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FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:08 PM Feb 10

New York Times "full frontal assault" on Biden. They want Trump to win. They have made it very clear.

Let's accept it.

We're in a war on multiple fronts.

We are in a war against the Nazi pigs in the GOP.

We are at war with much of the mainstream press.

And yes, I know that I will get people defending the Times here, but I don't care.

They are wrong and I am right.

It's been going on for years.

Remember the Bush years and Judith Miller?

Ever read how the New York Times thought Hitler wasn't that bad?

Evan Sutton
@3vanSutton
The @nytimes
full frontal assault on Biden, based on the unverifiable claims of a partisan prosecutor, is one more example of how our elite media is in the tank for Trump. And it was all made inevitable when Merrick Garland handed the GOP this gift on a silver platter.






Greg Sargent
@GregTSargent
Today's NYT talks to experts who say Hur's claims about Biden's memory are hard to verify.

So does that mean NYT regrets yesterday's news analysis hyping those claims?

As I argue below, these analysis pieces are *choices.* There are better ones:





southpaw
@nycsouthpaw
suited up the whole squad








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New York Times "full frontal assault" on Biden. They want Trump to win. They have made it very clear. (Original Post) FelineOverlord Feb 10 OP
Peter Baker is pissed Biden won't give the NYT an interview BeyondGeography Feb 10 #1
Exactly FelineOverlord Feb 10 #4
Yep. Their egos are bruised. They dictate the discourse, gosh darn it. shrike3 Feb 10 #11
Peter Baker. Is notorious for his bothsiderisms. As for The NY Times, JohnSJ Feb 10 #12
There's a lot of anger on Twitter FelineOverlord Feb 10 #2
They stopped getting my money a long time ago and they never will get it again! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 10 #3
The same paper that manufactured the Hillary email scandal and amplified it throughout the campaign dalton99a Feb 10 #5
They all want Trump back. I think they find Biden "boring." FelineOverlord Feb 10 #6
This...this... and always THIS! FalloutShelter Feb 10 #15
They're not going to stop. We must go nuclear on the press. It's not just The New York Times. FelineOverlord Feb 10 #7
+1. Silence is not an option. dalton99a Feb 10 #9
This is "but her emails" all over again........... no one should be surprised Takket Feb 10 #8
They will be one of the first news organizations multigraincracker Feb 10 #10
No he won't. They will cave in to pushing his narrative JohnSJ Feb 10 #14
+1. Maggie Haberman has been doing it for years. dalton99a Feb 10 #16
Because they weren't invited to Naomi Biden's wedding, they want to destroy democracy. FelineOverlord Feb 10 #13
That was one of the silliest things I've ever seen. shrike3 Feb 10 #18
Ole Droopy Eyed Ashley Parker Prairie Gates Feb 10 #26
I don't give a dime to the NYT. yardwork Feb 10 #17
Hit pieces orangecrush Feb 10 #19
How low can you go, NYT? Paladin Feb 10 #20
I take those two with a grain of salt. The NYT has other columnists who are liberal. I read all opinion columns in the CTyankee Feb 10 #23
You are clearly a better person than I am. (nt) Paladin Feb 10 #42
No, just probably older. Seen too much to be really impressed. But I am very worried about lots of things going on...the CTyankee Feb 10 #43
+1 dalton99a Feb 10 #36
The owners of most of the corporate media are .01% ers who would joyfully embrace fascism if it lowered diane in sf Feb 10 #21
+1. dalton99a Feb 10 #28
They would embrace slavery. John Shaft Feb 10 #39
Good thing most young people don't read the times or watch TV for their information. diane in sf Feb 10 #22
They want to remain a neutral party in the war between democracy and authoritarianism. hay rick Feb 10 #24
Neutrality in the war between... Think. Again. Feb 10 #33
Corporate press is worse than useless, because they're not inert, they're actively inflicting harm. chia Feb 10 #25
Fabulous Warrior Thread, Feline! THANK YOU! ancianita Feb 10 #27
I notice I never see Parker on MSNBC anymore, cilla4progress Feb 10 #29
Hur's Observations Are Beyond The Scope Of His Work DallasNE Feb 10 #30
Exactly why his report... Think. Again. Feb 10 #34
And when Trump was in office "The Lying New York Times" AkFemDem Feb 10 #31
the Times is a rag. I wouldn't wipe my ass with it The Unmitigated Gall Feb 10 #32
You are right and they are wrong senseandsensibility Feb 10 #35
The NYT has ticked me off so badly that I've just done an Act Blue monthly subscription to the Biden campaign. diane in sf Feb 10 #37
The saddest part... GiqueCee Feb 10 #38
Why wouldn't the Republican Owned Media push their agenda and candidate? live love laugh Feb 10 #40
Ugh this is so damn disgusting. Initech Feb 10 #41

BeyondGeography

(39,392 posts)
1. Peter Baker is pissed Biden won't give the NYT an interview
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:11 PM
Feb 10

Thing is, even if he sat for one and handled it fine it wouldn’t make a difference in their coverage IMO.

JohnSJ

(92,488 posts)
12. Peter Baker. Is notorious for his bothsiderisms. As for The NY Times,
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:39 PM
Feb 10

after what they did to Hillary, the Iraq WMDs, blaming the “hubris of Obama” for republicans rejecting global warming, I think they have made it clear where they are coming from.

FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
2. There's a lot of anger on Twitter
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:11 PM
Feb 10

Olga Lautman 🇺🇦
@OlgaNYC1211
Focus: Russian intel ops, Eastern Europe. Senior Fellow @CEPA
Co-host @kremlinfile
podcast Director @SyriaUkraineSUN
Senior investigative researcher @IEI_ngo


Olga Lautman 🇺🇦
@OlgaNYC1211
·

Maybe Biden can get in the good graces of US media by carrying out a violent insurrection, being owned by the Kremlin, and promising to be a dictator. Then just maybe he might be as young and coherent as Trump 🤦🏼‍♀️

It’s surreal watching this amplification and excitement over Trump after what we have witnessed the past several years while seeing the nonstop attacks on Biden’s age



dalton99a

(81,663 posts)
5. The same paper that manufactured the Hillary email scandal and amplified it throughout the campaign
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:17 PM
Feb 10




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And before that: Whitewater, Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction, etc. etc.

There is a long tradition







FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
6. They all want Trump back. I think they find Biden "boring."
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:17 PM
Feb 10
Susan 🌻🐱🐙🌈🌊🟧🟦
@MorashSusan
·

Agreed, Delanian and Baker were both awful this morning...who are they playing to?


🧚‍♂️🐉Martha Mallory👁🌛🌝🌜🌊
@marthamallory1
They want trump back. They want the money, the access, the leaks, the clicks, the book deals,,,he made money for them. They don't give a shit if he was good for the country. He was good for their bank account.




FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
7. They're not going to stop. We must go nuclear on the press. It's not just The New York Times.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:21 PM
Feb 10
Susan 🌻🐱🐙🌈🌊🟧🟦
@MorashSusan
·
Shame on you, Katie Tur on @MSNBC just now, for implying that special counsel felt he needed to add that memory crap in the report because maybe he saw something worse and felt the need to warn the country...are you freaking kidding me?

🧚‍♂️🐉Martha Mallory👁🌛🌝🌜🌊
@marthamallory1

She's not going to stop. Ken Dilanian isn't going to stop. Andrea Mitchell is not going to stop. Ashley Parker is not going to stop. Peter Baker is not going to stop. I'm not playing nice on the high road anymore. They WILL get named and shamed. Repeatedly. Being nice didn't work



FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
13. Because they weren't invited to Naomi Biden's wedding, they want to destroy democracy.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:39 PM
Feb 10

Ashley Parker and others are still salty that they weren't invited to Naomi Biden's wedding in 2022.

A private event.

They feel SO entitled.

They are willing to overturn democracy because they were butt-hurt about it.

D. Earl Stephens
@EarlOfEnough
📌The way political reporters (hacks) Maggie Haberman, Ashley Parker etc. are carrying on right now, Naomi Biden’s refusal to allow them to cover her wedding looks pretty good right now.

📌And a question: Do these people report to anybody in their newsroom????





NoChillMood
@ritaag
Ashley Parker: it’s outrageous that the WHPC didnt get to taste the wedding cake of Naomi Biden … its about National security !!!😡





Gemini ♊️ Vibes
@DeniseMforReal
Never forget Ashley Parker was salty as fukk





Lynx 💛
@LustrousLynx
·
Nov 23, 2022
Whoopi dragging @AshleyRParker
: “You weren’t invited to the Biden wedding, get over it. Sometimes people don’t want you at their wedding” 🤭🤭🤭 #TheView

Lovehersports50
@lovehersports50
And sadly, Ashley is not the only whiner on this.
@maggieNYT
@seungminkim
a Bloomberg reporter and a Daily Mail reporter. None is a society page reporter.
The family did not lie. Grow up people.



Prairie Gates

(1,085 posts)
26. Ole Droopy Eyed Ashley Parker
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:13 PM
Feb 10

During the Trump administration she specialized at looking shocked at press conferences, then going on The Shows and explaining how every Trump outrage was actually a brilliant strategy.

She's sincerely a bad person.

Paladin

(28,281 posts)
20. How low can you go, NYT?
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:29 PM
Feb 10

Special pains deserved by Maureen Dowd and Ross Douthat, whose current columns amount to nothing more than gleefully and prematurely excavating President Biden's grave. I keep thinking a once-great newspaper can't deteriorate any further---and the NYT opinion section keeps proving me wrong, on a regular basis. Disgusting and shameful.

CTyankee

(63,922 posts)
23. I take those two with a grain of salt. The NYT has other columnists who are liberal. I read all opinion columns in the
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:58 PM
Feb 10

NYT and I like it. Douthat and Dowd don't bother me. I can read their columns and brush off what I feel they have misrepresented. I like reading what they have to say on a given subject and can make up my mind as to their bias. I kinda know what they are going to say at the outset, but sometimes I see cracks in their arguments that are laughable. So I laugh and come on DU and get a lot of in depth articles and rebuttals. I enjoy the repartee.

CTyankee

(63,922 posts)
43. No, just probably older. Seen too much to be really impressed. But I am very worried about lots of things going on...the
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 09:32 PM
Feb 10

welcoming of Trumpism by so many Americans can lead to disastrous results which is why I come here every day. It's the gas in my car. I keep abreast of the issues. And I really do want to make a difference and I feel the folks here at DU are trying just like me to make our world a better place (and I know that sounds trite).

diane in sf

(3,919 posts)
21. The owners of most of the corporate media are .01% ers who would joyfully embrace fascism if it lowered
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:37 PM
Feb 10

their taxes, got rid of regulations, made the cost of labor cheaper, and kept the peasants in line.

Our current crop of corrupt billionaires are no better than the ones that helped Hitler rise in the 1930s.

hay rick

(7,651 posts)
24. They want to remain a neutral party in the war between democracy and authoritarianism.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:01 PM
Feb 10

If neutrality requires pushing false equivalence on the mental and psychological fitness of the two candidates- they can do that.

chia

(2,244 posts)
25. Corporate press is worse than useless, because they're not inert, they're actively inflicting harm.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:12 PM
Feb 10

I've given up on all but some select independent journalists and outlets.

ancianita

(36,192 posts)
27. Fabulous Warrior Thread, Feline! THANK YOU!
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:17 PM
Feb 10

Media horse race disinformation history matters!!

KEEP UP THE FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT! YOU'RE THE GREATEST!

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
30. Hur's Observations Are Beyond The Scope Of His Work
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 10

Hur is also unqualified to conclude on the meaning of what he observed because his education and training is not in those areas. There need to be warnings that these claims by Hur cannot be independently verified and should be ignored. I would think that a lapse like this should interest the Bar Association.

Think. Again.

(8,636 posts)
34. Exactly why his report...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:36 PM
Feb 10

...should not have been accepted by garland. It was not a legitimate report on the question of criminality in Biden's handling of documents, which was the only mandate.

If garland needed to find another SC to do the required task with acceptable professionalism, so be it, start over.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
31. And when Trump was in office "The Lying New York Times"
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:28 PM
Feb 10

were "out of control", "fake news", "the failing NYT", and quote- "the enemy of the American people".

It seems to me that the NYT has a very long history of focusing first on the incumbent, and second on the competition. They report primarily on the person who is currently sitting in office- and typically that reporting will be critical in nature. Editorials in particular will take an opposing POV persuasive stance. In the last election cycle, this benefitted Biden and harmed Trump. This election cycle will accomplish the opposite result. That said, I have not seen any warming toward Trump himself or an embrace of his policies from the NYT staff.

The questions raised by the NYT regarding Biden's age and health are not unreasonable imo although they do, no doubt, hurt his campaign. They're not questions asked in a vacuum though- they reflect the questions and concerns of their readers and Biden's constituents. Does this kind of coverage amplify those concerns and risk spreading fears about his age? Yes, yes of course. Is that frustrating if someone is either a Biden fan or a Trump opponent who favors another candidate? Yes, yes of course. Does this meet the test of "wanting Trump to win"? No, no of course not.

The NYT will continue to pursue and print articles that 1. reflect the common concerns of its readers 2. amplify public discussion about important topics, and 3. are sensational enough to sell papers. We're not always going to like what those articles say.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,837 posts)
32. the Times is a rag. I wouldn't wipe my ass with it
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:29 PM
Feb 10

Much less subscribe.

Dropped my subscription back in the Judith Miller days.

senseandsensibility

(17,197 posts)
35. You are right and they are wrong
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:44 PM
Feb 10

Exactly. Anyone who defends the NYT is not being objective. They have, as you point out, proven their bias over and over again. Judith Miller and how they treated Hillary are only two examples. Can one point to exceptions? Of course, but the overall tenor of their coverage is very anti Dem and has been for decades. I'm glad you are calling them out.

diane in sf

(3,919 posts)
37. The NYT has ticked me off so badly that I've just done an Act Blue monthly subscription to the Biden campaign.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:06 PM
Feb 10

I look forward to receiving my mug.

GiqueCee

(644 posts)
38. The saddest part...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:08 PM
Feb 10

... is that one of Trump's favorite insults has finally been proven to be true: This really IS the "failing" New York Times. The "Paper of Record" is failing the American people in an obscene display of undeserved favoritism toward a third-string Hitler wannabe. We have cancelled our subscription. I wouldn't wipe my butt with the New York Times. And not because I'd get printing ink all over myself.

live love laugh

(13,181 posts)
40. Why wouldn't the Republican Owned Media push their agenda and candidate?
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 06:20 PM
Feb 10

Smelvis shouldn’t even be in the running yet here he is bouyed and bolstered by the ROM.

Initech

(100,123 posts)
41. Ugh this is so damn disgusting.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 06:28 PM
Feb 10

We don't want Trump! Stop trying to force him and his fascist bullshit on us! He should be rotting in prison. January 6th should have been the end of it.

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