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Fullduplexxx

(7,870 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:43 PM Feb 21

A moderate House Democrat is circulating a resolution to protect Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) from a potential removal a

A moderate House Democrat is circulating a resolution to protect Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) from a potential removal attempt by one of his party's hardliners, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: Centrist Democrats have floated protecting Johnson to give him room to put bipartisan legislation on the floor.

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/21/democrats-mike-johnson-motion-vacate-gottheimer

Don't dems have the right to vacate that chair if so then threaten him with it

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A moderate House Democrat is circulating a resolution to protect Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) from a potential removal a (Original Post) Fullduplexxx Feb 21 OP
Where is this "right" you write of? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 21 #1
I thought it only took 1 member to get the chair vacated Fullduplexxx Feb 21 #2
That is only a rule, and it is only inside the Republicon caucus; a rule only for this Congress. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 21 #4
Interesting. They'll brand him as a collaborator if he goes for it. I wouldn't hold my breath. lindysalsagal Feb 21 #3
F*** that S***! KPN Feb 21 #5
They had a better chance with McCarthy than this christo-fascist JohnSJ Feb 21 #6
That's what I said when so many people were cheering for McCarthy's doom Silent3 Feb 22 #17
I agree and said the same thing JohnSJ Feb 22 #20
Only the GOP Reps can call a vote for that obamanut2012 Feb 21 #7
That's not what i read Fullduplexxx Feb 21 #8
The motion to vacate must then pass or can be tabled by a simple majority. lapucelle Feb 21 #9
You read that it was a rule and you decided it was a "right" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 21 #10
Yes, if there's a rule saying I could do a thing Then I have the right to do that thing. Fullduplexxx Feb 21 #12
Very different Bernardo de La Paz Feb 21 #13
You are incorrect. onenote Feb 21 #14
We should only provide protection if he earns it... getagrip_already Feb 21 #11
Sphincter for the Louse Micro Johnson will do nothing TheKentuckian Feb 21 #15
And all the while, it is Ukraine that swings in the wind. Mister Ed Feb 22 #16
Johnson is "leading" in the other direction on both TheKentuckian Feb 22 #18
Bipartisan cooperation from America's Angriest God-botherer? Don't hold your breath. hatrack Feb 22 #19

Silent3

(15,274 posts)
17. That's what I said when so many people were cheering for McCarthy's doom
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 03:09 AM
Feb 22

As horrible as McCarthy was, I knew the next Republican pick would be worse.

When it comes to propping up Johnson... that's only worth it if he helps prevent the next looming government shutdown and helps get aid to Ukraine.

If he can't deliver those things in exchange for a bit of Democratic support, fuck him.

Hell, with the Republic majority even smaller now, maybe there's a slim chance of turning a couple of Republicans... well, I wouldn't dare dream of getting Jeffries in... to support a compromise Speaker who'll join with Democrats to get some minimum, basic, keep-the-country running work done.

Fullduplexxx

(7,870 posts)
8. That's not what i read
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:09 PM
Feb 21

WASHINGTON — In his bid to become speaker of the House, Rep. Kevin McCarthy agreed to a number of concessions to secure the support of Republicans who originally opposed him. One was a rule change to allow just a single member to try to force him from office.

Under the new House rules passed Monday, only one member of Congress — Democrat or Republican — is needed to bring a "motion to vacate," which forces a vote on removing the speaker. That would need only a simple majority of the House to pass to oust McCarthy.

I understand it's a motion to vacate on which a vote needs to happen

lapucelle

(18,340 posts)
9. The motion to vacate must then pass or can be tabled by a simple majority.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:17 PM
Feb 21
The history of the motion to vacate rule suggests that the pre-2019 version will not significantly impact the House moving forward. This is because merely filing a motion to vacate does not remove the Speaker. A majority of lawmakers in the House (typically 218) must approve the motion. And any lawmaker may prevent an up-or-down vote on the motion by moving to table it on a simple majority vote.

https://www.legislativeprocedure.com/blog/2023/1/10/new-motion-to-vacate-rule-unlikely-to-disrupt-house

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,044 posts)
10. You read that it was a rule and you decided it was a "right"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:21 PM
Feb 21

Further you provide no link for your quote. Nor did you mark it as a quote with the excerpt tool DU provides.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,044 posts)
13. Very different
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:19 PM
Feb 21

Rights have a lot more durability.

Rules can be changed much more easily.

The English language, being a language, is somewhat flexible and is subject to the whims of common speech. But technically a rule is not a right. A rule can enforce a right or codify a right or clarify a right. But go ahead and call it a right all you want. Few will correct you.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
14. You are incorrect.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:21 PM
Feb 21

The rules of the 117th Congress contained the following provision: (3) A resolution causing a vacancy in the Office of Speaker shall not be privi- leged except if offered by direction of a party caucus or conference.

However, the resolution adopting the rules for the 118th Congress stripped out that provision. As a result, any member, without regard to party, can offer, as a "question of privilege" a resolution to vacate the Office of Speaker.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
11. We should only provide protection if he earns it...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 02:56 PM
Feb 21

Bring the foreign aid bill to a vote, along with clean budget bills.

Then he can keep his gavel.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
15. Sphincter for the Louse Micro Johnson will do nothing
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:24 PM
Feb 21

but kiss Chumps ass and push whatever the nutters demand.

Let him swing in the wind.

Mister Ed

(5,944 posts)
16. And all the while, it is Ukraine that swings in the wind.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 02:29 AM
Feb 22

Ukraine, and the U.S. economy as well, since the traitorous House GOP is rumbling with yet another government shutdown threat.

There's no good solution for dealing with these Quislings. House Democrats will be groping for the least worst solution.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
18. Johnson is "leading" in the other direction on both
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:19 AM
Feb 22

If you can get a collar on him and make him heel then great but otherwise let chaos reign until reason is back at bat.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
19. Bipartisan cooperation from America's Angriest God-botherer? Don't hold your breath.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 08:42 AM
Feb 22

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) delivered a “horrible” presentation at a GOP retreat in Miami, Florida this weekend that transformed into an all out “sermon,” sources told POLITICO. Johnson’s talk was meant to focus on the Republican Party’s prospects of keeping its two person House majority in the 2024 elections, but instead he began ranting about moral rot in the United States.

According to two sources, the lawmaker cited declining numbers of church goers, as well as a withering national religious identity, in his speech. “I’m not at church,” said one source, who described the presentation as “horrible.” They believed Johnson was trying to unite GOP members. “The sermon was so long he couldn’t bring it back to make the point,” they said. Johnson, a Christian nationalist, has a habit of crossing the line between church and state. He’s so devoted to being devout he even admitted that Joe Biden’s presidency was “God’s will.” Last week, Johnson signaled that he planned to crush the Senate’s $95 billion foreign aid package.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/speaker-mike-johnson-went-way-off-topic-in-horrible-sermon-at-gop-retreat

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