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20score

(4,769 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:54 PM Nov 2012

They Are Relentless. (And Kind of Hard to Stomach.)

Every time one starts to feel generous and forgiving towards the
other side, the depraved and cruel people in the world do something
to stir up the anger and the cycle continues. At least that’s the
way it feels. In 2008 many people felt optimistic about the future
because we elected the ‘anti-Bush’ and it looked as though we were
going to move in a smarter and more compassionate direction as a
country. That was followed immediately by the people who supported
the illegal war, deregulation and deficit exploding tax cuts that
put the country on the road to depression, yelling and screaming,
throwing things at the ill and blaming everyone but themselves for
the problems they created. Now the country has moved in a more
progressive direction once again, followed immediately by the worst
of us, let’s call them Teabaggers for the time being, defending the
indefensible. Papa John’s pizza, owned by the obscenely rich, greedy
and ostentatious John Schnatter who has a turntable for his
limousines, a castle-like mansion, his own golf course and a moat-
like structure surrounding his castle. According to a Forbes study,
Schnatter could supply health care to his employees by adding a
nickel to the cost of his pizzas and not have to cut back at all on
his King Herod life style. He refuses. He’s not alone by any means.
The CEO of Wal-Mart, Michael Duke, makes more in an hour than many of
his employees make in a year. Those employees are paid such low
wages that taxpayers are forced to help feed them and pay for their
health care. The list goes on and on. This should be a cause for
outrage as it is not only morally reprehensible, but moronically
self-destructive. Yet these Teabaggers defend the practice with the
zeal and self-righteousness usually reserved for religious fanatics.

Teabaggers, or more accurately their ideological forebears, have
always been with us. And they have always been an anchor on society.
Freeing the slaves was followed quickly by the formation of the KKK
and Jim Crow laws. (Yes, the degrees are different, but the thought
processes behind the deeds are the same.) The Renaissance kicked the
already in progress Inquisition into high gear. Martin Luther King
preached peace and fairness and was killed for his efforts. There
have always been people willing to champion sadistic and ludicrous
causes, the monikers assigned to these people may change with the
times, but the desire to punish others, even if it means making
things worse for themselves, remains a constant. And while it may be
true that many of these people may not be technically stupid in the
conventional sense of the word, their actions and words are identical
to those with less brain power and the same ideals. It’s possible that some of the people suppressing the vote in the latest election were not bigots, but outside of their immediate circle of family and friends, who cares? Same results, no matter what their motives. The same goes for those now espousing policies that keep millions of working Americans in poverty. Are they stupid or evil ideologues? Again, who cares? The burden of proof should not be, and really cannot be, on the observer to ferret out what’s in the heart or head of a stranger. Whether one advocates destructive policies because of not understanding what is truly at issue, or because one’s beliefs and ideology prevent that understanding, is irrelevant. Practically, the results are the same.

Right now the four hundred richest people in the US control as much
wealth as the bottom one hundred and fifty million. On average, each
person in that top group has as much wealth as one hundred million, five
hundred thousand people in the bottom 50% of the country’s economy.
In 1960 the average CEO made as much as forty people in his employ.
Now, depending on the source used, the average CEO makes up to four
hundred times those in his or her employ. Add to that 92% of the wealth
from our current recovery has gone to 1% of the population. As the
richest have taken more and more of the country’s wealth, the middle
class is continuing to shrink. Forty years ago one blue collar job
could support a family of five, have two cars, health care, a yearly
vacation and a pension that allowed for a retirement at sixty-five.
That is now hard to accomplish with two incomes. The trend is
obvious and it doesn’t bode well for the country. No one looks at a
third-world country with a handful of obscenely wealthy people and
millions of poor with no middle class and says, “Wow, they are doing
great. Our county should emulate their success.” Millions of people
within our borders defending and supporting policies that push our
country toward a third-world country life-style, is far more
dangerous than a few score fanatics thousands of miles away.

One Teabagger on a Facebook thread about Michael Duke’s salary said, “So what. Nothing wrong with that. They should get better jobs…Go Occupy something.” One on the Papa John’s page suggested posting pictures of those fired ‘so we could laugh at them.’ The issue isn’t with one or two maggots, it’s about millions who feel helping fellow Americans, even an iota, is now somehow un-American. They have taken the ‘us versus them’ to an extreme and it needs to stop.

All over the US Teabaggers are backing billionaires over workers, no
matter how outrageous the take is for the billionaires or how
insignificant the dent is to their incomes, when even the smallest
concession would mean the difference between living in a small
apartment or living in a vehicle. They aren’t just being bad human
beings with no compassion, they are also being bad citizens of a
country they give constant lip service to loving - every chance they get.

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20score

(4,769 posts)
2. Like that word! (Wasn't going for a Manichean theme, but now now that
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:19 PM
Nov 2012

you pointed it out...)

Anyway, you're right, the outlines seem to continue.

suede1

(892 posts)
3. Exactly! Maybe they should live on minimum wage for a year or so and see how
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

much they love their billionaires then.

20score

(4,769 posts)
4. That would oopen the eyes of some. But strangely enough,
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:07 AM
Nov 2012

some are so tied to their ideology, they would choose to suffer.

 

NeeDeep

(120 posts)
7. This took some time to write. Thanks
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:04 AM
Nov 2012

You have a good grasp of our sorry state of affairs. I couldn't help but think of how we are having to spend enormous amounts of time at the federal level fixing the shit the republicans have dine to this country (economic collapse, tax breaks for millionaires, deregulation, war etc. etc.); also how much further we would be ahead if Al Gore and John Kerry would have won their respective elections, like they should have. We now have these republicans and teabaggers poised to take retiring folks Social Security and hand it to wallstreet, and cut benefits so wallstreet can extract their 'cut'. What the fuck is wrong with these people, if we had a foreign country attacking us, I would rather that, you at least know where the enemy is. Instead we have these people on the inside eating away at us like a bunch of flesh eating zombies, who act like everything is normal, business as usual, just believe what they say, it will be alright!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. That's pretty dense, I'd put a few more carriage returns in it and break it up some
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:32 AM
Nov 2012

Your first paragraph would be better broken up into three or maybe even four and so on.

The large blocks of text are hard to read on my big monitor, when I get in the middle of one of them it's easy to lose track of which line I'm on.

How stuff looks on the page is almost more important getting people to read it than what you write, solid blocks of text are harder to read.

Try reading your piece out loud to yourself.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
12. Last caterwahling of a dying breed. THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THEM. WE WON.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:42 AM
Nov 2012

WE will restore sanity and equality to this nation.

WE will need to fight tooth and nail until 2014 and beyond to 2016 because it's going to take all that AND 4 WHOLE years of SOLID DEM houses in EVERY STATE and on Capitol Hill to set this country on it's feet again.

The US has been knocked on our collective a**, thrown face down in the mud and been violated, been slapped silly with lies and been forced to watch idiots drive US nearly off the cliff more than once, but we aren't down there in the mud cowering any more. WE WON. We are up and pissed and ready to lay siege to this anti-government destructive engine and break it down piece by piece and stuff it in the collective rethug "sun don't shine spot."


THEY WILL PAY. THEY WILL BE TARRED AND FEATHERED -- metaphorically speaking of course -- but make no mistake the error of their ways will be apparent to all who look at their fate and shudder. So much of what they have done is truly illegal and it will catch up with them and be the end of them - each and every one.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
14. These idiots think that one day they will have a castle like that too. Well guess what you dupes
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:11 AM
Nov 2012

those who have those things will make sure that types like you never ever ever have anything even a fraction like that.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
15. at least not in their neighborhoods
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:48 AM
Nov 2012

for some reason I don't think papaj would want me for a neighbor

suede1

(892 posts)
19. I've spent a good amount of time
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:36 PM
Nov 2012

trying to figure out why the teabaggers are so confused and contradictory. I hadn't considered the historical perspective until I read this. Thought provoking.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
20. Baggers exist in an insulated world; their views are never challenged by reality...
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
Nov 2012

They shun broader information sources with cult-like zeal. They think that public education is "evil," , that their president is a marxist-socialist-communist militant Muslim, that their government is going to take away their guns and put them in concentration camps, etc. -- absolute nut-job stuff. But they are insular and sealed in, impervious to information that would challenge this insanity, and maybe break it up a little.

It's a real problem, and one with no easy solution.

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