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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe are here because of Garland's foot dragging. Now the Supremes can delay until a trial is not possible
Thanks Merrick Garland. I blame you.
Motherfucker doesn't need to delay. You did plenty.
Don't talk to me about bashing a Democratic figure. This criticism is well deserved.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,838 posts)and add ANOTHER 1x10^9
BigmanPigman
(51,651 posts)I feel like asking, "Is it safe?" like the Marathon Man film. Will we get kicked off if we still say that?
dchill
(38,611 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,175 posts)play one on TV.
Trueblue1968
(17,245 posts)cactusfractal
(498 posts)When I had a comment deleted about him having no spine.
"Democratic" figure, my ass.
When they find that Presidential actions are immune from prosecution absent Senate conviction, I hope Biden throws him in Gitmo along with the Orange Menace, then resigns scot free.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(1,301 posts)Someone didn't like me bashing Quisling Garland.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,436 posts)I've had posts hidden for being critical of Garland, Maserati-Manchin and Curtsy Sinema. So have a lot of others here.
And we were right about all three.
BaronChocula
(1,634 posts)It's unbelievably safe. You wouldn't believe how safe it is. AHHHHHHHHHH!
I still can't watch that scene to this day.
BigmanPigman
(51,651 posts)What a good film!
bamagal62
(3,275 posts)Something bad about Garland. So .
ShazzieB
(16,637 posts)It's completely random and anonymous, and different people can have very different opinions on the same thing, as we all know just from reading the posts here.
I have seen posts get removed that I thought were harmless and other posts that I did not like at all stick around through multiple alerts.
There are a few things that will pretty reliably get a post removed, like using racial slurs or calling another member nasty names, but an awful lot of things can go either way, depending on who's voting on it.
Diraven
(551 posts)Offending posts just get removed now? I remember during the 2020 primaries accounts were getting permanently banned every day just for the sin of supporting the wrong candidates.
jcgoldie
(11,658 posts).
womanofthehills
(8,808 posts)Supporter was banned for life back then.
Response to womanofthehills (Reply #87)
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emulatorloo
(44,268 posts)Unless you were supporting Trump.
Comfortably_Numb
(3,845 posts)Wuddles440
(1,135 posts)have planned for us "vermin", getting your tooth drilled may actually be the least painful of their menu choices.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)Comfortably_Numb
(3,845 posts)orthoclad
(2,910 posts)When I was really poor, I got teeth drilled without novocaine. Saved $15.
Richard58
(239 posts)I know how it is on this forum. Criticizing a Democrat is a no-no. Even if said Democrat is F'ing up royally like Garland is! Why can't we call it like it is?
msfiddlestix
(7,288 posts)Garland is a Federalist through and through. and that qualifies as the party of the Repuke imo.
brush
(53,977 posts)Thanks, Garland.
And one more thing. Him not editing out that hit job crap from the Hur report as the height of passive aggressiveness. Garland just released that "well intentioned, elderly man with a poor memory who is not fit to serve" crap, which we'll all be hearing over and over and over again in negative repug ads angainst Biden during the campaign.
KPN
(15,677 posts)I read the book well before the movie. The movie was really well done and absolutely not disappointing in the least.
Think. Again.
(8,830 posts)stage left
(2,967 posts)In a Republican.
Oneironaut
(5,541 posts)Irl too.
Putting unearned trust in anyone will just lead to disappointment, imo. You should never trust someone you dont know personally / who hasnt earned your trust.
chicoescuela
(1,032 posts)F him too
MOMFUDSKI
(5,787 posts)Flame away.
chicoescuela
(1,032 posts)TomSlick
(11,134 posts)chicoescuela
(1,032 posts)BlueNIndiana
(94 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(1,301 posts)scipan
(2,366 posts)SCOTUS.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)scipan
(2,366 posts)I'm disappointed in him too but I think he did it by the book, i.e., roll up the lower ones first and hope they implicate the higher ups. Maybe he was uncertain of himself.
He was wrong.
Edit: that mistake is nothing compared to the corruption of the SC. That's why I prefer to shine a light on them vs Garland.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)were not going to deliver him the planners of the coup, he should not have been in the job.
There is no book that has that ridiculous notion in it.
He ignored the planners.
We wouldn't' be here if he had not done that.
scipan
(2,366 posts)I never read that he was a member of the federalist society.
Besides, I remind you, if you read the same stuff i did, Biden didn't want his presidency to be all about prosecuting Trump. Understandable if imo wrong.
ShazzieB
(16,637 posts)I also agree with your previous post, about where the blame lies.
I wish Garland had moved a LOT faster than he did, but SCOTUS has a hell of a lot to answer for right now.
I was watching Nicolle Wallace when the news broke and have been tuned into MSNBC ever since, and I have never seen so many really smart people with their hair on fire as I have seen these past few hours. Garland has gotten some negative comments, but it's SCOTUS that everyone has seemed to have the harshest words for, and I agree. Those 6 conservatives are being WAY too helpful to Trump, and it stinks.
As for Garland, I don't agree with a lot of his choices, but I'm in no position to judge his motives or what those decisions have been based on. I hope he writes a memoir someday, because I'd love to hear what he has to say about all of it, but I'm not holding my breath.
scipan
(2,366 posts)There are several corrupt SCOTUS justices. Or maybe their financial interests align with their judicial interests.
Either way it literally makes me feel sick.
What kind of country do we have if they aren't even pretending???
Mistake
fightvision81
(9 posts)sat on his hands for 2 1/2 yrs out of fear! And now Orange Goblin is going to get away with it all.
hadEnuf
(2,224 posts)Not too hard to figure what was going to follow, IMO.
Or what is to come....
chowder66
(9,104 posts)Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)calimary
(81,594 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 29, 2024, 05:16 AM - Edit history (1)
and shouldnt be yowling about this.
HES a BIG part of the problem, and everybody should be making an uproar about it!!!
And if youre not part of the problem, Garland, then you damn well better be doing something to solve and eliminate the problem!
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)And this decision makes me very, very frightened.
Stinky The Clown
(67,840 posts)Im beyond sick of that b.s.
AllyCat
(16,262 posts)There is nothing Democratic about that.
emulatorloo
(44,268 posts)THE THIRD FEDERALIST SOCIETY
Within the Federalist Society, is an operation funded by dark money and designed to remake our judiciary on behalf of a distinct group of very wealthy anonymous funders.
The story of the third Federalist Society is partly the story of a man named Leonard Leo, the Societys executive vice president. Mr. Leo is now the most influential person shaping our federal judiciary. Dont be surprised if youve listening and youve never heard of him. Hes never been elected. He is not accountable to any voter. Instead, hes the front man for interests that want to use the Federalist Society and its surrounding network of front groups, and PR shops, and think tanks??to acquire control over our courts.
Renown court watcher Jeffrey Toobin describes Leo as Trumps subcontractor on the selection of Supreme Court justices. More accurately, Mr. Leo is the subcontractor for a network of big corporate interests and front groups. In the summer of 2016, it was Leo who delivered the list of potential nominees to fill the vacancy left by the death of Antonin Scalia and the blocking of MERRICK GARLAND (caps mine). It was Mr. Leo who was involved in the Trump transition, helping to conduct outreach to potential Supreme Court picks, including Neil Gorsuch. Mr. Leo even orchestrated a million-dollar donation to Trumps inauguration.
dalton99a
(81,706 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,511 posts)ananda
(28,903 posts)I've been on the anti-Garland page for awhile now.
Nothing's changed.
RussBLib
(9,057 posts)...we all saw it. I think Trump will lose the election REGARDLESS, and once the election is over, the trials can resume at their own pace
https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1
kiri
(802 posts)The Dems in the Senate are to blame for not getting Biden's judge nominees confirmed.
There are 113 waiting to take their seats on Federal courts. They are urgently needed. Senate Dems dawdle.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)overthrow the government in a timely enough manner to prevent him to run for another presidency four years later?
Their own pace is not good enough.
This was an attempted coup.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,787 posts)is no longer our system. Democracy failing
markpkessinger
(8,409 posts)I signed on just now to post this very sentiment.
As Jennifer Rubin noted in her column of yesterday, in which she compared New York AG Tish James to Garland:
dalton99a
(81,706 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,200 posts)those of us who pointed out Milquetoast Merricks failure to pursue justice in the wake of an attempted coup detat should apologize NOW.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,436 posts)It's disgusting. One really can't help but wonder about his motivation.
And Biden's done a great job, which will be overshadowed by this failure to hold criminal scum to account.
PufPuf23
(8,854 posts)POTUS Biden has proved competent and calm.
But who would have guessed the shitstorm of issues dealt with by his administration?
POTUS Biden is exposed to open sabotage.
Think POTUS Biden is exposed to essentially blackmail, not for what he has done, but what other parties will do to the USA.
NBachers
(17,186 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)Yeah, he's the guy that Obama thought would be okay by the Republicans.
That means he was never intended to be desirable to Democrats at all!
Just someone a Democratic President could try to squeeze over the plate in the face of an extremely obstructionist Senate in greatly compromising fashion.
The love affair never made a lick of sense.
I know a lot don't do sports but you can't make Hail Mary's the bread and butter of your offense.
Who would be the compromise nominee? Bill Barr?
Sparkly
(24,162 posts)Mitch and the gang vowed to obstruct EVERYthing before President Obama walked in the door. I think Garland was nominated as an "ultra-moderate" that the obstructionists surely couldn't say no to, right? right? But of course they did.
It's what they do over and over...
(Surely they won't go this far, right? right? Over and over again, they do.)
Anyway, Garland might have seemed at the outset like a good pick for AG, but clearly he's not cut out for the job.
Tansy_Gold
(17,888 posts)I'm with Stinky.
I honestly thought Garland would be stronger, and I thought Biden had made a good choice in putting the "rejected" SCOTUS nominee in DOJ to rub the pukes' noses in it.
But enough is enough.
And I've served on enough DU juries to know that we're not supposed to "bash" Democrats, but if we can't call out our own when we see things are wrong, then we're no better than the GQP cult members.
So the orange pile of shit gets to skate free again. He can keep operating his mob businesses in NYC. Nothing ever happens to him. And the rest of the fucking world suffers for it. The gloves have to come off. Jack Smith is doing at least something. Fani Willis is. Tish James is. Alvin Bragg (belatedly) is. But Garland hasn't. I haven't seen one single instance where he's had the moral courage of a gnat to stand up to the worst traitor in our nation's history.
RockRaven
(15,080 posts)Bragg doesn't get kudos from me for the impending trial because it should have happened years ago.
ecstatic
(32,786 posts)Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Hillary is running. Then all bets are off.
budkin
(6,726 posts)What an absolute disaster he turned out to be.
DaBronx
(306 posts)Could easily stand in for JB Smoove on Curb.
You speak truth.
Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)Three years getting convictions of the foot soldiers but waiting too long to convict the coup leadership.
If Smelvis walks free using the same clog-the-courts methods of cretins like Bannon then the U.S. government needs work.
What a letdown. The people get no timely justice.
Boomerproud
(7,983 posts)It's right there for us to see.
hydrolastic
(489 posts)What I worry about is, the system has broken down. and because the trials are being played out behind closed doors the end of democracy will come with just a wimper. The excuse will be "that there was nothing we could do" and /or that the system was not designed to handle someone playing the system the way Trump has. I have said it before and I will say it again we should have had Watergate type trials. It keeps everybody honest.
onecaliberal
(32,994 posts)So much hate from people.
Stinky The Clown
(67,840 posts)Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)very vocal posters who scoffed at the idea that this would ever happen.
And here we are.
KPN
(15,677 posts)onecaliberal
(32,994 posts)Not there to defend their man now.
oldmanlynn
(115 posts)The people of America will see the injustice and potential damage to the country they will vote these people out
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Our system was built to protect us from attempted overthrows and the cult has twisted every safeguard until it's completely impotent.
I have no doubt they will cheat their way through the election and make it a nail biter.
We are in a very precarious position right now.
republianmushroom
(13,853 posts)gulliver
(13,205 posts)President Biden did a fantastic job in picking Garland. There wasn't any foot dragging. That analogy implies intentional delay for one thing. But, I can't think of a move Garland has made that wasn't really sharp and good for the country.
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)gulliver
(13,205 posts)Biden picked Garland for AG.
And Obama picked Garland for the Supreme Court, so dissing Garland is also criticizing Obama.
Garland is great. It's just a fact.
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)Obama is not above criticism. Biden is not above criticism. Each can make mistakes.
And Garland is piss poor. I could state that "that's a fact", but I like to constrain myself with accuracy.
gulliver
(13,205 posts)Unfortunately, the people who think they made a mistake are making a mistake.
Sky Jewels
(7,200 posts)Garland was a massive mistake all around. Im so goddamn sick of these self-inflicted wounds. Theres no reason for Democrats to keep engaging in this kind of bullshit pandering to centrism and bipartisanship. Its always, always one-sided. And why the eff is Wray still heading the FBI?!
jcgoldie
(11,658 posts)Obama picked Garland trying to get through a moderate. McConnell stonewalled it anyway. Criticizing Garland's actions or lack thereof since he has been AG is not a criticism of Obama.
TiberiusB
(490 posts)Dissing Garland has nothing to do with Obama OR Biden. He's not a toddler, and is responsible for his own actions, or lack thereof. Trying to turn this all into an attack on the current and former POTUS seems like a weak attempt to shield Garland, rather than present the merits of his tenure.
He was a desperate attempt to placate obstructionist Republicans during Obama's presidency, and Biden clearly thought he was somehow correcting a previous injustice by putting Garland at the head of the DOJ. A symbolic move, and never one that was intended to result in any prosecution of the insurrectionist leaders, particularly Trump.
bluesbassman
(19,385 posts)That delay will most certainly mean his trial is delayed until after the election, and gawd forbid he somehow wins, he will never be tried. Hows that good for the country???
gulliver
(13,205 posts)Most likely. I'll wait and see. Will they hear the oral arguments and then decide really fast? I expect that. But I could be disappointed. Time will tell. Trump may be on trial on election day.
I expect Trump to lose. But if he doesn't lose, it's good to have the Supreme Court on record saying he's going to go to jail if he commits crimes.
bluesbassman
(19,385 posts)If they act as you suggest, Ill gladly owe you a beer. However, based on their past rulings I dont trust them to do the right thing. Not at all.
stollen
(419 posts)This is a delay scam. Better to look at what the fascist billionaires plan to do to overcome a blue wave. Russian satellites in space?
If dems control congress when the election is over, plus the WH, that should keep Alito and Thomas in place long enough for a congressional hearing on their malfeasance with changes made. Norms don't cut it anymore. Everything pertaining to SCOTUS must be minutely spelled out, as per SCOTUS' wish to hear this case, for the 3rd time in a court. Justices run amok is killing this country.
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BeyondGeography
(39,393 posts)And his brief responding to Trumps circuit court appeal was filed on Feb. 14.
Now we have to wait until the week of April 22 for oral arguments and probably the end of June for a decision. Six months after they could have delivered one.
Dont you see what has happened here?
TiberiusB
(490 posts)Letting the lower court ruling(s) stand. That is as effective as them ruling themselves. The only reason for taking the case is to delay the trial until after the election. Then, if Trump wins, he can pardon himself and any others he pleases. Even if that power, the ability to pardon himself of insurrection, gets challenged, the SCOTUS can then step in an give him a pass. In other words, they can pretend to rule against absolute immunity when it is far too late, and then grant him absolute power to grant pardons to anyone while in office, effectively cementing his grip on the presidency.
brush
(53,977 posts)on Joe Biden's docs case without editing out the damaging, extremely negative commentary by Hur of Joe Biden being a well-intenioned, elderly man with extremely poor memory and not fit for the presidency.
That's such a fucking passive-aggressive stab in Biden's back, I don't see how you can see that as good for the country. Hur took nearly four years and nearly 400 pages, getting paid all the while, to exonerate Biden 200 pages in, but it took only one page to exonerate Pence in a similar docs case...without any negative comentaty on the former VP.
And that's just one instance of Garland's disservice to the Biden admin and the nation.
Good for the country? Not at all.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)is the second dumbest.
The dumbest is "It isn't a Law & Order episode." The "episode" will now be at least four years long. In response to an attempt to overthrow the government.
Silent Type
(3,032 posts)Details might have been a bit different, but still a chitshow.
jcgoldie
(11,658 posts)... before Trump was up for election again. Thats the difference. Trump has never won anything on the merits. He only wins by delaying. Garland delayed for him.
PortTack
(32,820 posts)Just so everyone is aware!
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(1,301 posts)Paladin
(28,284 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,309 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,767 posts)Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)hatrack
(59,602 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,767 posts)Where exactly did I claim that "the current situation" is funny? What's funny is the predictability of yet another useless and pointless thread proclaiming "I hate Garland" and "Garland sucks."
Dear, oh dear! 😂
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,767 posts)Emojis aren't the entire message, they just add punctuation and emphasis. But I suspect that you knew that already. It's just easier to intentionally misinterpret my message than to refute what I actually said. (I think that's called making a "strawman" argument".)
LOL!
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Have a lovely day.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,767 posts)* and they're laughably silly and predictable. I understand that you disagree with me, but rather than disagreeing with what I actually said (and rather than finding a way to defend the merits/benefits of the daily "Garland Sucks" threads) I do not understand why anyone would choose to incorrectly accuse me of "laughing at the situation" and using THAT absurd translation as a false pretense for scolding me.
>> Have a lovely day.
Thank you! I will try. It's not so easy to do when having to defend myself against false accusations and untrue characterizations of my clear intent and meaning. But hopefully things will get better going forward.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,436 posts)there may be rain in the forecast
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)JohnSJ
(92,508 posts)general election.
In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing states.
We lost the Supreme Court because of that.
Both THIS Supreme Court and Garland deserves blame for the delay in the absolute immunity case against trump.
It is highly unlikely trump will be tried on this before the election, but make no mistake about it, we are here because of what happened in the general election in 2016.
I think we will be very fortunate if democracy in our country survives.
The only thing that will save this Democracy, if it is to be saved, will be the voters.
The Supreme Court is saying we are going to get involved to see that it doesn't get resolved before the election.
Wonder Why
(3,336 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,288 posts)as a reward for the humiliation of the Republicans blocking his appointment to the SCOTUS under Obama.
Not saying the reasoning was bad, and I understand the enormous pressure Biden was under to form a cabinet and put together a roster of appointments for various posts. This one probably seemed like an easy choice. it's possible
I only picked up the problem with him at the very first utterances during the confirmation hearing Possibly Biden realized it too, but by then, it was too late.
I do blame Garland, chiefly. Though he did have his accomplices too, didn't he?
Chakaconcarne
(2,480 posts)Divides us further and accomplishes THEIR goal.
You can choose to feed into it or not.
That is my opinion.
TeamProg
(6,343 posts)like the way he got choked up and near tears at his confirmation speech.
My gut feeling turned out to be correct.
MontanaMama
(23,367 posts)AG Garland came to a gun fight with a butter knife. That was bad enough and now we have a corrupt SCOTUS empowered to do the rest. And no, it isnt over, but were in a hell of a spot at this moment.
Magoo48
(4,722 posts)MineralMan
(146,351 posts)However, why would a trial not be possible? After Trump loses in November, the trial can occur with no difficulty.
Are you assuming he wins? I suggest we all work very, very hard to prevent that outcome. If we do not, the loss will be greater than Trump skating.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,706 posts)The fact that it took this long to get to this point is indeed frustrating, but its not Garlands fault.
Your criticism of Garland is not based in reality. It is only based on the passage of time and the lack of public information. However, if you truly feel Garland has intentionally delayed the prosecution of Trump, then, to remain consistent with your perception, you should contact the White House and demand that Biden fire Garland immediately.
The only way to get an unreviewable ruling that a president is not immune from prosecution is to have that ruling issue from SCOTUS.
For those that havent been paying attention, the lower court ruling did not cover two critical questions:
1) is a president immune from prosecution for acts such as ordering drone strikes? (This question raises not only the distinctions between official and unofficial acts, but also acts performed to benefit the nation, vs. acts performed to benefit oneself).
2) after the lower court ruled, Trump filed an immunity claim in Cannons court, claiming he was immune because he converted government documents into his personal property.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,706 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,840 posts)The specific investigation into the defendant should have started within a month of J6..
It did not.
All the USSC delay tactics would have had plenty of time to play out. Instead it is juuuuuuuuuuust a tiiiiiiiiiiiny bit too late. "Sorry about your Democracy, America"
Fiendish Thingy
(15,706 posts)And once confirmed, Rudys devices were seized immediately, and within a few weeks, Owen Shroyer, who was in the War Room on Jan 5-6, was interviewed, and is now under a cooperation/plea agreement.
You knew that, right?
But nobody knew it at the time (well we knew about Rudy), and nobody knew about the other investigative activities either, because thats how investigations work.
But, I get it, the Bad Orange Man still not in jail, so Garland sux.
Scrivener7
(51,084 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)mcar
(42,467 posts)voted for Jill fcking Stein in 2016.
wryter2000
(46,132 posts)Not in time to do much good, but unless he can cancel the cases somehow, there will be trials.
As it is now, Alvin Bragg goes ahead in March. That hasn't changed.
Even if SCOTUS gives him absolute immunity for when he was president, that doesn't get him off for the documents.
Those two things will happen regardless. If he's not elected president, the DC case and Georgia case will go ahead.
Even if he's convicted of something, it's not likely he'll be in prison before November. If he wins, the conviction means nothing because he'll be king.
Bottom line: we have to make sure Joe Biden wins.
stage left
(2,967 posts)I'm going to work like hell to that end. I'm 75 and can't do a lot, but I'm going to do as much as I can.
wryter2000
(46,132 posts)If you just make sure your friends and family are voting, youve done something. Donating helps. I make phone calls.
stage left
(2,967 posts)I'd like to discourage them from voting. My core family group vote blue. I've got two hundred postcards and I'm ready to write some postcards.
nowforever
(316 posts)King of the milquetoasts. So afraid of making the wrong step he chooses to stand still and hope nobody notices. His idea of bold is pursing his lips ever so slightly. Appointing Jack Smith will be his only AG career highlight.
Under The Radar
(3,407 posts)I have often been impatient with Merck Garland and his slow pace methodical moves against Trump and I feel that the time has passed to investigate the members of congress that assisted Trump in his attempts to reverse the election of 2020. At the very least Joe Biden could have used the threat of criminal investigations as leverage to control congress if only Democrats played rough and cheated like the Republicans do. I would even have paid a couple of the more moderate house republicans to declare themselves Democrats or independents in order to maintain control as a majority. Who cares about the ramifications of packing SCOTUS with 3 more liberal seats, at least we get what we need now, right? Whats wrong with cutting corners and playing hardball like they do?
One would have to look through a different lens to see that all attempts to impeach President Biden as a crime lord have failed, there have been zero resignations or terminations of cabinet members and presidential staff, all attempts to fabricate a scandal on this administration have failed. It doesnt make the headlines but it is clear Republicans are in shambles fighting among themselves, they are broke and are having trouble fundraising, they have lied so often we have film contradicting all their attempts at the truth, now their least intelligent least educated and least disciplined members have taken over the leadership positions.
Dont look now Democrats, but I think that we are looking pretty good and I have never been prouder to be a Liberal- Progressive Democrat than I am right now.
usonian
(9,969 posts)He could sleep through a triple-play, perfect game, and Blue Angels flyover.
orthoclad
(2,910 posts)opening for a lifetime job with great vacation bennies.
Tribetime
(4,721 posts)And resign you are in way over your head.
mvd
(65,185 posts)..but I just cant anymore. Also he allowed Hurs report to contain personal attacks on the President.