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Hillary Clinton is, I propose, the most powerful woman the Middle East has ever witnessed. She stands, hair uncovered, Her practical pantsuit making the statement "I am following MY rules" as she leans on Egypt to broker a peace in what is, for all practical purposes, pretty similar to standing in a powder keg.
And how has this First Lady of Arkansas become the very best chance of peace in the Middle East since...well, pretty much my lifetime? Because Hillary Clinton carries an arsenal of tricks nobody has ever quite seen before. Even in the land of Cleopatra and Hatshepsut there is no match to Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton carries the weight and prestige of the Clinton Presidency. She is the First Lady to one of the most popular Presidents of all time. She has flown around the world in that role as a friend to many countries around the world. She continued that as a Senator and her husband continues to travel the world on missions of good will and kindness. Her husband still manages to be one of the more powerful political figures in the world. Every time Bill Clinton gives a speech as he did at the convention, Hillary Clinton's role in his Presidency is not far behind in our thoughts.
Hillary Clinton carries the weight and prestige of the Obama Presidency. Obama has just been re-elected in what was a pretty big blow out. His strength carried through to gains in the Senate and House. He is an amazingly popular figure around the world. He is the son of a Muslim. Hillary Clinton is his representative to broker peace. She is his equal in this process--something that has probably never happened before in the history of US Politics. The Secretary of State is as well known and as highly respected as the President of the United States, as well as the previous Democratic and equally popular President. Hillary Clinton carries the prestige of two of our greatest modern presidents in a way no other politician has been able to do. She's not an ex-Cabinet Member or a retired general from the team of an ex-president--she's Hillary freakin' Clinton.
And finally Hillary Clinton carries the weight and prestige of the very real possibility that she may be the next President of the United States. She leads in all the polls. She has an extremely high popularity rate. The world pretty much thinks she is the next President if she wants it. Never before has Secretary of State negotiated from such a position of power and probably never with such a high probability to be the next President. Does Egypt dare alienate the next President? Does Israel or Hamas? Syria? Does anyone dare piss of Hillary Clinton? Would you piss off Hillary Clinton? Good God no!
I don't know if she'll be President. I don't know if there will be peace. But I am pretty sure that I am correct when I say, that we've never had such a powerful Secretary of State. We have never seen a woman who has carried such a wide variety of strengths, prestige and sheer political power. Not only is she the most powerful woman the Middle East has ever seen, Hillary Clinton, simply put, is the most powerful woman ever. And we are so incredibly lucky she is on our side.
Don't mess with Hillary Clinton.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)she will make a great president in 2016.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)and yeah, that look can happen a lot when dealing with them. NT's are not generally people you want pissed at you.
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Michigan Alum
(335 posts)Volaris
(10,271 posts)but I would bet money that when she was was finished looking at Bibi like that, she went off somewhere and read a policy paper to keep from killing someone. It's the emotional stamina of strong-willed NT's that makes faking that level of extroversion possible; I.E., Hillary is the type of person who can WILL herself to like people who are not as smart as she is (and I bet a lot of the time, that's EXACTLY how she sees it heehee). What our President seems to naturally have, she WORKS to pull off. That she is damn-near his equal in that particular skill-set department is a testament to just how strong her will really is.
Again, NOT someone you want mad at you lol.
murielm99
(30,742 posts)Introverts have to work extra hard to be out there working with people, especially people who are unlike them. She has to find common interests and needs with them.
Introverts have to think about these things, even in their daily lives. It would be easier to sit home and read a book. I don't think anyone but an introvert could do this well.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'd like to introduce to you the next President of the United States of America. The first Woman President I might add.
You go girl we love you out here in flyover country
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I suppose Golda Meir was a powerful M.E. woman in her time, too, as PM of Israel.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Shame on me for leaving her out.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)But of them all, and others, I agree that Hillary stands on the top of the mountain!
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Eleanor of Aquitaine:
Daughter of royalty
Duchess of Aquitaine (at the time, more powerful than the whole country of France)
Countess of Poitiers
Queen of France
Queen of England
Mother of 10 children, including two kings and a queen
International traveler, even into her 80s
Leader of a revolution
Founder of a convent
Champion of women
Champion of education
and much more
She was seldom without a book in her hands
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)and I agree 1000%
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Always nice to see new names :0)
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Bibi, for his part, looks like he'd enjoy it.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Kissinger was far more respected and listened too than Nixon.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)I don't think she will run in 2016 but don't tell anyone.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)She would kick ass.
MFM008
(19,814 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)ananda
(28,865 posts)With Elizabeth Warren as her VP!
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)She has earned every bit of praise you heap upon her and more.
She has certainly made a mark on the history of this nation and the world.
I will always wish her the best.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Maybe the most powerful woman in recent memory. Just sayin' is all: honestly, I've had a crush on her since she was the wife of some hick-state governor.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I always liked her but the way she dealt with the whole Monica thing--well, it earned my 100% support and respect. It took me quite a while to forgive Obama for knocking her down. I'm just hoping her age doesn't hold her back. She's earned the right to retire, for sure, but it may be a long time until a woman like her steps up to run. And what future woman candidate will have the support of Bill and Obama as well as the prestige of their presidencies?
juajen
(8,515 posts)they put us in. I will never forget her marching out of the White House with a subdued Bill on one side and her daughter on the other. I believe she is planning on running, or she would have stayed SOS for another term. Even though it is unbelievably tiring, it is obvious that she loves it. How lucky we are to have the collective talent of so many democrats. Obviously, there is a dearth of talent on the other sides. If the republicans are smart enough to run John Huntsman, we will see a race, however.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)"Would you piss off Hillary Clinton? Good God no!"
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Wow, Hillary and Elizabeth, then Spitzer as.. AG ,he kicked ass here in NY as AG, Mr Wookie wanderings or not, and for god sake get Howard Dean back somewhere, And with William Jefferson and Barack Hussein in the "wings", or... what a team...
In-2008 ?- I campaigned for Eric Massa for the house in what was then the NY 29th dist-- a repub stronghold , and Eric won, (Of course that didn't last too long, but-) He was a real powerhouse, former Naval Commander, disaffected repub..He cleaned the floor with his opponent using facts, experience and in your face, "don't mess with me, dude." ...
I was at a fundraiser for him and met, Hillary Clinton, Eric Spitzer and Howard Dean.. plus Massa was there.. The vibe in the place was.. palpable...and i felt these were "the good guys."
Well, maybe as good as they can get...
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Seriously, do you really know so little about the political history of women in the region to hand such a title to Clinton?
PB
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Sorry..but: "We Came, We Saw, He Died" with a deep cackling chuckle did it for me...
SOS is a role for a Diplomat not someone who chuckles and makes a remark like that about the death of a Terrorist who didn't have a fair trial so that we knew what his thoughts were or if the accusations against him were true that he single handedly mastermined "9/11."
I find her harsh and undiplomatic in a time when diplomacy is sorely needed.
But...I realize I'm alone in my thoughts about her.
Alamuti Lotus
(3,093 posts)Aisha bint Abu Bakr may have held slightly more clout than Hillary, but I suppose modern attention spans allow for a small breadth of criteria for "best ever" lists.
As for the hagiography above--laughably myopic, but again to be expected and if it wasn't for your brilliant phraseology, I might have passed this dreck without notice.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)That post would have a lot more meat on the bone if you actually offered evidence instead of "You're wrong," followed by a (oh so typical) exit.
I'm here. Hit me. Why is the OP wrong?
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,009 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)I should have mentioned her in my OP. I still think that Clinton carries a wider, different kind of power that is so broad and bigger than the usual politician and leaders. Part of that might be smoke and mirrors due to the cachet she gains as a possible president. But until she doesn't actually throw her hat in the ring she gets to carry some of that mystery and potential power.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)Peregrine
(992 posts)She took Israel through Black September and the Yom Kippur war.
For the palestinian apologists on DU, Black September was when the oppressed Palestinian freedom fighters expressed their suffering the only way those fascist isreal leaders would allow them. This and hijacking airplanes and blowing them up or killing the oppressor passengers with isreali passports.
luvsolja
(3 posts)Golda Meir was the most feared and at the same time respected woman the Middle East has seen.
luvsolja
(3 posts)Golda Meir was the most feared and at the same time respected woman the Middle East has seen.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Oh, look. ABC just showed a video of a dead "Israeli collaborator" being dragged thru the Gaza streets by the jubilant people celebrating rockets hitting Jerusalem.
Just like last time, Hamas is conducting a purge of its own people. Being great respecters of life and all.
SteveG
(3,109 posts)(disclaimer - I think the Big Dog was a great President, I think he was exactly what the nation needed. He made mistakes, both politically, economically and personally. But he was a great President and will go down in the history books as a great man) if that was the look he got when she found out about Monica?. Bibi is looking very submissively at her, making sure he knows his cue's.
sasha031
(6,700 posts)Thank you for your observation & excellent piece DonRedwood
Yes that pic is amazing.
Hillary will go down in history as the best Secretary of State we have ever had.
I hate the idea that she's retiring, hoping that she will run in 2016.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)not to mention:
Only 12 women CEOs, or 2.4%, feature on the Fortune Global 500 companies in 2012, albeit in some of the most powerful organisations.
A quick comparison between global and regional surveys shows that, in the region, 14 Arab women take to the helm of their burgeoning companies as CEOs vs. the 12 global CEOS.
http://www.ameinfo.com/arab-women-ceos-par-global-counterparts-318170
not to mention the various powerful middle eastern women of more distant history?
get a grip on the hillary love.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)across borders and political parties. The Clintons are popular in a way internationally that is pretty rare. That is important when you are talking about swaying public opinion towards peace negotiations.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)i don't think clinton is a particularly beloved figure in a lot of the world, no.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)And that's even taking into account the general tendency of DUers to be highly dismissive of foreigners in general.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)babylonsister
(171,066 posts)Alamuti Lotus
(3,093 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I'm proud of her, too.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Absolutely formidable. I really don't see who will effectively replace her.
demhottie
(292 posts)she serves at the will of the president. History has many great queens, empresses and Pharaohs with vast powers that simply cannot be compared to being an emissary.
I like and respect Hilary Clinton, but being married to one president and serving another does not make her the most powerful woman ever.
Let's talk again after she's elected in 2016 ...
heaven05
(18,124 posts)speaks volumes. Nope, she's no pushover. I'd vote for her. Dr. Warren also. I really respect the raw intelligence of Warren especially after watching her debates with that brown character.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Golda Meir as was previously mentioned for the modern era. You could also throw in Benazir Bhutto from Pakistan.
Going far back, there were also a few in the dark ages.
Going back to ancient times there were many powerful and influential women. Cleopatra and Hatshepsut ruled an empire. And Nefertiti helped lead a religious revolution.
I think the woman would have to be from that region to have a chance to top any of these women. You can't change societies from the outside.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Wife of Justinian the Great and some say the real power behind the throne.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)her.
The potential president would also be the potential leader of the US military. I didn't state it in my essay, but that alone makes her more powerful in many ways. She is what, Fourth in line to the Presidency as it is, isn't she?
Deep13
(39,154 posts)...has expressed an interest in retiring from public life. I know some are skeptical of that, but she's 65 and will be 69 in four years, so I think she will retire. I don't think she wants to be in office until she's 77.
Anyway, Theodora was an actual Middle Eastern ruler living in what is today Istanbul. By the standards of the day, she and Justinian were pretty powerful.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)She's ditched the "take me seriously" hairdo for the "I'm younger than you think I am" style, now that she's been taken seriously.
I have no doubt whatsoever that she will run in 2016. She needs to hope that the truce holds throughout the rest of the time she's SoS.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)...based on what her hair looks like. If successful, she will be the same age as Reagan when he took office.
Revlon10
(177 posts)Just google Hillary Clinton and slavery in Haiti, she's forcing Haitians to work for pennies for Walmart. I'm done with her. I remember her dirty tricks in 2008. Remember how she wanted to blow them up, in the middle east. How quick we forget.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)I'm not aware of that one.
Revlon10
(177 posts)She's hooking up her old friends at Walmart with slave labor. After propping up a puppet presedent, and blocking real democracy in the Haitian elections. And people wonder why Haiti can't get it together.
Cerridwen
(13,258 posts)I did find several of your previous posts on DU asserting the same; with as much evidence as you have provided here.
The link you provided downthread, with nothing included, goes to an expired website. It expired Nov 21, 2012. Too bad you couldn't have included a couple of paragraphs with the link.
I spent several years in the real world pushing back against the unfounded rumors and outright lies against the Clintons. I tend to view any statement about either of them that doesn't include reliable, verifiable, and honest facts, to be so much bullshit.
Please provide reliable, verifiable, and honest facts to back up your assertion.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....But she's certainly doing her best to get us out. She's also doing a very good job helping to keep the rest of the Middle East from going completely crazy and killing each other.
Just curious, but where did you get that "Hilary Clinton and slavery in Haiti" topic? Do you have a link or two to share with the rest of us?
Revlon10
(177 posts)The opened the factory last month.
http://www.haitian-truth.org/slavery-returns-to-haiti-0-62-per-hour-factory-jobs-in-haiti-not-perfect-but-a-start-for-recovery-clinton-says/
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)LOL
That is a funny picture
James48
(4,436 posts)Alamuti Lotus
(3,093 posts)unfortunately, that's probably not even true--but somewhere within the employed artistic license for minor fact-boners, my point resides.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Michigan Alum
(335 posts)Why such a hater? I don't get it?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I'm often struck with the idea that what we're living now is going to be one of those pivotal times in American History when something very important impacts the future. Like FDR and WWII and the New Deal and the GI Bill. That time changed everything profoundly and history took a different path.
I think we're living one of those times. President Obama will be one of those Presidents who everyone will know about, like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, FDR and JFK. And Hillary Clinton will be as famous, even if she never does anything again. But I suspect she'll stay involved. She could easily become our next President.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)Hubby keeps saying it, and I have to admit the idea is growing on me.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I hardly even dare to think about it because it's just too good.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Hekate
(90,708 posts)I don't know about the rest of the Rodham family, but that bodes well for Hillary's longevity. She's what? 63?
That's unlike Bill Clinton's family history. There was a poignant moment years ago where an interviewer asked him if he planned on an old age like Jimmy Carter's, full of good works and managing his foundations. Bill said (and obviously I'm paraphrasing), "Actually no, because no one in my family ever lives that long; whatever I want to do, I have to do NOW."
Hekate
antigop
(12,778 posts)Hekate
(90,708 posts)It's not much in use any more, but when you find it it's a treasure.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Alfuso
(3 posts)"You don't want to make me come back here again."
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)marmar
(77,081 posts)..... and a woman from the West is the most powerful ever to "grace" them with her presence? That's actually quite offensive.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)wtmusic
(39,166 posts)Why there's....um...and there's....(I'll get back to you in 2015).
antigop
(12,778 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)which was President Obama's voters.
She would have easily defeated McCain too but Obama did
and now in 2016, she will have President's CORE voters who will be in the millions and give her the victory, and the order is better this way
Being 45 instead of 44 (and Hillary would have had everything thrown at her except the birther and black issue) that Obama did
This way allowed her to have the single greatest resume of perhaps anyone alive in politics on a top level today.
There is no one more qualified to be President.
And destiny will show that was what the people wanted in 2016.
Not to mention it is our moral right and need to elect a woman president.
(after 43 same old same old, we never can go back, only forward with historical choices from here on out)
And I want to state again- I was most certianly NOT a fan in 2008. She got my vote the old fashioned way- SHE EARNED IT.
And it would be great if she got a Nobel Peace Prize. Just to annoy the republicans who hate those things because they never win them.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)n/t
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)And unless Michelle runs this time there is IMHO no one else who will get it.
I predict Michelle in 2024 or possibly she will be named to the US Supreme Court and sit side by side with Chief Justice Obama for 30 years.
antigop
(12,778 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)I really do. everything you write is so over the top it's like a caricature of what some tea party idiot thinks a liberal thinks. Michelle Obama for president? based on what exactly? she's a nice lady but i don't believe she any political experience or even inclination that way.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and much like Hillary become President 46 after Hillary45.
or become a supreme court justice.
We still need a replacement or two for Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas was NOT the one
but actually, the point I was making is it's Hillary and NO one else with her qualifications exists in this world.
antigop
(12,778 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I hope she wins the Nobel prize. Before she is #45.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Read her own words.
antigop
(12,778 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)in 2016, with Barack Obama's 100% undivided support, Hillary will have enough to win the general election over Jeb Bush or Chriis Christie or anyone who's name is not Barack Obama.
It is quite simple.
Hillary came in 2nd to Obama. She is not disqualified from running just because she was not the candidate last time.
She did not (like say Russ Feingold or Bill Bradley stalk away with the ball and whine she wasn't picked.
She took the hardest job other than president in the world, and has done a simply wonderful job.
In doing so, she has earned MY vote, which she did not have in2008. She has it now.
And when she announces, the others either won't run or will be fighting for second.
(And most won't run against her, and most others will get a call from Obama advising them he would support her.)
The rationale for 2016 is different than 2008 anyhow.
What is needed is IMHO a continuation of President Obama's agenda, and mostly, the two are in synch with each other.
And if you recall, President Clinton gave his all in the general election this year.
Hillary also brings in the rural vote Obama didn't have.
I can see Hillary getting 450 electoral votes with Obama and Axelrod and Plouffe all working for the same goal.
And I see President Hillary being far more liberal than Bill was. Her victory will enable that as will a solid liberal senate being led by Warren and Kerry.
And should Gov. Castro of Texas turn it blue, what states will Republicans win?
not very many.
And that will keep the presidency in the Democratic hands for 8 more years (til Jan.2025).
By that time the court will be 8 to 1 if not 9 to 0.
What could be better?
as said, I was NOT a fan in 2008.(and mostly it was listening to people I thought were liberals who were most certainly not it turned out to be). But, I am now.
(so you cannot call me a Hillary groupie).
And isn't it the way it is suppose to be? A person who's vote is earned by a voter?
antigop
(12,778 posts)n/t
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)..everything you said, DonRedwood. And the attached photo is priceless. Anybody who can make Bibi shut up for a minute has my vote. She's got his number!
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)What about Golda Maeir? (I'm pretty sure I butchered the spelling)
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)except for some baseless fawning.
She was an Iraq war architect and though she's been an effective SOS, she's unproven as a leader (except in investigating violence in video games).
If she is the Democratic nominee in 2016, we will lose.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Yep. The CEOS and shareholders have "benefitted" from outsourcing. The workers get screwed.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)before arab spring blew up egypt and brought in the fundies.
and some of them go bare-headed.
note the woman 4th from right on this panel for the national democratic party (egypt's leading party)
or these egyptian women lined up to vote:
the op rubs me the wrong way as it seems to present hilary as some "great white hope" who will show the poor beknighted middle eastern women what a 'powerful' woman looks like.
well piss on that. they know what powerful women look like; they have their own models.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)however I prefer her hair shorter not in a long pony tail.
LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)Would like to see a face framing style on her.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Or, take a look at Mohammed's wives.
Khadija bint Khuwaylid:
Long before he got into religion, this powerful merchant was Mohammed's EMPLOYER, his BOSS! She had been married twice before, and was ALREADY one of the more powerful women in the Mid-East, long before her new, younger husband started having religious visions. She supported him, and is even called "the first Muslim", and her power helped keep Muhammad alive long enough to actually get strong. Of course, the investment proved good, as her young new husband did wind up conquering the Mid East.
Or let's look at another wife
Safiyya bint Huyayy: A Jewish woman that married Mohammed. The other wives teased her, only to be rebuked by Mohammed himself. She was heavy into politics, supporting a caliph against a siege.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)A ceasefire less than 24 hours old and yet to be tested. There have been no peace talks or policy changes announced by the belligerents which give any hope for a lasting peace in the region. I am grateful for her efforts, but I'm not going to endorse any hero worship today.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I don't like that word. The people should have the power, not one person, male or female.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)This ceasefire may not hold but SOS Clinton has gotten Egypt to take a major roll in seeing that it does.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Former Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion used to call Meir "the best man in the government".
Give me FUCKING BREAK.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Hillary may have power, but Meir had more influence.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)ya don`t with methodist women.....!
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And posted it on Facebook the other day. Both expressions are priceless. Netenyahu looks to be reeling backwards with an expression of "do you know who you are talking to". Bibi looks like Romney did after Candy Crowley fact checked him in the 2nd debate.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)We are truly blessed to have her serve in that capacity. I do hope she has some desire and energy to run for President one day, because she would make us proud. I'm not sure that she would be as committed to the middle class as President Obama is and has been, but she would certainly be a strong leader of State and someone to be proud of.
shireen
(8,333 posts)admiring her when she ran for president, and now, to being totally in awe of her. She has been absolutely amazing as SOS.
I like Bill but am not crazy about him like some people. But Hillary, wow ... she's a treasure. I'll be sorry to see her step down as SOS but happy that she'll finally get some well-earned rest. If she decides to run for 2016, i'll totally support her.
Thanks, Hillary.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Yet, few if any Congress people say anything against her or question her creds when it comes to Benghazi. That says a lot about whom they really want to BLAME...
Don't get me wrong, I love Sec. Clinton and her difficult work as Sec of State. But let's deal with reality. Congress is responsible for cutting funds to the State Department and Clinton is responsible for the decisions that affect the daily safety and operations of our consulates around the world, not Ambassador Rice. If the President made the decision to have Amb. Rice speak publicly about Benghazi then he made a poor decision. It should have been Hillary front and center at all times.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)like a pantsuit and a bare head are totally her own invention, nothing to do with the culture and time she was born into, her role as SOS, and the 'message' she wants to send in that role.
not to mention the whole culturally-determined thing about dress as a measure of one's 'individuality' and 'personality'.
because in a mass commodified society, there is precious little other way to distinguish between people or have individual autonomy.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)It'll knock your socks off.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That said, for this era, Clinton has prestige, power, purpose and persistence. She is most impressive.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I hate hyperbole!!!!
malaise
(269,024 posts)Don;t fugg Bibi!
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)I am very impressed! Thank you for your insightful original post, DonRedwood. I will share this, if you don't mind.
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WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Since there are always crises, I wish she would stay on as SOS. The world listens to Clinton.
Tumbulu
(6,278 posts)that she will be able to do something in this region. She is retiring, though, right?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)She's great..but to suggest an entire region of people had to wait for all of recorded history for some white Christian, American female to come and show them what a strong woman is?
That's astounding.
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)I thank you
macacawitz
(19 posts)......and ran into Pope Ratso. He said it was the Virgin Mary.
Dalai_1
(1,301 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)SOS is a role for a Diplomat not someone who chuckles and makes a remark like that about the death of a Terrorist who didn't have a fair trial so that we knew what his thoughts were or if the accusations against him were true that he single handedly mastermined "9/11."
I find her harsh and undiplomatic in a time when diplomacy is sorely needed.
But...I realize I'm alone in my thoughts about her.