Do you agree with James Carville's advice?

[senseandsensibility]

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He was just on CNN saying that Biden should be hitting cheato hard NOW. He emphasized that the loser is back on his heels, and now is the time to hit. He acknowledged that Biden is not a good attack dog, and suggested surrogates.

When it comes to surrogates, there are plenty to be had. I like Swalwell, and there are many others. Lets go, Dems!

[SarahD]

1. I hate to kick Trump while he's down.

But let me change into my steel toed work boots and I'll be right with you.

[senseandsensibility]

2. Lol

[Abolishinist]

17. Or, you could go all in with Rosa Klebb's knife shoes!

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[rubbersole]

22. Bond...

...Cantposta Bond.

[Abolishinist]

25. Oh that is good, very very good!

There's an ad in there somewhere.

From the Bondsman with Love, starring Cantposta Bond

[rubbersole]

37. Wish I could take credit for it.

There was a meme with that caption here Monday with his picture in that ill-fitting weird tux. Cracked me up.

[ShazzieB]

51. I saw that, too!

Very funny!

[Conjuay]

67. That tux

Was from when he was 6'2" and 215 pounds.

[calimary]

76. OMG!!! That is The BEST!!!

"Bond. Cantposta Bond."

[wanderer54]

56. Poison-tipped blade!

Poison-tipped blade!!!

[Irish_Dem]

3. Raskin was on the attack today in congress and it sounded great.

It was humiliating for the GOP during the last day of the Biden farce impeachment hearing.

[COL Mustard]

4. Yup. Need to be hammering him.

Show the differences between the two men and their policies. Hammer it until November.

[calguy]

5. If it was me, I'd be hitting him right now with the small stuff

But I wouldn't bring out the big guns until after they've had their convention and officially given him the nomination. Make sure they can't change their minds at the last minute to withdraw him. I say start the scorched earth campaign during our own convention when voters start to focus on the election. Big money spent on ads now is quickly forgotten seven months out.

[SergeStorms]

57. Hit him hard...

now, and all the way to election day.

Hopefully the Big Orange Pig will stroke-out before election day.

Hey, you have to have a dream.

[LisaM]

68. Yes! I agree.

Keep some arrows in the quiver, but shoot a few poison darts now.

[Irish_Dem]

6. We cannot let go of our democracy without fighting and fighting hard.

[BeyondGeography]

7. There has been so much fresh fraud and traitor content just this week it would be a crime not to pounce

So hell to the yes on that.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. For this thread

[malaise]

11. Ridicule the fool

[Ocelot II]

9. Sounds good to me.

I agree that Biden isn't the best attack dog, but there are plenty of toothy, snarly surrogates. I say, unleash the hounds.

[calimary]

79. And when he does, he uses a very light, gentle, folksy, "harmless" little remark.

Biden has a staff full of surrogates who can hit below the belt so he doesn't have to.

David reportedly only had a slingshot, but he killed Goliath with it.

[dutch777]

10. The Raskins, Swalwells and so on are great but will need to become ads that get broad dissemination not just...

...evening news sound bites. And as others said, we are still 7 months out and while we can plant seeds now, wait a bit to really pepper the electorate. They will tire of the message over such a long time.

[Lunabell]

12. Arise, Dark Brandon!! The time is now!!

[Evolve Dammit]

13. Grab him by the balls and squeeze the fluids out

[Hermit-The-Prog]

71. Target is too small. Pound his ego -- big, easy target.

[Earth-shine]

14. We can't just win. We need to win big.

[BaronChocula]

15. What surprises me

is that the President has been around long enough to know the ins and outs of campaigning and maybe he knows his way works, but why not throw everything at the Dookie of Maga Loco early and often? Perhaps he thinks that early attacks fall on deaf ears and by the time they're heard, they've lost their punch. I'm just spitballing, but the whole "Come From Behind Joe" narrative makes me a little nervous. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[musclecar6]

16. I completely agree

With Carville. Now is the time to pour it on and keep pummeling him daily till Nov 5. Don't let up, as this very evil person wants to be a modern day Hitler. The whole country needs to be all hands on deck to save our democracy and to clinch it at the ballot box without fail.

[Happy Hoosier]

18. Yes, we need to give this everything we've got. NT

[Warpy]

19. Carville is wrong. Biden has been hitting TFG

and he's not as much of a passive gentleman as Carville thinks he is.

He's able to be a bare knuckled Irish brawler when he needs to be.

Take that to the bank, Carville.

[soldierant]

48. I agree - and I love it about him.

However, it never hurts to have help. And we do have some attack dogs par excellence.

[brush]

20. Gov. Newsom of Calif., also Rep. Schiff of Calif. are good surrogates.

Rep. Porter and Lee of Calif. also while they're still in Congress. Gov. Whitmer of Michigan too.

[catchnrelease]

45. Yes

Newsom has been doing a good job of riling up the R's. He's so smart and fast on his feet verbally.

I think it's good to throw everything at tfg and his minions soon and often, especially while t is dealing with his multiple court cases. Pummel him from all directions with jabs big and small to wear his pea brain out. We know it's not hard to fluster him with insults, and pointing out his weaknesses, mistakes etc., so let him have it. Ideally he'd stroke out or have an aneurysm, we could only hope, but at very least it keeps him making more and more stupid, offensive statements that can then be used against him.

[LudwigPastorius]

21. Sure, Joe's campaign should be hammering Trump.

But, they’ve actually been doing that. (See the SOTU speech.)

Trump, and his criminality, is a pretty widely known quantity. There are, after all, 3 big legal proceedings currently jockeying for position to go to trial, and most of the media is covering their developments.

What is NOT getting covered well enough is the booming economy, and pocketbook issues will be at least as important to most voters as Trump is.

Carville should realize that his 1992 advice to Clinton still holds sway, “It’s the economy, stupid.”

[elleng]

27. Yes, SOTU speech made IMPRESSIONS.

[TheKentuckian]

23. 1000% scorched earth forever ago is fine by me.

[CrispyQ]

24. It's long past time for the dems to show some fight.

We've been polite for too long.

[elleng]

26. others have said the same thing, imo, and MAYBE, but not sure about timing.

[nikatnyte]

28. YES, YES, AND HELL YES!

Dems don't do this nearly enough, while Rethugs do it ALL THE TIME.

[Alliepoo]

29. Heck yes I agree with Carville

Hit dump hard and keep hammering all the way to November.

[UTUSN]

30. I'll take it. But then I'll take whatever works

[OAITW r.2.0]

31. It's Trump v. Biden now.

Now the election begins. Trump will be providing all of the ammo that the Biden campaign needs, Just broadcast what Trump says. Then counter with a sane message.

[czarjak]

32. Never give a Sucker/Loser an even break.

Finish him PRETTY PLEASE.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. Didn't Carville learn anything from Bill Clinton?

The big dog always let his surrogates do the dirty work.

[TexasBushwhacker]

34. I think it's a little early

But I would like to see more hard hits from anyone but white men. The white guys can criticize TSF too, but we need to hear from women, African Americans, Latinos, young people. We're the party of the big tent.

[Blue Owl]

35. No mercy

Time for the fat fuck to get a taste of his own fucking medicine

[Hamlette]

36. I want something to counter Trump's gloom and doom. We are a great country, not at all like Trump says it is.

[Cha]

38. TSF is Not arguring that he's innocent he's arguing that he has a right to be a Criminal

Link to tweet

Yes Hammer Hard and HAMMER Relentlessly.

[Kid Berwyn]

39. It is amazing.

I wonder if he thinks the country will forgive a traitor?

[Cha]

46. It's what Megalomaniacs Do.

The cult doesn't care and he knows it.

We have to win the Swing States bc of the damn electoral college as you know.

[AverageOldGuy]

40. There's a practice in many organizations . . .

. . . and especially when it comes to the President: The mission of everyone below the boss is to "keep the shit off the boss's shoes."

When someone needs to get canned, slapped around, snatched up and set on the right path, the task of doing this often falls to subordinates . . . let the boss be the happy guy who pins medals on people, marches at the head of the column . . . let the Chief of Staff cut people's balls off.

We all need to be taking the fight to the MAGAts.

In my little corner of rural VA, we have set up a committee of Democrats from eight counties. We are
-- writing letters to editors in our local and regional newspapers;
-- calling out the lies on Facebook pages;
-- showing the flag with Biden-Harris yard signs and bumper stickers;
-- and taking no shit from the local MAGAts when they challenge us.

Every Democrat needs to do the same . . . let PRESIDENT BIDEN be Presidential, above the fray, kiss babies . . .

[littlemissmartypants]

54. Right On! I love this! This should be an OP! Please create one! ❤️

[mac56]

41. When they go low, we go high.

When we go high, they win elections.

[Attilatheblond]

42. The Ragin' Cajun is spot on

And I agree with you, Swalwell* could lead the attacks, followed by all those former Trump Administration truth tellers who know what a maniac and threat to the US Donald Trump is.

* running gag around my house is pretending to be Ted Lieu or Adam Schiff discussing whose turn it is to supervise Swalwell and keep him outta trouble. We LOVES him here at Chez´ Blond.

[yellowdogintexas]

74. Rep Jared Moskowitz and the Putin mask!!! Rep Jasmine Crockett every time she says anything

This generation of Democratic House Members are kicking butt and taking names.

I think we have surrogates at every level of experience, who can take on anyone!!!

Rep Crockett is running unopposed, you know. I look forward to seeing her out on the campaign with Rep Colin Allred going after Rafael Eduardo.

[cachukis]

43. Nag at him like stink on shit.

[SupportSanity]

44. I agree with James Carville. He's been

arguing for Dems to go on the offensive for the last couple of weeks.

He has a podcast (every Thursday) "Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt"
and has been pounding this point for the last couple of weeks on it.

Republicans have often been attack dogs for quite a while.
It's great to see dems starting to give it back.

It looks like now's the time.

[Pluvious]

47. Biden popped TSF a good one today...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218796445

[liberaltrucker]

49. In other words:

"When your opponent is drowning, throw the motherfucker an anchor".

-James Carville, 1992

[oasis]

50. Take names and kick ass.

It's past time.

[screamcheese]

52. Rapist

I think calling him a rapist or referring to him as "the rapist" at every opportunity would cause his defenders to have to clarify that he is only guilty of sexual assault. And, this charge seems to really get under his orange skin.

[LiberalLovinLug]

64. I agree that Democrats should be referring to him as a rapist every time.

The judge has stated:

"A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood."

I think using that term "trumps" the other diabolical criminal names to give him. Business fraudster, Top secret files thief, even an Insurrectionist.

They should have ads saying, 'Do you think a rapist should be President of the US?". Or run ads in States with women MAGAts like Nancy Mace, about her supporting a rapist. I think that judges conclusions gives them cover to use that term.

At the very least I'd like to see some of these Trump humpers be uncomfortable and have to defend these kinds of ads.

[LiberalLovinLug]

65. Call him what he is

The judge has stated:

"A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood."

I think using that term "trumps" the other diabolical criminal names to give him. Business fraudster, Top secret files thief, even an Insurrectionist.

They should have ads saying, 'Do you think a rapist should be President of the US?". Or run ads in States with women MAGAts like Nancy Mace, about her supporting a rapist. I think that judges conclusions gives them cover to use that term.

At the very least I'd like to see some of these Trump humpers be uncomfortable and have to defend these kinds of ads.

[CTyankee]

69. what he did to e. jean carrol was so disgusting it makes you sick.

More women should hear about that episode in the dressing room of the department store. I was so horrified it was hard to deal with. that story won't be easy to tell because it's not something you can go into detail in publicly. As testimony, it was one thing but I think there should be a way to share more of the horrifying details of how he assaulted her...

[dlk]

53. Desperate times require desperate measures

Trump is a monster who has deeply damaged our country. Whatever it takes to crush him like a cockroach is what must be done. Our democracy depends on it.

[doc03]

55. I agree, just like the border bill that Trump and Johnson killed. The border crisies was handed to us

on a silver platter and it has been forgotten already. Biden made a great SOTU speech a couple weeks ago
and a couple days later it is forgotten. Where are the surrogates? The Republicans seem to have an endless
supply of surrogates to cover Faux and Newsmax 24/7.

[SouthernDem4ever]

58. I'm already a surrogate - just doesn't matter what you say to magat lunkheads.

They're so stupid.

[Blue Idaho]

59. I always agree with James Carville. nt.

[world wide wally]

60. It as ALWAYS a good time to hit Trump

[Demsrule86]

61. Yes...good advice.

Blow up his chances!!!!

[Shermann]

62. Attack dog is often the running mate's role

Sic 'em Kamala!

[senseandsensibility]

70. Normally I would agree

and with her prosecutor experience, she'd be excellent, but unfortunately, she is judged so unfairly. The media is just salivating to label her "angry" and "unlikable". Dem women can't win.

[Shermann]

73. Fair point

She doesn't have to go full Kavanaugh mode though. She could take an amused and mocking tone. That's the most effective attack against bad faith debaters anyway.

[beemerphill]

63. Great Advice

Carville is one of the brightest political minds and is worth listening to. If he figures it is a good time to take off the gloves it probably is.

[mvd]

66. Not always but sometimes

He can be street savvy and have good instincts there. I agree that we should hit TFG hard but not in a way that only gives him more attention. Also, the President can get a mad side, but we do need surrogates.

[samsingh]

72. Biden should continue hitting traitor trump hard

[oldsoftie]

75. Bring up him NOT signing the ILL pledge NOT to overthrow the govt

Its asked of all candidates but not required. THIS should get hammered home

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/07/donald-trump-illinois-loyalty-oath-overthrow-government

[gibraltar72]

77. Carville has good instincts

We should be hitting he and any supporters in the nuts now!

[rampartc]

78. kick him til he's selling trump brand pencils on wall st

but yes. use surrogates. biden remain presidential.

"my name is joe biden and i approve this message."

[Greybnk48]

80. Absolutely. Go after him HARD!

And don't let up.