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WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:35 PM Nov 2012

Chris Christie

Serious question here and one that deserves an honest answer...

Did your feelings concerning Chris Christie change at all when he sat politics aside and worked with President Obama to put the welfare of the citizens of his state first?

Paige

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Yeah. MgtPA Nov 2012 #1
Mine certainly did, I have a lot of time for Christie now. He seriously did put politics aside in teddy51 Nov 2012 #2
Agreed. I like him a lot better than I did before the storm democrattotheend Nov 2012 #8
I saw a real human being under the cloak, and he was very much into helping his people teddy51 Nov 2012 #10
It was nice to see bigwillq Nov 2012 #3
I have reservations. I do like his outreach and his work with Obama. It makes sense. CTyankee Nov 2012 #4
Yes veganlush Nov 2012 #5
yes EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #6
Only for that one moment. Still think he's a bully jackass. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #7
Agree n/t joesdaughter Nov 2012 #27
+1 n/t IL Lib Nov 2012 #32
Yes, but Kber Nov 2012 #9
Yes, & I'm hoping that the discussion that continues to evolve from that positive incident pacalo Nov 2012 #11
Yes. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #12
Somewhat. I still disagree with some of his ideas. Jennicut Nov 2012 #13
I have some respect for him now but I don't trust him. nt Raine Nov 2012 #14
Yes. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #15
Yes; doubly so when I saw on SNL how good he is at comedy! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #16
If all Republicans were like him ToxMarz Nov 2012 #17
He ran on a platform that promised not to interfere with state employees' benefits. jerseyjack Nov 2012 #18
No different than Cuomo in NY. djg21 Nov 2012 #47
I always liked him.... RichGirl Nov 2012 #19
Hell to the no. MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #20
I would like to say I felt better about Christie. Trouble is....... wandy Nov 2012 #21
Absolutely! Here was a Republican who decided to act to serve THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HIM, instead Trailrider1951 Nov 2012 #22
Yes, somewhat Spirochete Nov 2012 #23
I Was Really Afraid... WiffenPoof Nov 2012 #24
Yes. A lot, for the positive. Christie did what a leader should do. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #25
I thought it was consistent with when he defended his appointment of some Gay and Muslim JI7 Nov 2012 #26
Christie was one of the Republicans I am somewhat neutral on. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #28
I kind of like the guy he says what he thinks although doc03 Nov 2012 #29
No, he's still a union busting toadie of the 1%. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #30
I have a bit more respect for him mzteaze Nov 2012 #31
I agree with that 2naSalit Nov 2012 #34
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) bestobdii Nov 2012 #33
a tiny bit upi402 Nov 2012 #35
Chris Christie was thinking about Chris Christie... polichick Nov 2012 #36
Living near Philly MadrasT Nov 2012 #37
No, but it probably won him re-election Jersey Devil Nov 2012 #38
I would still never vote for him One of the 99 Nov 2012 #39
No JVS Nov 2012 #40
Not to the extent of ever supporting him for any political office. yardwork Nov 2012 #41
I Understand Your Point WiffenPoof Nov 2012 #42
Yes, Christie Showed Compassion During the Storm and Receptive of Govt. Help Yavin4 Nov 2012 #43
Not a bit. forestpath Nov 2012 #44
Hmmm... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #45
He's the same guy he always was (for better or worse) SoCalDem Nov 2012 #46
It speaks volumes for the level of discourse in this country Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #48
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
2. Mine certainly did, I have a lot of time for Christie now. He seriously did put politics aside in
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:38 PM
Nov 2012

favor of helping his State heal from this disaster.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
8. Agreed. I like him a lot better than I did before the storm
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

He did a mostly good job of handling the storm and I appreciated him working with the president when a lot of people in his shoes might have used the opportunity to say that the president wasn't doing a good job of handling the storm even if he was, which would have probably handed Romney the election.

I still won't vote for him because I disagree with him too much on issues like unions and affordable housing, but my opinion of him is higher than it was before the storm.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
10. I saw a real human being under the cloak, and he was very much into helping his people
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nov 2012

get through this thing, and working well with the President. It was a great bonus that he praised the President constantly. He is and has been taking the flack from the Repugs. for doing this.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
3. It was nice to see
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
Nov 2012

Not sure my feelings changed about him on anything else besides that one event, but it was nice to see both parties working together during a crisis.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. I have reservations. I do like his outreach and his work with Obama. It makes sense.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
Nov 2012

I think that is fine. I want to hear how he has "evolved" on social issues such as women'r reproductive rights and marriage equality.

So, we'll see! So far, okay at best, but I am waiting for the other answers...

Kber

(5,043 posts)
9. Yes, but
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

Yes in that it is a relief to find a republican who can put practicality over partisanship.

But he's still going after public teachers with a vengeance and I disagree with many of his policies.

He behaved well during the storm and I'm totally OK with him being politically "rewarded", if that happens. I'm also cautiously optimistic that he may represent a reality based wing of the republican establishment with whom we can work when circumstances allow.

Any fantasy that he will give up his conservative beliefs and become a liberal Democrat is just that: a fantasy.

Which is OK - America needs a strong two party system and right now we have a center-left party and a bunch of crazies.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
11. Yes, & I'm hoping that the discussion that continues to evolve from that positive incident
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nov 2012

will cause Christie to reevaluate the error of some of his heavy-handed policies against those who are vulnerable.

I'm thinking he probably feels pretty good about himself in doing the right thing & perhaps the negativity being spouted from those in his own party could lead to his own introspection about the two parties' value systems.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
12. Yes.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:56 PM
Nov 2012

As much as I disagree with him on a lot of things, it wasrefreshing to see him do what was best for the residents of New Jersey, especially in light of what a complete and utter fraud Mitt Romney was.

I wish Christie was a Democrat. Maybe if he gets screwed over enough by the republicans he'll mellow out even more.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. Somewhat. I still disagree with some of his ideas.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:58 PM
Nov 2012

But like Charlie Crist, I have a more positive opinion of a Repub willing to put politics aside. Charlie left his party, wonder if Chris will too.

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
17. If all Republicans were like him
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nov 2012

I wouldn't be repulsed and in mortal fear of them in power. But I wouldn't vote for them.

 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
18. He ran on a platform that promised not to interfere with state employees' benefits.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

During his first year, he fucked over those employees. He argued the state was in bad economic straits. He made no attempt to raise taxes on the rich.

By the way, the Democrats in the state legislature rolled over on this.

Until the hurricane, he wanted to LOWER taxes. This was probably in anticipation towards 2016.

FUCK CHRISTIE !

Yes, he was good during the hurricane. But what's that they say about a broken clock?

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
47. No different than Cuomo in NY.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:09 PM
Nov 2012

I might consider voting for Christie if it comes down to the two of them in 2016.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
19. I always liked him....
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:09 PM
Nov 2012

Because he wasn't the typical politician. Now I like him more. BUT....if he ran for prez I can't imagine liking him more than whoever the dem candidate is. I certain I wouldn't even consider voting for him Maybe I would be a tiny, teeny, weeny bit less stressed during the election. McCain/Palin then Romney...so SO stressful.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
21. I would like to say I felt better about Christie. Trouble is.......
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

Since GWB, Teapublicans have grown ever more dishonest, disreputable and just plain disgusting. Yes his behavior was commendable, still warming up to the guy gives me about the same warm fuzzy feeling as warming up to a rabid badger.
I can't help but to think that they are all teabaggers now with a goodly amount of Nixon thrown in for good venom.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
22. Absolutely! Here was a Republican who decided to act to serve THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HIM, instead
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:40 PM
Nov 2012

of the party leaders and pundits. That was the act of a STATESMAN, not the act of a politician. Most Republicans elected to office would be wise to study that fact.......and a few goddam DINOs as well.

Edited to add: The rumored meeting with the BOSS may have helped to grease the skids....jus sayin'.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
23. Yes, somewhat
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:33 PM
Nov 2012

I didn't think any of these repub governors were remotely capable of putting the people they were elected to serve over the GOP, but apparently he was. He's still a gonad, but a little less of one, IMO.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
24. I Was Really Afraid...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:52 PM
Nov 2012

...that when I posted this question, I was going to get a flurry of the typical bashing of a Republican (and there is some and somewhat deserved in my opinion). It was a pleasant surprise to find that people were willing to give credit where credit was due. I am no fan of the Republican Party and I am confident that I would never vote for Christie. However, to see someone say that he didn't give a damn about Presidential politics and that his people come first was refreshing. To his credit, he complimented the President's effort on his behalf when it would have been so easy for him to either ignore the President or even make up some sort of story that the President didn't do his job. Once again, I could never vote for a Republican...but I give kudos to Christie for acting like a statesman.

If the roles were reversed, I wonder if people in Freeperland would have complimented a Dem doing the same thing. I'm not so sure.

-Paige

JI7

(89,251 posts)
26. I thought it was consistent with when he defended his appointment of some Gay and Muslim
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:52 AM
Nov 2012

people to certain offices. unlike Romney he defended them and showed his irritation at the crazies in his party who complained.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. Christie was one of the Republicans I am somewhat neutral on.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:03 AM
Nov 2012

But, I think he should switch parties. I don't know what role he could play as a Democrat, I don't think he is evolved enough to be of much use. But, his party is nuts, he knows it. I can see the stress in him that this is causing. I also think he is lying about who he voted for. I can't blame him, but if he is I wish he wouldn't do that. I am glad he put politics aside to serve his people. Now if he could just evolve to stop being a union busting thug we can talk.

doc03

(35,344 posts)
29. I kind of like the guy he says what he thinks although
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:10 AM
Nov 2012

I rarely agree with him. Being from New Jersey with all the mob influence we hear about I wonder if he has any skeletons in his closet.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
30. No, he's still a union busting toadie of the 1%.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:24 AM
Nov 2012

Just because he isn't as insane as West or Bachmann doesn't mean he's any less of an asshole.

If he can make it past a primary he's dangerous in a Presidential run.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
31. I have a bit more respect for him
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:28 AM
Nov 2012

BUT this is a qualified respect since he and his policies have sucked with regards to unions and the mishandling of other funds around the state.

2naSalit

(86,643 posts)
34. I agree with that
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:05 AM
Nov 2012

He was responsible and did the right thing with regard to his handling of the storm thing. He still has a ways to go to make me think he's national material. I do appreciate and respect his honesty with regard to how he interacted with Obama and bailed out on the R$ campaign circus because he had a big job to do at the time. He would have been skewered by the rest of the planet if he blew it on the responsibilities he needed to address with the storm... in some ways I think he handled his state's issues better than Bloomberg handled his responsibilities before and after the storm. But I wouldn't consider voting for him.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
35. a tiny bit
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:15 AM
Nov 2012

he's a conservative politician. this disease of the soul is intractable.

he did a basic, NORMAL thing and does not deserve a Brownie Button for it.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
37. Living near Philly
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:01 AM
Nov 2012

I have seen a lot of Christie over the past few years (NJ is just over the river after all) and I have always rather liked his style. He seems much more real to me than most politicians. This side of him came out more to the world during Sandy.

I don't agree with his politics, but I have always kind of begrudgingly liked him.

I wish he'd defect and go Dem.

There, I said it.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
38. No, but it probably won him re-election
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:17 AM
Nov 2012

He is a union busting bully and mean spirited. How he handled Sandy didn't change any of that. But everyone I've spoken to here in NJ gives him great credit for how he rose above politics to work with President Obama concerning the storm. He also won some points for speaking sentimentally about his days as a kid at the shore, a side of him no one has seen before.

I think the only Democrat with a remote chance of beating him would be Corey Booker, but would not be surprised at all if Booker passes on the nomination and waits for 2017 or runs for the US Senate (should Lautenburg retire) in 2014.

yardwork

(61,629 posts)
41. Not to the extent of ever supporting him for any political office.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:31 AM
Nov 2012

I'm curious about why a person who did the minimally decent thing expected of him in his role of governor is now being lauded as some kind of hero. It says a lot about how pathetic most Republican politicians are that we would praise somebody for simply doing his job.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
42. I Understand Your Point
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:44 PM
Nov 2012

However, I think people are responding to the fact that he was so willing to praise the President for his outstanding support at every turn. He really didn't have to go as far as he did.

Paige

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
43. Yes, Christie Showed Compassion During the Storm and Receptive of Govt. Help
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

which means that he has no chance for the nomination of the GOP.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
46. He's the same guy he always was (for better or worse)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

Disaster has a way of focusing people's attention to the HERE AND NOW..

He will still be the same person he always was, with one exception. He will never again be able to trash government with the same credibility he once may have had.

I do not think he will ever be "the candidate".

He has regional appeal, and that's about it.

His potential health would always be an impediment too. He's a heart attack waiting to happen...and who knows which doofus with an "R" after their name, would be his "second".

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
48. It speaks volumes for the level of discourse in this country
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:12 PM
Nov 2012

when what Christie did is the exception and not the norm.

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