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gab13by13

(21,442 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:05 AM Mar 19

Is There No Limit To Trump's Appeals

Trump and 7 of his co-defendants have filed an appeal against judge McAfee's decision to keep Fani Willis on the case.

Has anyone ever heard of the term "certificate of immediate review?"

The defendants do not have the ability to directly appeal McAfee’s decision at this stage, so they've asked the judge to approve a “certificate of immediate review” that would put the matter before an appeals court.

If the appeals court reviews the matter, that could potentially lead to a pause of the overall proceedings in the election interference case.

I mean seriously, at some point there has to be a limit on the number of appeals, and if there isn't we need to fix our judicial system.

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Is There No Limit To Trump's Appeals (Original Post) gab13by13 Mar 19 OP
It's already fixed- for the rich and powerful. dem4decades Mar 19 #1
What delays he takes now shuts the door on a corresponding appeal after the guilty verdict ... marble falls Mar 19 #2
And the beauty of it is NanaCat Mar 19 #14
TFG is running out of road. marble falls Mar 19 #20
Trump learned long ago how to manipulate the court system. Lonestarblue Mar 19 #3
I guess you can as many as your money can buy bluestarone Mar 19 #4
Nope. Ms. Toad Mar 19 #17
Until he runs out of money, his lawyers will find a way to delay. Kid Berwyn Mar 19 #5
I'm sure lawyers in Georgia have heard the term "certificate of immediate review' since it's part of the georgia code onenote Mar 19 #6
I am not a lawyer which is obvious, gab13by13 Mar 19 #7
As noted, they don't have the right to appeal ScratchCat Mar 19 #16
He is being proven to be broke. I think the limit is Emile Mar 19 #8
I agree with you 100% gab13by13 Mar 19 #9
He is a grifter living off other people's money. But Emile Mar 19 #11
How long until he begins to appeal his appeals? kentuck Mar 19 #10
Appeals to appeals are very limited. Ms. Toad Mar 19 #13
There are limits, applicable to everyone in Trump's situation. Ms. Toad Mar 19 #12
I've long said that we need to have NanaCat Mar 19 #18
Agreed. Ms. Toad Mar 19 #23
Trump in not above the law forthemiddle Mar 19 #15
In this country you are innocent until proven broke. Emile Mar 19 #19
That is pretty accurate! forthemiddle Mar 19 #22
As long as he has lawyers who are willing to work for free Poiuyt Mar 19 #21

marble falls

(57,362 posts)
2. What delays he takes now shuts the door on a corresponding appeal after the guilty verdict ...
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:25 AM
Mar 19

... for example, the Fani Willis appointment of Nathan Wade. Took two weeks to straighten, if he'd waited til the guilty verdict it may have months.

These are all legal moves that you and I could use if we were ever in TFG's legal straights.

NanaCat

(1,333 posts)
14. And the beauty of it is
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:09 AM
Mar 19

He's fast running out of road for appeals of any kind.

Also, they're moves we could use if we had the money for it. Most of us don't have the kind of money to let lawyers run amok with constant delay tactics.

Lonestarblue

(10,107 posts)
3. Trump learned long ago how to manipulate the court system.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:32 AM
Mar 19

Every appeal delays a trial before the election, his major goal. He is banking on being installed as president again through Republican vote manipulation and violent intimidation of voters by his supporters. He can then make the federal cases go away and stall indefinitely on state cases with the ridiculous rule that presidents can’t be prosecuted for crimes while in office. And we can have a safe bet in saying that Trump would commit many new crimes in a second term, especially those bringing in a lot of money for himself.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
17. Nope.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:15 AM
Mar 19

Access to money is crucial - but the limit on appeals is set by the rules. If he has hit the limit on appeals, all the money in the world won't buy him another.

On the flip side. Most people don't have the money (or motivation) to exercise their full rights to appeal.

Kid Berwyn

(14,992 posts)
5. Until he runs out of money, his lawyers will find a way to delay.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:39 AM
Mar 19

They've got Judge Aileen Cannon thinking the Presidential Records Act is what the Top Secret documents case is really all about -- a sideshow notion straight outta Stephen Miller.

onenote

(42,783 posts)
6. I'm sure lawyers in Georgia have heard the term "certificate of immediate review' since it's part of the georgia code
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:43 AM
Mar 19
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-5/chapter-6/article-2/section-5-6-34/

And are you suggesting that a party should be prevented from filing an appeal in a case because of his or her having filed appeals in other cases in other courts even where the issue raised in the appeal is different from any issue raised in an appeal in another court? Because this is the first appeal that Trump has filed in the Georgia case as far as I know and, obviously, the first that relates to the Fani Willis disqualification issue.

Put another way -- do you think that Jack Smith should be limited in how many appeals he can attempt to file with respect to rulings by Judge Cannon?

gab13by13

(21,442 posts)
7. I am not a lawyer which is obvious,
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:05 AM
Mar 19

but it has become clear to this non-lawyer that it is one thing to file appeals with the intent to win the appeal and another thing to file appeals, many frivolous, with the express purpose to delay the trial.

We citizens also have the right to a speedy, fair trial. I would like to know if I am voting for a convicted felon. This appeal will also be used to smear Fani Willis more so than judge McAfee already has. These attacks on Fani are laying the groundwork for the Georgia legislature to remove her from office.

Fani Willis showed bad judgment, period, she did nothing to warrant her removal.

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
16. As noted, they don't have the right to appeal
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:15 AM
Mar 19

The judge would have to allow such, which is not typical and would make no sense here.

gab13by13

(21,442 posts)
9. I agree with you 100%
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:31 AM
Mar 19

I did a post that showed he borrowed 100 million from Axos bank in San Diego to pay off another of his loans that was due. Someone pointed out that is something that poor people do, use one credit card to pay off another credit card.

I just feel it in my bones that someone will bail him out, they have all his life.

Emile

(23,027 posts)
11. He is a grifter living off other people's money. But
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:39 AM
Mar 19

somebody who has money to blow always comes around and bails the con man out. I'm afraid it will be somebody like Putin who wants to control the United States.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
13. Appeals to appeals are very limited.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 19

Generally, they are limited to the state or federal supreme Court, and (unlike the original appeal), the are completely up to the discretion of the court.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
12. There are limits, applicable to everyone in Trump's situation.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:04 AM
Mar 19

He has not exceeded them.

Must people here have not watched other cases as closely as they are watching the many .cases happening simultaneously. If you haven't watched a single case this closely, you aren't aware of the appeals to which everyone is entitled. Because you are now watching multiple trials, which it is hard for even experts to keep track of, they all merge together - and it feels like they are all coming from one case.

NanaCat

(1,333 posts)
18. I've long said that we need to have
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:18 AM
Mar 19

A public service requirement for every American to work in some form of government for one year, and that would include in the court system (bailiffs or clerks for docket scheduling, pre-trial services, jury scheduling, & etc ).

If every American had to get up close and personal with their government or court system, we'd have far less ignorance of how things work in this country.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
23. Agreed.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:25 PM
Mar 19

But even just beefing up the civics classes in high school would be a good start. It's a bit frightening how much ignorance (factual, not perjorative) there is in this group of people who are passionate about democracy. Even more scary to think about what that likely means about the general population.

forthemiddle

(1,383 posts)
15. Trump in not above the law
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:13 AM
Mar 19

But he is not below the law either. He gets the same exact rights that any other criminal suspect gets, regardless if we'd like it to move faster.
The old saying of the "wheels of justice spin slowly" unfortunately goes works for Trump, just as it may benefit everyone else at some point.
When all of these lawsuits came out the experts were saying they would never be settled before the election, and it looks like that will be the case.

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