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leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:53 AM Mar 2

Death of Angela Chao, (sister of Elaine) Under Criminal Investigation

The death earlier this month of Foremost Group CEO Angela Chao, the sister-in-law of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, is currently under "criminal investigation," a Texas sheriff's office said Thursday.

Chao, 50, was found dead shortly after midnight on Feb. 11 after being pulled out of a car that had gone into a pond on a private ranch in Johnson City, Texas, about 40 miles from Austin.

"This incident was not a typical accident," the Blanco County Sheriff's Office wrote in a letter to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Thursday.

"Although the preliminary investigation indicated this was an unfortunate accident, the Sheriff's Office is still investigating this accident as a criminal matter until they have sufficient evidence to rule out criminal activity," the letter said.

Chao was the sister of McConnell's wife, Elaine Chao, who has served as secretary of both the U.S. Labor and Transportation departments. Their father and mother founded the Foremost Group.

[link:https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/29/angela-chao-death-being-investigated-as-criminal-matter.html|



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Death of Angela Chao, (sister of Elaine) Under Criminal Investigation (Original Post) leighbythesea2 Mar 2 OP
Kick dalton99a Mar 2 #1
I dunno. Johnson city is a pretty small town. The freeway does down (is) Main Street. If you go off road flying_wahini Mar 2 #2
Lots of trump supporters there as well onetexan Mar 2 #23
Apparently, it happened on property that she may have owned or had part ownership of. LeftInTX Mar 2 #25
Get thee to the greatest page for malaise Mar 2 #3
Found this drawing from 2022 leighbythesea2 Mar 2 #16
Lots of rumors for years malaise Mar 2 #19
Funny how all that cocaine and humans that were being snuggled inside shipping containers.... Botany Mar 3 #60
That crossed my mind, too. flying_wahini Mar 2 #41
"A private ranch in Texas" -- was she duck-hunting? Hekate Mar 2 #4
Was Richard Cheney driving ? magicarpet Mar 2 #7
Maybe... She was also driving a Tesla. Hugin Mar 2 #10
Why would the type of motor make opening doors or smashing windows more difficult? Think. Again. Mar 2 #36
Teslas in particular and other modern car's door latches and windows are often... Hugin Mar 2 #42
Believe ranch is owned by her ex-husband leighbythesea2 Mar 2 #11
I don't think she was divorced from Jim Breyer blogslug Mar 2 #29
You're right leighbythesea2 Mar 2 #44
Some interesting speculation on Youtube malaise Mar 2 #15
I can imagine. Hugin Mar 2 #17
Was Dick Cheney on site? 3Hotdogs Mar 2 #40
She is partial owner of the property LeftInTX Mar 2 #43
Straight answer -- thank you Hekate Mar 2 #45
Also found out it rained almost an inch earlier in the day. LeftInTX Mar 2 #48
Again, thank you for the straight and understandable answer Hekate Mar 2 #50
Agree and if it's out on a ranch pinkstarburst Mar 2 #59
...The letter did not say that there was evidence that Chao died as the result of a crime. riversedge Mar 2 #5
It will be covered up if a rich white man was involved. rubbersole Mar 2 #6
The contemporaneity of McConnell's resignation is curious Ponietz Mar 2 #8
Agree leighbythesea2 Mar 2 #13
That struck me too. n/t Hugin Mar 2 #14
It is to me, too, but I've watched a lot of detective shows. barbaraann Mar 2 #18
Interesting leighbythesea2 Mar 2 #21
Had the same thought relayerbob Mar 2 #30
McConnell obviously has health problems womanofthehills Mar 2 #34
He is not resigning his postion for almost 9 months. former9thward Mar 2 #31
I didn't know texass cared MOMFUDSKI Mar 2 #9
Especially post-uterine people... n/t Hugin Mar 2 #12
No mention of suicide? n/t SheilaAnn Mar 2 #20
I suppose it would be a possibility. Hugin Mar 2 #24
Senators and water accidents are way too common. Either really weird or something going on. jimfields33 Mar 2 #54
Mitch will have one less family member to spend time with now. sop Mar 2 #22
Too young. I'm sorry for their loss and hope they are able to find out what happened here. chowder66 Mar 2 #26
Teslas have dozens of cameras, no? getagrip_already Mar 2 #27
If she went into the pond unintentionally (one supposes) FakeNoose Mar 2 #35
Fwiw, i have a cheap tool that will shatter a car window in seconds getagrip_already Mar 2 #37
Didn't the Chao Family Shipping Business .. Botany Mar 2 #28
If so, please link. former9thward Mar 2 #33
Mitch McConnell's Freighted Ties to a Shadowy Shipping Company malaise Mar 2 #46
Thanks but the article is 10 years old. former9thward Mar 2 #47
No problem Botany Mar 3 #61
Not that I'm of a suspicious mind, but . . . AverageOldGuy Mar 2 #32
The certain VP was the shooter. nt sorcrow Mar 2 #38
And Scalia died in Texas. Sneederbunk Mar 2 #39
She is partial owner of the ranch. LeftInTX Mar 2 #49
sounds like you got it all figured out - nothing to see here - just a little rain lol! Blues Heron Mar 2 #51
One inch of rain is flood conditions in the hill country. LeftInTX Mar 2 #52
case closed! Blues Heron Mar 2 #53
Let me know when someone is arrested. LeftInTX Mar 2 #55
I'll wait for more info to come out. It could be any number of things. Blues Heron Mar 2 #56
Here in the high desert of NM womanofthehills Mar 2 #57
it could have been anything - we dont know yet. the rain angle is just one possibility. Blues Heron Mar 2 #58
It's so tragic leighbythesea2 Mar 3 #62

flying_wahini

(6,651 posts)
2. I dunno. Johnson city is a pretty small town. The freeway does down (is) Main Street. If you go off road
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:58 AM
Mar 2

at night they are 2 lane blacktops with minimal lighting. If you don’t know the roads, have any alcohol on board and speed is a factor, well then you may just miss your turn.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
25. Apparently, it happened on property that she may have owned or had part ownership of.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:37 PM
Mar 2

It's one of those things: How large was the property? Where was the pond? How was the lighting? How familiar was she with the area? How often did they visit? (I know. I know. I know. her husband's corporation is a partial owner, but in Texas ponds come and go depending on weather. Sounds like the corporation purchased the property in 2020 ..etc Lifestyles of the rich and famous) How much was she drinking? etc etc.


Don't know where the property stops and starts etc Was it the ponds near the house or were they creek ponds?

Edit: According to weather underground...It rained .96 inches on Saturday morning. She was found just after midnight on Sunday.


malaise

(269,174 posts)
3. Get thee to the greatest page for
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:59 AM
Mar 2

visibility.
Interesting that MoscowMitch announces his retirement after this.
Is he afraid that they are coming for him.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
16. Found this drawing from 2022
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:45 AM
Mar 2

From a tweet. Some looks like pure speculation —the drug part. Interesting to look over, at very least.

But Didn’t know all the Mitch/Elaine tendrils….just the bigger, more reported ones.

[link:https://x.com/jzikah/status/1763458260689093018?s=46|

Botany

(70,585 posts)
60. Funny how all that cocaine and humans that were being snuggled inside shipping containers....
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 10:56 AM
Mar 3

…. kept ending up on the Chao’s Family’s ships on their way to Europe and N. America. Don’t
worry Gov. Abbott has his best man on the case.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
7. Was Richard Cheney driving ?
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:22 AM
Mar 2

How many bottles of bourbon did he gulp down before lunch the day of the Chao joy ride into the pond.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
10. Maybe... She was also driving a Tesla.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:32 AM
Mar 2

Which are apparently very difficult to extract people from when submerged.

”Angela Chao died on February 11, 2024, at the age of 50. According to the Blanco County sheriff, she died after her Tesla went into a pond on her private ranch (named JWCB Ranch, or JW Ranch for short), which is located at 101 Schneider Lane in Johnson City, about 40 miles west of Austin. She was under water for over an hour as rescuers tried to reach her and extricate her from the submerged car. Upon her removal from the car, EMS workers delivered "advanced life support" for 43 minutes, but were unable to revive her. As of February 2024, her death was under criminal investigation by the Blanco County Sheriff’s Office.”


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Chao

As Sherlock Holmes would say, “The game’s afoot” or maybe aflight.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
42. Teslas in particular and other modern car's door latches and windows are often...
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:43 PM
Mar 2

Electrically operated having a hidden manual release which is obscured in the trim. This is an emerging problem for first responders which has been reported.

It has nothing to do with the motor other than the latches are streamlined to theoretically increase range.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
11. Believe ranch is owned by her ex-husband
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 2

Had to search twitter a bit for more info. This has a lot of china/CCP connections.

blogslug

(38,017 posts)
29. I don't think she was divorced from Jim Breyer
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
Mar 2

Everything I've read says they were married at the time of her death.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
43. She is partial owner of the property
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:45 PM
Mar 2

Now, the question: How often did they visit? (I know. I know...lifestyles of the rich and famous..they may have been infrequent visitors). Was she intoxicated? How was the lighting? Ponds in Texas are often temporary and their size is quite variable. (It had rained about four inches in January and that's enough to fill a pond) Last year, there likely weren't any ponds.

If they don't visit the property frequently and as you can see, it's a bunch of dirt road and it was midnight, it's easy to end up in a pond if there is no lighting.


To me, I just don't see how a crime was actually committed.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
48. Also found out it rained almost an inch earlier in the day.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:17 PM
Mar 2

This is in the Texas Hill Country where flash flooding is an issue.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
50. Again, thank you for the straight and understandable answer
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:27 PM
Mar 2

Those of us who live in dry country can easily understand that

pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
59. Agree and if it's out on a ranch
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 08:16 PM
Mar 2

in a very rural area like Johnson City, it's not going to be well lit up like the interstate. There would have been flooding due to rain earlier that day and she could easily misjudged water levels and been swept away or driven into the water without realizing what she was doing and that could have happened in an instant.

I'm sure they're investigating because they need to, but it wouldn't surprise me if this was just a tragic accident.

riversedge

(70,306 posts)
5. ...The letter did not say that there was evidence that Chao died as the result of a crime.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:03 AM
Mar 2

Time will tell--hopefully.


...........The letter did not say that there was evidence that Chao died as the result of a crime.

But the statement in the letter that Chao’s death was not “a typical accident” and the prospect of a potential prosecution marked a shift from an initial statement released days after Chao’s death.

The sheriff’s office in that Feb. 16 statement had said, “EMS attempted emergency measures on Ms. Chao but she succumbed from being under the water.”

“Our preliminary investigation has determined this to be an unfortunate accident. The investigation is ongoing at this time,” the prior statement said.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
13. Agree
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:37 AM
Mar 2

He said something about “this type of loss makes one evaluate priorities” I read. Sure, but Mitch doing this now, why. Never struck us as a life-affirming type before.

barbaraann

(9,163 posts)
18. It is to me, too, but I've watched a lot of detective shows.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:53 AM
Mar 2

So many resignations. Reminds me of a quote from Ian Fleming's "Goldfinger."

“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
21. Interesting
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:15 PM
Mar 2

Quote!
Like the detective shows. Found I have to restrict the amount. Especially week night bc then sit in bed puzzling, instead of sleeping.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
31. He is not resigning his postion for almost 9 months.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:01 PM
Mar 2

And he is not resigning from the Senate at all. He is 82. But let the CTs flow!

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
24. I suppose it would be a possibility.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:32 PM
Mar 2

I haven’t seen mention of any details in the terse press releases.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
27. Teslas have dozens of cameras, no?
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:44 PM
Mar 2

Both inside and outside. Lots of sensors and microphones, always on.

Probably won't be much mystery once warrants are issued.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
35. If she went into the pond unintentionally (one supposes)
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:15 PM
Mar 2

... how does a submerged driver operate the electric car windows?

I've never driven a Tesla, but my gas-powered car also has electric-powered windows. Once the motor shuts off, my car windows don't work. I'd assume it's the same for a Tesla?

Long story short - a submerged driver can operate old-style roll down windows and exit the car if they've driven into a pond. But electric windows make it impossible to save oneself.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
37. Fwiw, i have a cheap tool that will shatter a car window in seconds
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:30 PM
Mar 2

You can find them online easily. Just press them against the window and it shatters completely.

Then you swim free.

Costs about $5. Even has a tool built in to cut a seat belt.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
28. Didn't the Chao Family Shipping Business ..
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 12:49 PM
Mar 2

.. have connections to cocaine and human
trafficking? Just saying.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
47. Thanks but the article is 10 years old.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:40 PM
Mar 2

I going to assume since there was an investigation than there was nothing there. McConnell has had plenty of well-funded opponents who know how to do opposition research.

AverageOldGuy

(1,544 posts)
32. Not that I'm of a suspicious mind, but . . .
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 2

Chao, 50, was found dead shortly after midnight on Feb. 11 after being pulled out of a car that had gone into a pond on a private ranch in Johnson City, Texas, about 40 miles from Austin.


Texas?? Texas??

Do I remember correctly that a certain Republican VP was "accidentally" shot in the face with a shotgun at a Texas ranch?

Happens once, it's happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action.

Who is next?

Just sayin' . . .

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
49. She is partial owner of the ranch.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 2

It's in a flash flood area where pond size and even the pond itself tend to be more or less temporary.
It had rained almost inch earlier in the day.
This is enough to cause hazardous conditions on dirt roads in the hill country.

I'm pretty sure there is little lighting and if she accidentally backed into an area and didn't see that the pond had risen or drove into area and thought the swollen pond was a puddle, it's entirely possible. These things happen in the Texas Hill Country quite frequently.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
52. One inch of rain is flood conditions in the hill country.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:44 PM
Mar 2

Two inches of rain and we have people drowning in San Antonio.
Never fails.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
55. Let me know when someone is arrested.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:55 PM
Mar 2

None of this "criminal investigation" is being reported in the Austin American Statesman.
They're likely investigating the response. Even the article states they are going to "rule out" if a crime was committed.
It's probably because she's a Republican VIP.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/state/2024/02/24/foremost-ceo-angela-chao-submerged-rescue-attempt-blanco-county-ems-chief/72719294007/

womanofthehills

(8,771 posts)
57. Here in the high desert of NM
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 07:40 PM
Mar 2

A heavy rain can get the arroyos running. Even if it’s not raining at my place but miles north of me. I have to keep supplies & a blanket & pillow in my car. The arroyo runs over a section of the road and sometimes impassable for hours.

Blues Heron

(5,944 posts)
58. it could have been anything - we dont know yet. the rain angle is just one possibility.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 07:46 PM
Mar 2

she could have had an aneurysm or something.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
62. It's so tragic
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 05:40 PM
Mar 3

I think just the “car submerged” is literally everyone’s nightmare scenario. Rare, but when see it, —-really hope they figure it out. Poor lady.

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