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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFWIW my son in law and his die hard republican family
will not vote for President if Trump is the nominee. His parents live in Oklahoma. His brother in DC. Daughter and family here in NM.
I asked: what if RFK Jr runs as libertarian? And she laughed out loud.
She of course is in the Biden column.
I know its anecdotal. Sure gives me hope tough.
These people reject Trump.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,145 posts)elleng
(131,369 posts)oldsoftie
(12,665 posts)Its going tp come down to the Dems getting a big turnout
Walleye
(31,147 posts)ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)Biden. I do get where youre coming from though.
Oklahoma will go Trump.
DC and NM Biden.
These folks vote down ballot Republican. And we will not have political discussions. Maybe my daughter will influence them at some point.
I hope many other Republicans will just not show up.
HighFired49
(351 posts)Right now with 65% of votes counted Trump has 156,000+ and Biden has 44,000+.
Aussie105
(5,484 posts)That Republicans who saw Trump as a shining hope for their inner wish fulfillment look back at his failed performance while in office, and are bored with Trump.
Or at least not wanting a replay of Trump's dismal performance in his 4 years in the White House.
Even children who are promised something by their parents get tired of waiting when the promises don't materialise.
Beartracks
(12,835 posts)It's their nature. It's why they love him, and, more importantly, what he stands for. MAGA is an unfortunate mindset that predates it's being identified as "MAGA." And that won't change with them, even after Trump's in the dustbin of history, or the slammer.
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StarryNite
(9,472 posts)I'm glad to hear some people are paying attention and realizing dump doesn't give a hoot about them. He's just a user.
JohnSJ
(92,502 posts)NBachers
(17,185 posts)ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)lees1975
(3,922 posts)Even tonight, MSNBC has mentioned this a couple of times. In some places, its even higher than that.
So have hope. Trump kills everything he touches and he's past his prime on the Presidency. He had a shot, failed, and he's not going to get another one.
PortTack
(32,820 posts)calimary
(81,586 posts)If there are enough of them, those little bits can turn into whole mountain ranges.
ZonkerHarris
(24,291 posts)yeah she voted Trump the last two times. sigh
I saw it as a good sign too.
ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)happybird
(4,666 posts)who also voted for him twice so I feel your pain. Since we live in the same state, we joke about how our votes cancel each others out. My father votes blue so we are still coming out ahead, at least in my immediate family.
Dorian Gray
(13,523 posts)they're in Florida. They didn't last time. (They did in 16.). My dad pulled the lever for Biden last time and my mom abstained. This time I think they're both abstaining. They really don't like Biden. They really hate trump. And they're in their late 80s and feel like voting is up to us who will have to live with the results long term.
I don't know whether to be happy they're not voting R or be sad they won't vote for Biden, but I'll take it for now. (Getting them to move toward Biden would be easier than Trump, so there's still time.)
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)lark
(23,191 posts)Hoping she doesn't vote for him in the general as well, but she's 81 and has voted in every election for the R or not voted at all on that line - like with Rick Scott.
usonian
(9,963 posts)The "World's greatest winner" suffered loss after loss, and like with football, after losing endlessly, people stop watching, and only diehard fans remain.
Or the team just leaves town. No Oakland or San Diego team(s) in particular. They move so often in these money grabs that one needs a scorecard to track moves.
A new grift awaits.
These billion dollar stadiums at taxpayer expense are the greatest grift outside of politics.
Hotels and golf courses are not funded this way.
And he did try to get in to football.
hueymahl
(2,510 posts)Just not sure yet if the problem is bigger for Trump or Biden
SWBTATTReg
(22,201 posts)Biden. I would have thought by now that these so called 3rd party candidates would have gotten the drift that they are not going anywhere being an independent candidate. I suspect that Kennedy is running solely on his name recognition and nothing else. He exploded onto the scene and viola! He expected that Oh, a Kennedy, vote for him!! Yeah, right.
He doesn't come close to the charisma that either John or Robert Kennedy had before either of them was shot. I still grieve for them today.
ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)Im seeing this happen with my anti vax republican nephew down in Texas. Hes all in for RFK jr.
Otterdaemmerung
(78 posts)... albeit in the big blue dot of Memphis, and I'm chomping at the bit to get out of this state and move to NM. Las Cruces, to be exact. I can't stomach the idea of giving my future tax revenues to this state.
ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)Truly a good place to be.
MuseRider
(34,136 posts)for all of us. It was a dismal morning here. We need something to hope on, thanks!
Turbineguy
(37,412 posts)I hope enough people figure this out. It's not that difficult.
PortTack
(32,820 posts)guru at msnbc is saying that Biden voters are switching to frump! Thats just nuts!
BaronChocula
(1,628 posts)In 2024 we're seeing less Trump crap on people's lawns and we're hearing from more ex-trumpophiles (being polite). I don't hear the word being used in the mainstream news (surprise) but this is real-time trump fatigue. My feeling is that the fatigue will only grow.
Cherokee100
(270 posts)My son in law, ordered his two oldest boys, to vote for 'orange jesus/benedict donald', in 2020. One did, the other one moved out. Trump/Putin truly is dividing this country.
ALBliberal
(2,358 posts)I dont like these in laws politics but I credit them for being supportive of Covid vaccine when my daughter insisted (if they were to see their grandson) and other vaccine updates she required of all of us. And I credit them with using their morals and brains to discern that Trump is caca. I dont believe my son in law ever voted MAGA. Moving him to Dem column? Ill leave that to my daughter.
Yay for the kiddo that moved out! I hope hes doing well in life.