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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:14 PM Nov 2012

3rd person dies from wild mushroom poisoning at Northern California senior care facility

LOOMIS, Calif. — A third person has died from eating toxic mushrooms at a California senior care facility, authorities said Wednesday.

The person, whose name was not released, died on Saturday, state Department of Social Services spokesman Oscar Ramirez told The Associated Press.

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The caretaker who prepared the soup, who was among those sickened, apparently picked the mushrooms from the backyard of the six-bed care facility and did not know they were poisonous.

Investigators were quickly able to pinpoint the soup as the source of the poisonings because the only person living at the home who did not eat dinner that night did not fall ill, authorities have said.

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3rd person dies from wild mushroom poisoning at Northern California senior care facility (Original Post) cali Nov 2012 OP
don't EVER pick mushrooms for food unless you have a Ph.D. in Mushroom_ology Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #1
Definitely wild mushrooms. Cleita Nov 2012 #3
Mycology and you are so right. You really need to know what you're doing. cali Nov 2012 #4
There are only 2 kinds of wild mushrooms I will eat--morels & fairy rings catbyte Nov 2012 #5
puffballs are good so are the bracket fungi on the trees. loli phabay Nov 2012 #19
Puffballs are the ones that will get you XemaSab Nov 2012 #20
I never pick them unless there are large ones near. they have a distinct odor too catbyte Nov 2012 #23
It's not that hard to tell the difference if you know what you are doing Major Nikon Nov 2012 #13
I was supposed to start mushroom hunting this fall.. opiate69 Nov 2012 #15
I've been with some help Major Nikon Nov 2012 #16
Oh yeah... opiate69 Nov 2012 #37
Oh, how awful. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #2
The only wild mushrooms I'll eat are morels. They're unmistakable... Scuba Nov 2012 #6
In France, they sell all kinds of fungi fresh in street closeupready Nov 2012 #8
yes French are noted for their loose morels oldhippydude Nov 2012 #10
Oh yeah? Well a chanterelle walks into a bar, sits down and orders a drink. closeupready Nov 2012 #11
Good one. n/t tabasco Nov 2012 #26
False morels Major Nikon Nov 2012 #14
Looks nothing like a real morel. Scuba Nov 2012 #17
Better pictures Major Nikon Nov 2012 #18
The bottom pic is a morel; the top pic is something else.... Scuba Nov 2012 #21
It's that way with many different types of mushrooms Major Nikon Nov 2012 #22
I grew up eating false morels too and never got sick. Quite different, cap separate & catbyte Nov 2012 #33
Lots of people seem to be eating them with few detrimental effects Major Nikon Nov 2012 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author ElboRuum Nov 2012 #28
I love morels too BUT Berserker Nov 2012 #29
That looks like what my folks called a Beefsteak mushroom. Rarer than morels. Yum! catbyte Nov 2012 #34
Morels are Minnesota's state fungus! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #35
Great choice, like Wellstone or Franken!!! False morels would be Bachmann. Scuba Nov 2012 #40
All mushrooms are edible. Some only once. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2012 #7
tha'ts enough to anamtia myscaria oldhippydude Nov 2012 #9
Even experienced mushroom hunters die from eating the wrong kind. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #12
"The victim should be assured that the symptoms will pass." Earth_First Nov 2012 #25
I only did mushrooms once. It was weird, but yes, the symptoms did pass. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #30
There are old mushroom hunters, and bold mushroom hunters but there are no HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #31
I've heard that before and it's true. Mushroom toxins go straight for vital organs. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #32
Bleeding Tooth fungus JaneyVee Nov 2012 #24
I wouldn't go near that thing, lol catbyte Nov 2012 #36
That looks like something from DiverDave Nov 2012 #42
Why would anyone even THINK of doing this? ElboRuum Nov 2012 #27
I've found mushrooms in my yard that I was 95% sure were chantrelles Retrograde Nov 2012 #39
These where the only shrooms I would pick myself DiverDave Nov 2012 #41

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. Definitely wild mushrooms.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:20 PM
Nov 2012

Sometimes, I'm even wary of the cultivated ones you buy in the store. I really wish there were labeling laws that tell you exactly which farm they were grown on just to keep the growers honest.

catbyte

(34,398 posts)
5. There are only 2 kinds of wild mushrooms I will eat--morels & fairy rings
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nov 2012

And with fairy rings, never, ever eat a mushroom that doesn't have tan gills! Oh I do eat puffballs if they're small enough but like with fairy rings avoid golf courses etc that might dump chemicals on grass. My dad was a mushroom expert and he would bring shrooms home I would never trust myself to pick.

catbyte

(34,398 posts)
23. I never pick them unless there are large ones near. they have a distinct odor too
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:36 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know if we have Amanitas in Michigan, but I am very careful with mushrooms.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. It's not that hard to tell the difference if you know what you are doing
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:47 PM
Nov 2012

It's just that the consequences from fucking up can be quite high. There's lots of amateur wild mushroom hunters out there who have no problems whatsoever.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
15. I was supposed to start mushroom hunting this fall..
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:58 PM
Nov 2012

My friend has been a master forager for i think 30 years..but it looks like the season isn`t turning out.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
16. I've been with some help
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:10 PM
Nov 2012

It's not something I'm prepared to do on my own, but I don't think it would be that hard to learn. There are field guides which help with identification, but it doesn't strike me as something you can just learn from a book.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
37. Oh yeah...
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:07 PM
Nov 2012

I won't even so much as touch a wild mushroom unless Neal's with me saying it's good to go lol.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
8. In France, they sell all kinds of fungi fresh in street
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:27 PM
Nov 2012

markets all over the city (Paris, Lyons, other cities). Fresh morels are just delicious.

Some of them are scary looking, orange or weird shapes, but even though they sell lots of them at the markets, not sure that they have much of a problem with food poisoning such as in the opening story here.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. Oh yeah? Well a chanterelle walks into a bar, sits down and orders a drink.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

The bartender says, "We don't serve mushrooms here." The mushroom says, "Why not?! I'm a fun guy!"

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
21. The bottom pic is a morel; the top pic is something else....
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:27 PM
Nov 2012

... but it's easy to see how they could be confused.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. It's that way with many different types of mushrooms
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

If you know what to look for, indentifying the good from the bad isn't all that difficult. If you don't know what to look for, you wind up killing old people.

catbyte

(34,398 posts)
33. I grew up eating false morels too and never got sick. Quite different, cap separate &
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:40 PM
Nov 2012

stem has white cottony stuff inside. Never saw much difference between those & true morels. They taste the same too. True morels have a meatier texture. I was shocked when I read they were supposed to be poisonous.


Maybe Indians are immune?!?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
38. Lots of people seem to be eating them with few detrimental effects
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:30 PM
Nov 2012

Some of that seems to be related to tolerance and preparation, but their toxins don't appear to be completely removeable and they can kill you.

Response to Major Nikon (Reply #14)

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
29. I love morels too BUT
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nov 2012

there is a variety that is not hollow but solid inside and very slimy that look like morels. They are called false morels. But as a mushroom hunter they are easily detectible if you know what to look for.
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catbyte

(34,398 posts)
34. That looks like what my folks called a Beefsteak mushroom. Rarer than morels. Yum!
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:44 PM
Nov 2012

I don't recall that white stem tho. What my folks picked was essentially stemless.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
12. Even experienced mushroom hunters die from eating the wrong kind.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:36 PM
Nov 2012

EVERY edible mushroom has a look-alike that's poisonous. The only way to tell is by taking a spore print. Curiously, the opposite is NOT true. There's no edible look-alike for a destroying angel. One lick of a destroying angel will likely knock out your liver and kidneys. DAMN are they pretty though - I actually saw one in the woods illuminated by a sun beam. I know how it got its name now.

Even the psychotropic mushrooms have poisonous (deadly) look-alike equivalents. Still, the "Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Mushrooms" lists the psychotropics as poisonous. Symptoms include visions, hilarity, unmotivated laughter, etc. and ends with "The victim should be assured that the symptoms will pass."

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
25. "The victim should be assured that the symptoms will pass."
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:41 PM
Nov 2012

I've told myself this many late nights at a concert or two...

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
32. I've heard that before and it's true. Mushroom toxins go straight for vital organs.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

It's weird, I know, but they strike directly at the most vital organs. There's no cure. BOOM! You're dead.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
42. That looks like something from
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:04 AM
Nov 2012

an alien planet.
I expect eyelids to close over the red 'eyes'.
I'm gonna have nightmares about these things...

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
27. Why would anyone even THINK of doing this?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:01 PM
Nov 2012

"apparently picked the mushrooms from the backyard of the six-bed care facility and did not know they were poisonous"

Yes, because it is very difficult for a person untrained at identifying wild mushroom species to know which ones are poisonous and which are not. Many edible varieties bear striking similarity to poisonous ones and unless you know what you're looking for, you can easily poison yourself.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
39. I've found mushrooms in my yard that I was 95% sure were chantrelles
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:04 AM
Nov 2012

but I didn't eat them because of that nagging 5% chance they were something else entirely.

My father's uncle - raised in Poland - like wild mushrooms, and when he was in his 70s used to have me scramble under the trees to fetch the Amanitas. He showed me some of the subtle differences between the edible and poisonous kind, but I was never confident enough to try them on my own, and that was on the other side of the continent anyway.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
41. These where the only shrooms I would pick myself
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:00 AM
Nov 2012

And consume.
They grew all over the cow pastures in the Willamette valley.
We had a few FARRRRRR out parties on these little morsels







I will echo everyone else here, DONT eat mushrooms you cannot identify as safe, even if they "look sorta like" the one in the book in your hand.
Make DAMNED sure before you eat them.

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