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My fear for this country (Original Post) apcalc Feb 2024 OP
I think... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #1
Trump and many of the GOP leaders are already beholden to Putin. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #2
I don't understand this fear NJCher Feb 2024 #3
There was certainly no guarantee when Putin threw resources at tsf's 2016 campaign either. That didn't stop him. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #5
He's not in the same condition NJCher Feb 2024 #6
He is on the tracks to be the Republican nominee, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #10
Trump delivered to Saudi Arabia, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #9
What president doesn't sell them military equipment? former9thward Feb 2024 #12
It usually goes through Congress, right? gab13by13 Feb 2024 #14
So? former9thward Feb 2024 #17
Quid pro quo gab13by13 Feb 2024 #19
No, both parties are not the same. former9thward Feb 2024 #20
They will get something for their money from TFG for sure. apcalc Feb 2024 #16
One way or another, he will. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #4
Good for you NJCher Feb 2024 #7
Wow. That's quite gratuitously snotty. You have a lovely day, now. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #8
Trump has already delivered to Saudi Arabia and Russia, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #11
Of course. And Putin is going to rat-fuck his way through this election like he did the last one. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #13
It will be way worse than 2016 gab13by13 Feb 2024 #15
What's to believe? It could certainly happen. apcalc Feb 2024 #18
there are some real practical concerns here NJCher Feb 2024 #21
The writer of the article indicates several prosecutors ( didja read it?) think it could. It isn't out of the question. apcalc Feb 2024 #22
overseer NJCher Feb 2024 #23
So you don't think Putin/Trump will find a way around it apcalc Feb 2024 #24

2naSalit

(87,128 posts)
1. I think...
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:07 AM
Feb 2024

It's one or a collection of those suggested, they will foot the bill for him. You'll be able to tell when he doesn't sell off his holdings to put up the bond(s) for appeal.

We'll see soon enough. The overseer of his affairs will know.

Irish_Dem

(48,777 posts)
2. Trump and many of the GOP leaders are already beholden to Putin.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:10 AM
Feb 2024

But yes Trump is vulnerable to a great deal more corruption now.

Of course he will take money from our enemies.

NJCher

(35,895 posts)
3. I don't understand this fear
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:25 AM
Feb 2024

There’s no guarantee whatsoever that he’ll be able to deliver the goods on any such deal. These people like Putin and musk might be evil and corrupt, but they want something for their money. They’re as tuned into how demented and crazy he is as we are.

Scrivener7

(51,118 posts)
5. There was certainly no guarantee when Putin threw resources at tsf's 2016 campaign either. That didn't stop him.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:31 AM
Feb 2024

NJCher

(35,895 posts)
6. He's not in the same condition
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:44 AM
Feb 2024

He was in at that time. Join the party. We’re all watching the train wreck.

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
10. He is on the tracks to be the Republican nominee,
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:56 AM
Feb 2024

why wouldn't people take a chance and invest in that? Saudi Arabia has money to burn.

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
9. Trump delivered to Saudi Arabia,
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:54 AM
Feb 2024

sold them military equipment, ratted out the dissenters to Prince Bone Saw, well worth 2 billion dollars.

Trump just needs to be careful how he launders the money, having Prince Bone saw overpay for one of his golf courses could lose him some votes.

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
14. It usually goes through Congress, right?
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
Feb 2024

Wasn't it Kushner who fast tracked that sale? Wasn't Kushner later rewarded?

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
19. Quid pro quo
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:35 AM
Feb 2024

Jared Kushner brokered the 110 billion dollar deal and was later rewarded.

Also I don't subscribe to the narrative that both parties are the same, especially with the fall of the Republican party.

former9thward

(32,233 posts)
20. No, both parties are not the same.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 12:24 PM
Feb 2024

But when it comes to the Saudis no one has ever been able to show me the difference.

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
11. Trump has already delivered to Saudi Arabia and Russia,
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:00 AM
Feb 2024

and that's just what we know of. Why wouldn't they invest once again in Trump. Helping him appeal his court losses is helping him become president, he will have more money for his campaign. It is really pretty logical for someone to invest in him.

Scrivener7

(51,118 posts)
13. Of course. And Putin is going to rat-fuck his way through this election like he did the last one.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:05 AM
Feb 2024

Probably worse.

To ignore Putin as an issue in tsf's campaign is to whistle past the graveyard, and we really can't afford that kind of head-in-the-sand denial right now.

gab13by13

(21,606 posts)
15. It will be way worse than 2016
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:16 AM
Feb 2024

with AI and with Musk in control of Twitter. We will need 100 marc Elias'.

People are talking about Lara Trump running the RNC but her co-chair Whatley is a lawyer who ran the RNC in N. Carolina. Whatley bragged that he spent 75% of RNC money on legal fees filing lawsuits and he stated as head of the RNC he wants to file lawsuits across the country.

With people so gullible, I worry, they still can't tell the difference between a fence and a wall.

NJCher

(35,895 posts)
21. there are some real practical concerns here
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 01:01 PM
Feb 2024

which people seem to be oblivious to, namely the magnitude of the amount of the money to bail him out. Please do tell me about that last bribe, the $2 billion, that escaped scrutiny: not.

Did you read the article on the overseer of the Trump business entities in NY? Yeah she sounds like a real sucker who will let this stuff fly by.

And I laugh every time I hear anyone say Trump is the frontrunner for the republican nomination. He's the frontrunner of a train wreck. Now just in case you didn't read it, there's an article on the brain drain in the republican party. And never mind there is so much chaos that they can't pay their rent on several buildings where they rent, that they have two leaders in one state, and I could go on and on but I need another cup of tea.

I suggest the kneejerk doomsayers get caught up on their reading.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
22. The writer of the article indicates several prosecutors ( didja read it?) think it could. It isn't out of the question.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 02:53 PM
Feb 2024

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