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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat property of Trump's should the NY A.J. seize first?
I think she should seize his airplane first. Make the loser fly commercial, that'll kill him.
What's your first choice? Most of his properties he doesn't actually own.
Mar-A-Loco
lame54
(35,293 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)The goal is to collect the owed penalties as quickly as possible, NOT to "make him hurt". That means starting by attaching bank accounts with liquid assets, then going after securities and then properties which aren't largely encumbered by mortgages and are most salable.
Think. Again.
(8,172 posts)...and toss back any extra later.
RainCaster
(10,883 posts)By the time they pay off all the notes, NY State may get only $5 on each property. The news will come out- Cheetolini is the King of Debt. His true net worth may be well less than any other billionaire.
GP6971
(31,165 posts)make their private jets available.
Squaredeal
(398 posts)Unless his plane is already encumbered, that is. He recently had it repaired so it can fly again and should easily sell quickly.
Then go to his residences and remove his furniture to be auctioned off. That should raise a good amount, as bidders are looking to purchase Trump memorabilia. Hey, this was one of Trumps chairs from his Mar-A-Lago Oval Office, you can tell visitors to you home or office.
Ping Tung
(577 posts)And, of course, his cosmetics and hair growth ointments.
Brother Buzz
(36,442 posts)Freezer burned steaks and it is stacked to the rafters of bulk buys of his best selling book, "The Art of the Deal".
Wicked Blue
(5,834 posts)Bank accounts. She can get those fastest, then she will start taking real estate.
Taking his cash on hand will leave him with no way to make payroll or anything, like fuel for the plane and upkeep for all his properties.
anciano
(995 posts)Cash is king 💰
Hugin
(33,159 posts)intheozone
(1,103 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)NY Real Estate is weird. You can own parts of a building or services. He owns a restaurant, the room service kitchen, the parking garage and one unit at the tower.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)The same way one would seize a business or condo inside a larger building: Seize that particular part of the building, sell it, get the money.
What, did you really think condos were exempt from asset seizure just because their owners possessed only that one small part of a building, but not the rest of it? So if a bank or a court order can force seizure of a condo, either can force seizure of a partial ownership in a building.
I'm an idiot about business and even I know that if someone has a legal right to seize assets, then it doesn't matter what percent of something an asset is. Only that it's an asset and thus subject to seizure.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)If I buy a house with a couple other partners, and I get a judgement against me, that must mean that the courts could take possession of my 1/3 of the property.
In my example, that would be one bedroom and small bathroom and 1/3 of the living room, kitchen and garage, that would be seized and padlocked, while the remaining 2/3 would remain the property of the others. I assume that that 1/3 share could then later be sold to whomever comes up with the money.
Now if a bank is the lienholder, they would be the one that would claim the proceeds, correct?
Wasn't sure how it would be physically seized and divided up with a value determined. Thanks for the clarification.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)I wonder if they can only seize property in the state of NY.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Which it appears that even their homes are, are subject to the judgement regardless of physical location, I think. I could be wrong but that is what I think it is.
A larger target.
dutch777
(3,023 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Hope they sock it to him.
Tickle
(2,525 posts)while he's on an appeal?
MichMan
(11,932 posts)They would just have to buy it back from whomever it was sold to if he prevailed.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Didnt he say his name was worth $3.5 billion? Take that. If we took his name away, everyone would have to call him The Former Guy.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)The judgements were filed last week I do believe.
DFW
(54,403 posts)Any property to which he truly has title, clear and free.
He is so in hock everywhere, I have to wonder which of "his" properties are ones in which he owns a controlling share?
The old question: if you have borrowed $5 billion, and have $3 billion that you can come up with, are you then really a billionaire, or are you hopelessly broke? Answer--you are still rich until people to whom you owe more than $3 billion want their money back. After that, you're not worth a dime. It's a big game of musical chairs, and no one wants to be the one left empty-handed, so no one dares to be the first to say they have seen that the emperor really has no clothes. No bank exec wants to be the one to admit he approved a nine figure loan to a guy who was already two billion in the hole, and whose collateral turns out to be owned by someone else entirely, but he forgot to check.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)Regardless of the amount he controls or owns
DFW
(54,403 posts)I think a lot of his supposed net worth is smoke and mirrors at this point, and if the true owners turn out to be Putin or the Saudi Royal Family, the courts can try to seize all they want, but if Trump no longer has any claim at all to ownership, there will be nothing to seize.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)That way after you seize everything, he will still owe 99% of the balance.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)sop
(10,192 posts)The woman needs a break. Someone should organize the "Free Melania" campaign.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)We New Yorkers want Trumps money to pay us back for all the money hes cheated us out of.
Melania is past her sell-by date.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)BigMin28
(1,177 posts)Empty his bank accounts. Take his whatever money he does have. That alone will drive him insane. Well, even more so.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)OLDMDDEM
(1,575 posts)tinrobot
(10,903 posts)Scrap it because Boeing jets aren't doing well on the used market these days.
Blue Owl
(50,402 posts)Emile
(22,788 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Although I'm unsure she can take anything that isn't in NY.
Emile
(22,788 posts)BlueKota
(1,741 posts)When the trial goes into recess for the day. he goes to get back on the plane, only it's gone. 🤣
dclarston13
(412 posts)I would not be surprised if most of his properties are underwater. The real defeat will come from him being exposed as broke. How much will that will become public, though?
dutch777
(3,023 posts)So, may compel the AG to encumber a much larger number of properties to get to the $464 million to cover Trump's judgement. Works for me!
MichMan
(11,932 posts)I know zero about real estate forfeitures. Assuming what you said as a hypothetical is true that Trump owns 10% and someone else owns 90%.
How does NYS get their money?
Force the property to be sold and pay the lien holder the $90 million portion they own? What happens if it is underwater? Who eats the loss?
Or, if it isn't a bank holding the 90%, but other investors? Can they be forced to sell even though they own 90%?
On another post I was told by another poster that NYS would just physically seize the 10% by taking one tenth of the building and changing the locks etc. How would they determine which 10% ? What if they can't come to an agreement with the 90% stakeholder? Seems very complicated
dutch777
(3,023 posts)...bar stools at the 19th Hole clubhouse? I think if it is say Trump's condo in Trump Tower, sure, change the locks. But in the golf course example shutting down some holes is not practical on a number of levels. You would likely just advertise sale of a 10% stake in a fully operational gold course and it's all just basically paperwork, not a physical seizure.
bucolic_frolic
(43,176 posts)True Dough
(17,305 posts)STRANDed!
BlueKota
(1,741 posts)mask.
DaBronx
(297 posts)Da plane! Da plane!
Plus I would like to see the NY AJ personally walk up the stairs to inform him. Get
Your fat ass off my plane. Ill have to think of a good song for background music.
Conjuay
(1,392 posts)Then his air accordion.
Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)2. Limos and Jets
3. Microphones and PA systems.
4. All IT equipment and infrastructure owned directly by him.
5. Hotels
DaBronx
(297 posts)Squelch communication!