NAZI Kirk vows: 'If this election doesn't go our way the next day we fight'

[Kid Berwyn]

Thus sprach Chuckie, the frustrated future Führer.



Trump ally’s stunning request: 'If this election doesn’t go our way the next day we fight'

by David Badash
Alternet.org, March 21, 2024

Christian nationalist and far-right political activist Charlie Kirk, a top influencer and Trump ally, urged supporters at a faith-based event on Sunday to “fight” if Donald Trump doesn’t win the 2024 presidential election.

“I want to make sure that we all make a commitment that if this election doesn’t go our way, the next day we fight,” Kirk told the audience at “Freedom Night,” hosted by Pastor John Randall.

“It’s a very important thing,” Kirk added before saying, “a lot of people don’t want to hear that. They say, ‘What do you mean it doesn’t go our way? It has to go our way. We have to win.’ I agree.”

Kirk is a member of the highly-secretive Council for National Policy, a purveyor of Donald Trump’s “Big Lie,” and has repeatedly promoted the false claim that U.S. elections are “rigged.”

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https://www.alternet.org/trump-charlie-kirk/

Image source: https://www.cltampa.com/tampa/photos-neo-nazis-gather-outside-turning-point-usa-summit-at-tampa-convention-center/Slideshow/13849084

[Mister Ed]

1. The next day they fight and lose. n/t

[Kid Berwyn]

2. Yep.

Forewarned. Forearmed. And ALL good citizens who will do ALL they can to defend, protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

[Model35mech]

3. A a christian nationalist's terror threat

Just a tad over the line to Un-American?

Or is this just America Made Great??????

[Kid Berwyn]

5. Excellent questions members of a real press corps would ask.

While Charlie Kirk is the founder and president of Turning Point USA and a "Christian nationalist and far-right political activist," Corporate McPravda's best wordsmiths NEVER call the greasy weasel what he really is: Charlie Kirk is a NAZI.

[Think. Again.]

4. And the media tried to spin trump's "bloodbath"...

...words into something about the automobile industry.

[Kid Berwyn]

7. Democracy needs to put the screws on Corporate McPravda to start them telling the truth.

Unfortunately, they answer to a higher power.



How corporate media got that way:

The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy

Additional important history to know...

Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda

The Attack on Democracy

The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

Source: TUC Radio

Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/

Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/

[Think. Again.]

9. Thanks for that!

[Aristus]

6. "Gunner - Co-ax - Troops!"

Translation from the original Tanker: "Gunner, switch to the coaxial machine gun and prepare to fire. There are a bunch of Christian Nationalist nimrods in our way. I know they look tough with those AR-15's, but take them out. I don't want them scratching our paint-job."

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Members of the U.S. Armed Forces know something the NAZI doesn't.

Seems the GOP doesn't know much, though. And I THINK IT'S ON PURPOSE...

Not One Single Republican Votes for Probe of Neo-Nazis in US Military and Police

Zero House Republicans supported a measure requiring the Pentagon and federal law enforcement agencies to publish a report on countering white supremacist and neo-Nazi activity in their ranks.

KENNY STANCIL
CommonDreams, July 14, 2022

Zero House Republicans on Wednesday supported a measure requiring the Pentagon and federal law enforcement agencies to publish a report on countering white supremacist and neo-Nazi activity in their ranks.

Rep. Brad Schneider's (D-Ill.) amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2023 directing the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, and Department of Defense "to publish a report that analyzes and sets out strategies to combat white supremacist and neo-Nazi activity in the uniformed services and federal law enforcement agencies" passed in a party-line 218-208 vote.

Among present lawmakers, Democrats were unified in support and Republicans in opposition. Reps. Theodore Deutch (D-Fla.), Kevin Brady (R-Texas), Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) did not vote.

Snip…

Schneider's proposal requests "figures on the number of people who were discharged from uniformed services or law enforcement because of situations involving white supremacy and neo-Nazi activity," The Hill reported. It also calls for "information on how the agency leaders responded to 'planned or effectuated incidents' connected to white supremacist and neo-Nazi ideology."

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/14/not-one-single-republican-votes-probe-neo-nazis-us-military-and-police

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. Tut, tut now -- those are Christian Nationalist 'influencers' your gunner is splattering.

We are supposed to ignore the swastikas and 'SS' emblems.

[jmowreader]

36. Aristus, are you kidding?

You KNOW the co-ax is the wrong weapon to use against Christian nationalists. It'll work but it takes too fucking long.

M1028 canister out of the main gun is the right weapon to use. The company that makes it says it has "devastating anti-personnel lethality for the Abrams tank."

(For the non-GIs in the crowd, "canister" is a shotgun shell for a tank's main gun. A tank cartridge looks like a round of rifle ammunition, just vastly larger. Canister ammo has a...well, canister...where the bullet would be, and it's full of little tungsten balls. Throw one in the gun and fire it; when the canister leaves the end of the barrel it disintegrates and the little tungsten balls, being propelled by the fifteen pounds of gunpowder in the cartridge, cancel Christmas for anyone within 500 meters of the nose of the tank.)

And the best part is, you only have to fire one. Send the first one downrange and the rest of them will leave...like, right fucking now, and as fast as their little legs will carry them. You wouldn't necessarily even need to fire it at anyone; superelevate your main gun so the little balls will whiz over their heads, fire, and these guys will get the hint that their lives are in immediate danger.

[Aristus]

39. Right you are!

The M-1028 cannister round wasn't fielded until after I ETS'd in 1993. Combustible casing 120mm round technology back then limited us to the sabot and the HEAT round. For a little while I even crewed Abrams' with the old 105mm gun, for which they did have both canister and HESH rounds. But we never used them. Not even as practice rounds.

Any time I wonder if I really accomplished anything worthwhile when I was in the Army, I just remember that I could routinely wrestle a 120mm HEAT round out of the ammo compartment, flip it back-to-front, ram it into the gun breach, and have it ready to fire in around four seconds. My tank commander (who otherwise didn't like me very much) called me "Rapid-Fire."

[LakeArenal]

8. This time the President will call for martial law.

No sucker punches this time.

[Kid Berwyn]

13. It must've escaped Nutty Chuckie's notice.

Can't really blame the little guy, though, as he's never served his country a day in his miserable life.

[Scrivener7]

10. Oh, go ahead, fuckhead. See where it gets you.

[Kid Berwyn]

14. The only thing left of Charlie would be an oily stain on the sidewalk...

...where he shit his pants before vaporization.

[durablend]

11. Please

At the sign of gunfire Charlie Kirk will either scamper under the bed or under mom's dress whichever is closer.

[Kid Berwyn]

17. I notice his supporters wear hoods and masks...

...hiding under a bed or skirt shows, in addition to being a coward, Chuckie Kirk really is cheap.

[Renew Deal]

15. More Ted Nugent style "dead or in jail" BS

Kirk will be the first to run FROM a fight. He'll do what Trump did and get his followers locked up (or worse) while he makes money.

[Kid Berwyn]

26. Kirk's pa was Project Manager for Trump Tower NYC

Excerpt...

Charlie Kirk’s father, Robert W. Kirk, was the project architect manager for Trump Tower in New York. Charlie Kirk volunteered for Donald Trump’s Trump’s presidential campaign, devoting two months during the election cycle.10 Kirk has consistently praised Trump, his family, and the Trump Administration in social media and in news outlets like Fox News.11 He also appeared along alongside the presidential family on the Hannity show.12

Source: https://www.desmog.com/charlie-kirk//

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One article the ALEC's web scrubbers worked is still on the Waybac:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170227114705im_/

principal
Robert W. Kirk, AIA
Responsibilities
General Manager of Operations, Chief Design Architect and creator of all directions of Architectural Business

Relevant Experience

Project Architect for Trump Tower, NYC, Tropicana Hotel and Casino, Atlantic City, N.J.
Master Planner for Good Samaritan Hospital, Hinsdale, IL
Twenty nine years of custom residential, commercial and industrial architecture
New York Architectural Firms

Swanke Hayden Connell
Welton Beckett Associates
Chicago Architectural Firms

Bertrand Goldberg
Murphy/Jahn Associates
Education
University of Oregon Eugene, Oregon
Bachelor of Architecture, 1976

Professional Affliations
Licensed Architect, State of Illinois, Florida, Wisconsin, New York, Georgia, and Minnesota
AIA Member
NCARB Member

Robert Kirk
Robert Willard Kirk
President

Group A Architects 2009

Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20170227114705/http://www.groupaarch.com/staff/principal.html

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You are absolutely spot-on, Renew Deal. The kid is a coward, an elemental part of part of conservatism.

"A conservative is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run." -- Elbert Hubbard

[bluesbassman]

16. He's in for a big Fuck Around and Find Out moment if he follows through on that threat.

He'll also learn that the crazy only extends so far. Twenty guys in khakis and polo shirts ain't gonna cut it.

[Kid Berwyn]

27. The sappy kulcha warrior wants chaos.

Confusion makes it easier to palm off the phonies he hangs with, such as Sebastian Gorka and Ginni Thomas, seem relatively sane.

They've been with his "Turning Point USA" team, either as an "advisor" to the board of directors or the "honorary" board:

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Turning_Point_USA

More "Make America Goosestep Assholes" IMFO.

[617Blue]

18. Hello CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, WaPo, NYT..........crickets

Do you think crazy drugged up goons with nothing to lose will have any issue committing violence upon your newsrooms and personnel under a Dump presidency?

[Traildogbob]

22. No no no

He is only talking about the Auto industry.
We always misinterpret what they are saying.
(do I really need this smili)

[Kid Berwyn]

30. That's what management's for.

Ownership is safe behind the bullet proof glass or in the armoured BMW.

You are correct, 617Blue, though. The nation's "mainstream news media," the for-profit press, Corporate McPravda, has missed the import of the fascism-comes-to-America-wrapped-in-the-flag-and-carrying-a-Bible story.

For a short while, about 1990-1994, "Lies Of Our Times" tried to correct the record of the paper of record. Can still find a few issues online at the Waybac:

https://archive.org/details/LiesOfOurTimesCollection/Aug1990-V1-N8/

All of the issues once were available. Either we are forgetting or the VRWC's funders are paying handsomely to scrub.

[-misanthroptimist]

19. So they can lose in two different ways on consecutive days.

It should also be noted that Charlie Kirk officially is an anti-American, anti-Constitutional piece of shit.

[Kid Berwyn]

31. I appreciate the candid and accurate description of the NAZI dipwad.

A nice bio:

Charlie Kirk Needed a Friend

The “beanpole of a kid” finally found his clique not in high school, but among elite Republican donors.

by Kyle Spencer
Politico, October 20, 2022

EXCERPT...

Kirk has mythologized this origin story. But in public tellings, he has left out a key detail that paints him in a less heroic light and suggests that even at the end of high school, he still struggled to get along with his peers, even those who shared his political views. As he was planning his new group, he was still affiliated with SOS Liberty. And on the same day he launched The Turning Point, Kirk posted an embittered resignation letter on SOS Liberty’s Facebook page, alluding to disagreements group members were having with him. Kirk accused them of “planning behind my back.” He announced he was going out on his own and invited anyone who wanted to join his new group under his leadership. “I will take the same passion and drive I have and create a bigger, better, smarter, more effective group,” he wrote.

Kirk did eventually go out and do that. But at least at first, his most important allies and friends were not other teens. They were donors, many in their 70s and 80s, who were also his financial supporters. He had met them on the Tea Party circuit, in hotel ballrooms and country club meeting halls, at fundraisers for local politicians and suburban gatherings where he often jumped up, nervously, at first, in an oversized suit and tie to say a few words about the country’s future and his desire to corral young Americans to the GOP.

SNIP...

As time went on and Kirk’s star rose, his roster of supporters began to look more impressive. Eventually, he befriended a politically plugged-in Palm Beach couple, Lee and Allie Hanley. The Hanleys weren’t like some of his earlier supporters who wore athleisure-wear golf shirts and were sometimes gruff. They were an always exquisitely dressed Greenwich, Conn., couple who summered on Fishers Island, the ultra-exclusive WASP enclave off the Connecticut coast, and wintered in Palm Beach at a Mediterranean-style home designed by the iconic architect Maurice Fatio. Lee, the heir to a brick and petroleum fortune, was a Yale alum and track and field star.

SNIP...

With Allie’s influence rubbing off on him and a new stylish wardrobe, Kirk got the “makeover” he needed, Walsh recalls. He replaced his outdated suits with expensive-looking sports coats, which he paired with starched white oxfords and cool streetwear sneakers or leather lace-ups the color of desert sand. Soon, he would don hip-patterned socks and sport a voguish hairdo. His tic waned and the Chicago twang dissipated.

It wouldn’t be long before the Reagan-loving kid from suburban Chicago wasn’t just hitting up the rich for cash. He was hanging with them at their sprawling vacation homes, hunting and fishing with them, attending their lavish birthday celebrations, and having God chat with them on their boats. One fundraising executive, almost twice Kirk’s age, recalls arriving at a donor’s beach house for a meeting and noticing Kirk pacing in the backyard on his cell. He was there as a houseguest. Kirk would soon also be included in important strategy sessions with conservative powerbrokers desperate to overcome Obama-ism and take back Washington in 2016. These would happen in plush living rooms with expensive pieces of period furniture and museum-grade art, far from the McMansion-dotted suburbs where Kirk had grown up.

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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/20/charlie-kirks-republican-friends-00062305

Personally, I think it just if Charlie Kirk should end up in the Thunderdome against Sebastian Gorka armed with gasoline powered chainsaws with no timeouts.

[Ping Tung]

20. Will General Trump be leading the charge dressed in camouflage or the

more traditional white sheet?

[Kid Berwyn]

32. It's like he thinks he's taking a missionary position.

'Beyond hypocritical': Charlie Kirk’s recent Pastors Summit was funded by a 'registered sex offender'

Maya Boddie
Alternet.org, May 27, 2023

Right-wing host and Turning Point USA Chief Executive Officer Charlie Kirk' second-annual Pastors Summit, held in Nashville, Tennessee, was sponsored by "a registered sex offender," Rolling Stone reports.

Rolling Stone notes Kirk has been outspoken amid conservative-led criticism of Target for selling transgender-inclusive youth apparel, alleging the corporation shows "support for grooming kids."

The publication reports:

Rolling Stone has learned that one of the TPUSA summit's corporate sponsors is a Christian fashion company that is led by a registered sex offender, Shawn Bergstrand, who served time in federal prison for attempted 'coercion and enticement' after trying to persuade 'a minor female” to 'engage in sexual activity.'

CEO (of) Rightside Up — a "Christian 'lifestyle apparel' company" — Bergstrand is "a registered sex offender in North Dakota," after being "convicted in 2014 for attempted 'coercion and enticement.'"

CONTINUES (unfortunately for the nation and planet)...

https://www.alternet.org/registered-sex-offender-charlie-kirk/



Place must've been filled with "My Little NAZI" types: white sheets and burning crosses on the outside, Josef Mengele MD and Waffen SS wannabes on the inside. They make themselves attractive to the masses through the symbols they display, but those who know them see they are cowards through and through.

[jmowreader]

37. He will wear a suit

There's a story online that Trump accompanied one of his sons to a football game at the college he attended. When Trump got to the son's room, the son was dressed like you'd dress for a football game. Trump punched him and made him change into a suit before they went to the game.

[NanaCat]

21. Bring it, tiny face

Guess who will be waiting for you before you put on your cosplay traitor outfit before heading to DC?



It's not 2016, anymore, traitor. Your traitor mob will learn how that reality works, one way or another.

[tanyev]

23. He'll be watching any fighting from a remote undisclosed location.

[moondust]

24. How many relatives

of Chuckie and his neo-Nazi gang risked their lives fighting the original Nazi death cult 80 years ago? Somebody needs to ask.

[bluestarone]

25. Yea ok. I'm betting that after you LOSE, you will run to

The BACK of the line, letting everyone else do your fighting.

[LiberalFighter]

28. Do we have enough prison space?

[malaise]

33. Whip their sorry asses

again

[LetMyPeopleVote]

34. Good luck with that

[struggle4progress]

35. "Go to hell! Go directly to hell! Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200"

[jmowreader]

38. You do understand, though...

...that some enterprising young Infantry lieutenant who's good friends with the battalion ammunition supply officer could unscrew the fuzes from a couple dozen 81mm smoke cartridges for mortars, dump out the smoke powder, refill the cartridges with tear gas powder and screw the fuzes back in, then fire some of the rounds upwind of Meal Team Six. They won't kill anyone but CS gas will immediately make you question the direction life has taken you.

[orangecrush]

40. No worries

We got sumpin' for dat ass.

[Iggo]

41. Two things in life are fair game: Nazis and Zombies.

And we’re fresh out of zombies.