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What property of Trump's should the NY A.J. seize first? (Original Post) Emile Mar 23 OP
I'd say claudette Mar 23 #1
His make-up kit lame54 Mar 23 #2
NOT-HOW-THIS-WORKS brooklynite Mar 23 #3
. Emile Mar 23 #10
Just hit everything, all at once, right away,.... Think. Again. Mar 23 #4
Mardo Lardo, then every golf course RainCaster Mar 23 #5
His buddies would just GP6971 Mar 23 #6
Doesn't matter. Take his 757 emblazoned Trump that he takes to his rallies. Squaredeal Mar 24 #40
His warehouse full of knee-length pink ties. Ping Tung Mar 23 #7
I understand that warehouse has an enormous walk-in freezer chuck full of Brother Buzz Mar 23 #13
Don't forget the ketchup packets Wicked Blue Mar 24 #43
His... 2naSalit Mar 23 #8
Yep, bank accounts. anciano Mar 23 #11
TSF can pick up some folding money by doing inspirational speaking... Hugin Mar 24 #20
LOL! 2naSalit Mar 24 #22
His plane, park it in a hanger, take it out of campaign use! nt intheozone Mar 23 #9
I heard he owns parts of the properties. louis-t Mar 23 #12
How do they seize a property that he only has a partial ownership in? MichMan Mar 23 #14
Easy NanaCat Mar 24 #17
It was just a question MichMan Mar 24 #24
His gold toilet in Trump Tower. Basic LA Mar 23 #15
LOL 🤣 Emile Mar 23 #16
Property owned by the business... 2naSalit Mar 24 #23
Good! Basic LA Mar 24 #34
Yessss! 2naSalit Mar 24 #35
Per NYT they can seize his property anywhere, just more paperwork if out of NY state. Quick hit $$$ are in NY state. dutch777 Mar 25 #52
GTK. Thanks. Basic LA Mar 25 #63
Can they sell his property Tickle Mar 24 #18
I'm guessing yes. MichMan Mar 24 #25
His name Dirty Socialist Mar 24 #19
Seems improbable that NYS would pay him the remaining $3 billion MichMan Mar 24 #31
I believe the first assets will be the Seven Springs golf course and the adjoining estate in Westchester... EarthFirst Mar 24 #21
I was about to say..... DFW Mar 24 #26
According to Post #17, anything he has any interest in can be seized and taken possession of MichMan Mar 24 #28
If that amount turns out to be zero, then what? DFW Mar 24 #33
Say it is worth $1 and seize it anyway. MichMan Mar 24 #48
Whatever is easiest to sell. Get the damn money. NoMoreRepugs Mar 24 #27
"What property of Trump's should the NY A.J. seize first?" Seize Melania. sop Mar 24 #29
Sorry, she's worthless PJMcK Mar 24 #45
I think she'll have a hard time finding equity in anything he "owns." Vinca Mar 24 #30
Start with the cash. BigMin28 Mar 24 #32
... 2naSalit Mar 24 #36
something.....anything......just do it....NOW dembotoz Mar 24 #37
His spray tan booth Johonny Mar 24 #38
LOL 😂 Emile Mar 24 #39
His bank and investment accounts. OLDMDDEM Mar 24 #41
They could take his janky private jet and sell it for scrap tinrobot Mar 24 #42
Herve Villachez agrees -- de plane! Blue Owl Mar 24 #44
Tattoo would know, lol 😂 Emile Mar 24 #46
Busting up ... I like your idea... take the plane. KentuckyWoman Mar 24 #47
He will be in NY today for the hush money trial. Emile Mar 25 #49
That would be perfect. BlueKota Mar 25 #57
He is so leveraged its not funny dclarston13 Mar 25 #50
Yeah, doubt he owns much free and clear. A $100 mil property may be 10% Trump's and 90% banks'. dutch777 Mar 25 #55
This is the part I'm not understanding the logistics MichMan Mar 25 #61
Certainly some complexity. Like a golf course...you going to put up barricades around two holes and a few of the.... dutch777 Mar 25 #62
Go for the gold! His HAIR! bucolic_frolic Mar 25 #51
Leave him financially True Dough Mar 25 #53
The person who retrives it should wear gloves and a gas BlueKota Mar 25 #58
Easy choice DaBronx Mar 25 #54
HIS BIG FLIPPIN' MOUTH! Conjuay Mar 25 #56
1. Golf Course Properties Captain Zero Mar 25 #59
I appreciate your thoughtful list!! DaBronx Mar 25 #60

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
3. NOT-HOW-THIS-WORKS
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:23 PM
Mar 23

The goal is to collect the owed penalties as quickly as possible, NOT to "make him hurt". That means starting by attaching bank accounts with liquid assets, then going after securities and then properties which aren't largely encumbered by mortgages and are most salable.

RainCaster

(10,883 posts)
5. Mardo Lardo, then every golf course
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:26 PM
Mar 23

By the time they pay off all the notes, NY State may get only $5 on each property. The news will come out- Cheetolini is the King of Debt. His true net worth may be well less than any other billionaire.

Squaredeal

(398 posts)
40. Doesn't matter. Take his 757 emblazoned Trump that he takes to his rallies.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:01 AM
Mar 24

Unless his plane is already encumbered, that is. He recently had it repaired so it can fly again and should easily sell quickly.
Then go to his residences and remove his furniture to be auctioned off. That should raise a good amount, as bidders are looking to purchase Trump memorabilia. “Hey, this was one of Trump’s chairs from his Mar-A-Lago Oval Office”, you can tell visitors to you home or office.

Brother Buzz

(36,442 posts)
13. I understand that warehouse has an enormous walk-in freezer chuck full of
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:21 PM
Mar 23

Freezer burned steaks and it is stacked to the rafters of bulk buys of his best selling book, "The Art of the Deal".

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
8. His...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:34 PM
Mar 23

Bank accounts. She can get those fastest, then she will start taking real estate.

Taking his cash on hand will leave him with no way to make payroll or anything, like fuel for the plane and upkeep for all his properties.

Hugin

(33,159 posts)
20. TSF can pick up some folding money by doing inspirational speaking...
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 08:52 AM
Mar 24
Living in a plane down by the river.



louis-t

(23,295 posts)
12. I heard he owns parts of the properties.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:12 PM
Mar 23

NY Real Estate is weird. You can own parts of a building or services. He owns a restaurant, the room service kitchen, the parking garage and one unit at the tower.

NanaCat

(1,161 posts)
17. Easy
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 08:32 AM
Mar 24

The same way one would seize a business or condo inside a larger building: Seize that particular part of the building, sell it, get the money.

What, did you really think condos were exempt from asset seizure just because their owners possessed only that one small part of a building, but not the rest of it? So if a bank or a court order can force seizure of a condo, either can force seizure of a partial ownership in a building.

I'm an idiot about business and even I know that if someone has a legal right to seize assets, then it doesn't matter what percent of something an asset is. Only that it's an asset and thus subject to seizure.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
24. It was just a question
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:10 AM
Mar 24

If I buy a house with a couple other partners, and I get a judgement against me, that must mean that the courts could take possession of my 1/3 of the property.

In my example, that would be one bedroom and small bathroom and 1/3 of the living room, kitchen and garage, that would be seized and padlocked, while the remaining 2/3 would remain the property of the others. I assume that that 1/3 share could then later be sold to whomever comes up with the money.

Now if a bank is the lienholder, they would be the one that would claim the proceeds, correct?

Wasn't sure how it would be physically seized and divided up with a value determined. Thanks for the clarification.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
23. Property owned by the business...
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:08 AM
Mar 24

Which it appears that even their homes are, are subject to the judgement regardless of physical location, I think. I could be wrong but that is what I think it is.

dutch777

(3,023 posts)
52. Per NYT they can seize his property anywhere, just more paperwork if out of NY state. Quick hit $$$ are in NY state.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:40 AM
Mar 25

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
25. I'm guessing yes.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:30 AM
Mar 24

They would just have to buy it back from whomever it was sold to if he prevailed.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
19. His name
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 08:50 AM
Mar 24

Didn’t he say his name was worth $3.5 billion? Take that. If we took his name away, everyone would have to call him The Former Guy.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
21. I believe the first assets will be the Seven Springs golf course and the adjoining estate in Westchester...
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:03 AM
Mar 24

The judgements were filed last week I do believe.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
26. I was about to say.....
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:34 AM
Mar 24

Any property to which he truly has title, clear and free.

He is so in hock everywhere, I have to wonder which of "his" properties are ones in which he owns a controlling share?

The old question: if you have borrowed $5 billion, and have $3 billion that you can come up with, are you then really a billionaire, or are you hopelessly broke? Answer--you are still rich until people to whom you owe more than $3 billion want their money back. After that, you're not worth a dime. It's a big game of musical chairs, and no one wants to be the one left empty-handed, so no one dares to be the first to say they have seen that the emperor really has no clothes. No bank exec wants to be the one to admit he approved a nine figure loan to a guy who was already two billion in the hole, and whose collateral turns out to be owned by someone else entirely, but he forgot to check.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
28. According to Post #17, anything he has any interest in can be seized and taken possession of
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:39 AM
Mar 24

Regardless of the amount he controls or owns

DFW

(54,403 posts)
33. If that amount turns out to be zero, then what?
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:44 AM
Mar 24

I think a lot of his supposed net worth is smoke and mirrors at this point, and if the true owners turn out to be Putin or the Saudi Royal Family, the courts can try to seize all they want, but if Trump no longer has any claim at all to ownership, there will be nothing to seize.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
48. Say it is worth $1 and seize it anyway.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 05:44 PM
Mar 24

That way after you seize everything, he will still owe 99% of the balance.

sop

(10,192 posts)
29. "What property of Trump's should the NY A.J. seize first?" Seize Melania.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:40 AM
Mar 24

The woman needs a break. Someone should organize the "Free Melania" campaign.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
45. Sorry, she's worthless
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 01:12 PM
Mar 24

We New Yorkers want Trump’s money to pay us back for all the money he’s cheated us out of.
Melania is past her sell-by date.

BigMin28

(1,177 posts)
32. Start with the cash.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 09:43 AM
Mar 24

Empty his bank accounts. Take his whatever money he does have. That alone will drive him insane. Well, even more so.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
42. They could take his janky private jet and sell it for scrap
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 11:16 AM
Mar 24

Scrap it because Boeing jets aren't doing well on the used market these days.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
47. Busting up ... I like your idea... take the plane.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:00 PM
Mar 24

Although I'm unsure she can take anything that isn't in NY.

BlueKota

(1,741 posts)
57. That would be perfect.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:00 AM
Mar 25

When the trial goes into recess for the day. he goes to get back on the plane, only it's gone. 🤣

dclarston13

(412 posts)
50. He is so leveraged its not funny
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:34 AM
Mar 25

I would not be surprised if most of his properties are underwater. The real defeat will come from him being exposed as broke. How much will that will become public, though?

dutch777

(3,023 posts)
55. Yeah, doubt he owns much free and clear. A $100 mil property may be 10% Trump's and 90% banks'.
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:43 AM
Mar 25

So, may compel the AG to encumber a much larger number of properties to get to the $464 million to cover Trump's judgement. Works for me!

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
61. This is the part I'm not understanding the logistics
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:30 AM
Mar 25

I know zero about real estate forfeitures. Assuming what you said as a hypothetical is true that Trump owns 10% and someone else owns 90%.

How does NYS get their money?

Force the property to be sold and pay the lien holder the $90 million portion they own? What happens if it is underwater? Who eats the loss?

Or, if it isn't a bank holding the 90%, but other investors? Can they be forced to sell even though they own 90%?

On another post I was told by another poster that NYS would just physically seize the 10% by taking one tenth of the building and changing the locks etc. How would they determine which 10% ? What if they can't come to an agreement with the 90% stakeholder? Seems very complicated



dutch777

(3,023 posts)
62. Certainly some complexity. Like a golf course...you going to put up barricades around two holes and a few of the....
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 10:23 AM
Mar 25

...bar stools at the 19th Hole clubhouse? I think if it is say Trump's condo in Trump Tower, sure, change the locks. But in the golf course example shutting down some holes is not practical on a number of levels. You would likely just advertise sale of a 10% stake in a fully operational gold course and it's all just basically paperwork, not a physical seizure.

DaBronx

(297 posts)
54. Easy choice
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 08:42 AM
Mar 25

Da plane! Da plane!

Plus I would like to see the NY AJ personally walk up the stairs to inform him. “Get
Your fat ass off my plane.” I’ll have to think of a good song for background music.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
59. 1. Golf Course Properties
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 09:09 AM
Mar 25

2. Limos and Jets
3. Microphones and PA systems.
4. All IT equipment and infrastructure owned directly by him.
5. Hotels

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