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Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that the problem with the administration's response to the Benghazi attacks has more to do with President Obama than with UN Ambassador Susan Rice, during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," even though congressional Republicans, including McCain, have gone after Rice in recent weeks.
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"Sure," McCain said to the question of whether Rice could do anything to change his mind about her. "She can give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took. I'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her."
Responding to a follow-up question on whether that means McCain is now open to voting for Rice if nominated, McCain replied: "I think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. But she's not the problem. The problem is the president of the United States who in a debate with Mitt Romney said that he had said it was a terrorist attack "
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-obamas-problem-not-ambassador-rice
He's pissed because Barack Obama showed him up before 2008. He's pissed that Barack Obama showed him up in 2008. He's pissed that he lost the 2008 election. He's even more pissed that Mitt lost. See, McCain, like all the other delusional Republicans, actually believed Mitt was on his way to winning. Could you imagine the "in" that would mean for McCain? He would have become an insufferable asshole, bigger than the insufferable asshole he is in defeat.
As for the debate:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101768318
John McCain is not very bright
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/25/1163027/-John-McCain-is-not-very-bright
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)she was on some committe or panel and said something (i cant remember what it was)
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Baghdad while wearing a flak jacket, helmet, surrounded by soldiers, with snipers on nearby roofs and helicopters flying overhead.
She came down on him about how silly it was and his hypocrisy about the whole thing.. something like that.
He's never forgiven her for it.
The guy has needed to be in therapy his entire life, but especially since Vietnam.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)BTW Romney frozen in that expression looks like he has been embalmed.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)After Bush beat him in the 2000 primaries (using some dirty tricks I wouldn't blame McCain for being POd about) and later "won" the election, McCain did what he could to push back against legislation W wanted. He became a "maverick" who was willing to work with Democrats because he saw that as a way of getting even with Bush, not so much because he believed in bipartisanship.
And ever since Obama cleaned his clock in '08, he's been angry and eager to get even. He holds grudges forever. Now it's worse because he no longer has any chance of getting out of the Senate and being appointed to an important Cabinet position. So he'll do what he can to fuck that up for Susan Rice and try to embarrass Obama in the process. He's a bitter, vindictive old asshole.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)was crushed by not only Obama, but the rove/cheney/bush cabal in 2000-- didn't they come out with some sort of nonsense regarding mcCain having a "secret black love child" somewhere?
McCain actually had momentum in that race; IMHO he was told by the cabal to "step aside and wait his turn". that didn't work out very well-- however, he has nobody but himself to blame for going along with the scam.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)wasn't Mc Cain, Feingold a Clinton era reform? your observation about his vindictive personality is spot on.. I am hoping that Az. can dump him next time around.. demographics might seal that whole bunch of assholes fate..
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)to be an attempt at revenge. For example, a couple of years ago Steve Kornacki wrote:
McCains embitterment and sense of victimization only grew, and when Bush was inaugurated, it morphed into startling defiance. The new president pushed for sweeping tax cuts, an article of faith in Republican circles. McCain voted no. The new president called for a patients bill of rights that shielded insurers from lawsuits; McCain demanded that it give patients the right to sue. The new president proclaimed that existing gun laws were more than enough. McCain teamed up with Chuck Schumer to push for background checks at gun shows. And on and on.
Talk swirled of another McCain-Bush race in 2004. McCains aides did nothing to tamp it down; instead, they reminded reporters that McCains political hero was Teddy Roosevelt whod bolted the GOP to run a third-party campaign against a sitting Republican president in 1912. Democrats enticed McCain to leave the GOP and join them and he encouraged their overtures. In June 2001, McCain invited Tom Daschle, then the Senates Democratic leader, to spend a weekend with him at his ranch. (Daschle later said that one of McCains top aides urged him to ask McCain to switch parties.)
Was McCains defiance of his partys leader part of some long-standing ideological rift? Hardly. McCains congressional voting record had always been reliably conservative until Bush had the audacity to beat him in an election. So McCain used ideological dissent to pursue a personal grudge and to position himself for 2004.
http://www.salon.com/2010/04/08/mccain_never_maverick_sore_loser/
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)he ended up on the right side of some issues out of spite... then had to run to the fight in 08.. serves him right..
thanks for the info while i was struggling making a living and didn't pay much attention
rocktivity
(44,580 posts)TWICE.
rocktivity
Kahuna
(27,312 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)he is one of the 'entitled class' because he won the sperm lottery
sofa king
(10,857 posts)After he lost to Senator Obama, McCain had to watch as President Obama pursued a successful and peaceful Presidency.
President Obama easily managed to end the war in Iraq after six years of hard Republican work turning that place into what was to be a permanently occupied (and permanently profitable to a select few) fortress.
He easily killed Osama bin Laden--apparently by following the money trail that the Bush Administration so assiduously obscured.
He forced Republicans to flense half a trillion dollars from the defense budget over ten years.
He snookered Congressional Republicans into voting against a middle class tax cut in an election year, and to agree to the expiration of tax cuts for the rich--which was the one thing Republicans were put in Washington to protect.
President Obama did all of that by masterfully manipulating Republicans in Congress, always holding the carrot of greed in front of their noses while carefully walking them into a new cage.
President Obama didn't just beat John McCain's ass, he beat his ass and then made McCain into a better and more effective Democratic Senator than he ever was as a Republican.
So all of us watching McCain's squirming this week should smile and recall that he's doing it while firmly planted atop his own petard. All he had to do to avoid virtually all of this was do an honest job as Senator. President Obama bet everything on the fact that Republicans couldn't act honestly, even for one week, and he won big for it.
That is what upsets John McCain.
EC
(12,287 posts)Secretary of State...so now he's pissed...Obama "took" the Presidency away form him and now he's "taking" this job from him too.
Oh, yeah on edit: He's also a small enough man to be complaining that he can't believe he lost to a black man.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Once upon a time he was somewhat reasonable. Now he is just an angry bitter old fool. Time to hang up the hat, gramps.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Cha
(297,799 posts)President Obama is not afraid of strong smart women. He's surrounded by them.
Republicans have attacked his wife, his mother-in-law, his daughters, appointees like Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Melody Barnes and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor.
Republicans have gone after Tammy Duckworth on her military record. Teh stoopid ruled. Scott Brown went after Elizabeth Warren on her pride in having Native American ancestry.
So McCain lost an election partly because of his choice of a female running mate. Her selectionbased on her having a uterus rather than brain cellswas stupid.