteriously' under the radar because our feckless media failed to pick it up (1000x verification that only the Magas get) and amplify the detail that good ole boy Grassley was standing by to sell out the nation to Trump, his enablers and the sedition weasels pushing the fake electors strategy, the pregnant pause that Republicans hung their hats on.

We came a micro-inch from utter disaster allowing Trump and his sycophants from winning the day.

That close!

The plan was in operation. And many elected Republicans in both houses were in on the deal.

malaise

(283,783 posts)
6. They allowed him to walk it back
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:45 AM
Nov 2023

Lock them up

Grassley’s true colors

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/rekha-basu/2022/11/04/chuck-grassley-donald-trump-rally-iowa-shows-true-colors-senate/69615993007/

If you're still on the fence about which candidate to vote for in Iowa's U.S. Senate race, the image of Sen. Chuck Grassley on Thursday cozying up to disgraced, defeated, lying, former president Donald Trump ought to tip the scales.

This isn't a case of Iowa-style loyalty to a longtime friend or political incumbent. Federal prosecutors, in the face of overwhelming evidence, are now criminally investigating Trump’s efforts to change the 2020 election outcome in his favor by asking an election official to “find” him another 11,780 votes. That’s what two-bit dictators do, enabled by corrupt government systems stacked toward an outcome.

Our system is better than that.
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Grassley was one of the enablers

peggysue2

(11,790 posts)
8. Yes, he was malaise
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:20 PM
Nov 2023

Grassley and the others need to be held accountable. They brought us to the brink bc they would not accept the results of a legitimate election. All for Agent Orange who they knew/know is corrupt, incompetent and unAmerican.

Never forget, never forgive.

Kid Berwyn

(20,259 posts)
5. Speaker Pelosi and Gen. Milley made clear the Constitution was the roadmap.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 01:08 AM
Nov 2023

Not the feelings of “my friend.”

Jersey Devil

(10,409 posts)
9. Don't forget part 2 of the Grassley story
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:26 PM
Nov 2023

Remember during the attack on the Capital the Secret Service was trying to get Mike Pence in the car to be removed to an undislosed location and he refused to get in the car? If he got in then he wouldn't be there when they resumed the session and Grassley would have presided.

These bastards were still trying even after the attack.

wiggs

(8,230 posts)
11. Thing is, while lots of facts are still unclear about Jan6, Grassley, Pence, other congressional participants,
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:56 PM
Nov 2023

Proud Boys, efforts to get Pence out of the Capitol, war rooms at the Willard, and more...there is no reason why we shouldn't assume the worst, given what IS factually known about how this mob operates outside of Jan 6.

We don't know for sure what Grassley was thinking about doing IF he was to ascend to the podium to count electoral votes. But by now, based on 7 years of observation, assuming the worst is likely to be closer to the truth than otherwise.

No benefit of the doubt has been earned, at least for purposes of public discourse. It would be irresponsible for us and media outlets to trust that this group operates in good faith. We know them too well.

(hard for me to believe the WH gang wasn't devious and desperate enough to realize Grassley was potentially part of the election pathway and didn't reach out to him in some fashion...therefore despite lack of evidence I will for now assume that WH and/or associates did coordinate with Grassley)

wiggs

(8,230 posts)
15. Perhaps Michael Flynn is the link. Or Barbara Ledeen...for those who read Seth
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 08:58 PM
Nov 2023

Abramson he just today writes an update on the 'Grassley Plot'...one of several ongoing plots to keep this mob in office before January 6. The Grassley Plot might have been their best pathway at the time...and makes a lot of sense to me.

Seth speculates based on publicly available information and does a deep dive into what is known and reported. He reminds us what we may have forgotten, and ties loose ends together in a credible narrative. I find he's ahead of the curve many times.

What we do know is that on December 18, 2020, Michael Flynn had an “in” inside the office of Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA), the hard-right politician who would preside over the January 6 joint session of Congress if Vice President Mike Pence could be convinced to stay away from the United States Capitol on that historic day.
...
What ABC News reports is that on December 21, 2020, the very next business day after Trump met with Grassley’s adviser’s close friend Flynn, Trump summoned Pence to his office to pitch to him—for the first time—a plan that would see Grassley lead his coup plot inside the Capitol on January 6 instead of Pence (Pence having already made clear to Trump, by December 21, that he was unlikely to do the president’s bidding).
...
So in the six days between December 18, 2020 and that Christmas Eve, we find events proceeding from someone with strong ties to Senator Grassley’s office (Michael Flynn) meeting with Trump and two Trump attorneys; to the Grassley Plot being discussed between Trump and Pence in private; to it being discussed as an already-raised plot in an email between members of Trump’s legal team (which included known unindicted Trump co-conspirator Boris Ephsteyn); to it being of such seriousness in Trump’s mind and in the way he conveyed it to Pence that, per ABC News, the vice president was mere moments from deciding to abandon his constitutional duty by Christmas Eve—and was only dissuaded from this disastrous course of action by his soldier son.

A lot more to chew on at https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/the-chuck-grassley-plot-thickens?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=262336&post_id=139256826&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=638ph&utm_medium=email

subscription might be needed...not sure.


PufPuf23

(9,384 posts)
12. Every day the enablers are conspirators in Jan 6 remain in Congress is another day the USA is in a
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 07:09 PM
Nov 2023

toaster. The delay and lack in addressing means toast for the USA.

Meanwhile, the World metaphorically and literally burns.

Maybe there are not many good people left with any power?

OldBaldy1701E

(7,804 posts)
13. It seems to me that the issue is that
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 07:17 PM
Nov 2023

Power does not seem to draw good people. Maybe we should reassess what 'power' is?

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