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Trump and 7 of his co-defendants have filed an appeal against judge McAfee's decision to keep Fani Willis on the case.
Has anyone ever heard of the term "certificate of immediate review?"
The defendants do not have the ability to directly appeal McAfees decision at this stage, so they've asked the judge to approve a certificate of immediate review that would put the matter before an appeals court.
If the appeals court reviews the matter, that could potentially lead to a pause of the overall proceedings in the election interference case.
I mean seriously, at some point there has to be a limit on the number of appeals, and if there isn't we need to fix our judicial system.
dem4decades
(11,307 posts)marble falls
(57,362 posts)... for example, the Fani Willis appointment of Nathan Wade. Took two weeks to straighten, if he'd waited til the guilty verdict it may have months.
These are all legal moves that you and I could use if we were ever in TFG's legal straights.
NanaCat
(1,333 posts)He's fast running out of road for appeals of any kind.
Also, they're moves we could use if we had the money for it. Most of us don't have the kind of money to let lawyers run amok with constant delay tactics.
marble falls
(57,362 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,107 posts)Every appeal delays a trial before the election, his major goal. He is banking on being installed as president again through Republican vote manipulation and violent intimidation of voters by his supporters. He can then make the federal cases go away and stall indefinitely on state cases with the ridiculous rule that presidents cant be prosecuted for crimes while in office. And we can have a safe bet in saying that Trump would commit many new crimes in a second term, especially those bringing in a lot of money for himself.
bluestarone
(17,067 posts)TFG has surely PROVED that.
Access to money is crucial - but the limit on appeals is set by the rules. If he has hit the limit on appeals, all the money in the world won't buy him another.
On the flip side. Most people don't have the money (or motivation) to exercise their full rights to appeal.
Kid Berwyn
(14,992 posts)They've got Judge Aileen Cannon thinking the Presidential Records Act is what the Top Secret documents case is really all about -- a sideshow notion straight outta Stephen Miller.
onenote
(42,783 posts)And are you suggesting that a party should be prevented from filing an appeal in a case because of his or her having filed appeals in other cases in other courts even where the issue raised in the appeal is different from any issue raised in an appeal in another court? Because this is the first appeal that Trump has filed in the Georgia case as far as I know and, obviously, the first that relates to the Fani Willis disqualification issue.
Put another way -- do you think that Jack Smith should be limited in how many appeals he can attempt to file with respect to rulings by Judge Cannon?
gab13by13
(21,442 posts)but it has become clear to this non-lawyer that it is one thing to file appeals with the intent to win the appeal and another thing to file appeals, many frivolous, with the express purpose to delay the trial.
We citizens also have the right to a speedy, fair trial. I would like to know if I am voting for a convicted felon. This appeal will also be used to smear Fani Willis more so than judge McAfee already has. These attacks on Fani are laying the groundwork for the Georgia legislature to remove her from office.
Fani Willis showed bad judgment, period, she did nothing to warrant her removal.
ScratchCat
(2,002 posts)The judge would have to allow such, which is not typical and would make no sense here.
Emile
(23,027 posts)almost here.
gab13by13
(21,442 posts)I did a post that showed he borrowed 100 million from Axos bank in San Diego to pay off another of his loans that was due. Someone pointed out that is something that poor people do, use one credit card to pay off another credit card.
I just feel it in my bones that someone will bail him out, they have all his life.
Emile
(23,027 posts)somebody who has money to blow always comes around and bails the con man out. I'm afraid it will be somebody like Putin who wants to control the United States.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)It's not a flaw - it's a feature.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)Generally, they are limited to the state or federal supreme Court, and (unlike the original appeal), the are completely up to the discretion of the court.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)He has not exceeded them.
Must people here have not watched other cases as closely as they are watching the many .cases happening simultaneously. If you haven't watched a single case this closely, you aren't aware of the appeals to which everyone is entitled. Because you are now watching multiple trials, which it is hard for even experts to keep track of, they all merge together - and it feels like they are all coming from one case.
NanaCat
(1,333 posts)A public service requirement for every American to work in some form of government for one year, and that would include in the court system (bailiffs or clerks for docket scheduling, pre-trial services, jury scheduling, & etc ).
If every American had to get up close and personal with their government or court system, we'd have far less ignorance of how things work in this country.
But even just beefing up the civics classes in high school would be a good start. It's a bit frightening how much ignorance (factual, not perjorative) there is in this group of people who are passionate about democracy. Even more scary to think about what that likely means about the general population.
forthemiddle
(1,383 posts)But he is not below the law either. He gets the same exact rights that any other criminal suspect gets, regardless if we'd like it to move faster.
The old saying of the "wheels of justice spin slowly" unfortunately goes works for Trump, just as it may benefit everyone else at some point.
When all of these lawsuits came out the experts were saying they would never be settled before the election, and it looks like that will be the case.