Would you tell a little fib to help Biden win.

[Funtatlaguy]

Are these desperate times?
Is the coming election a desperate effort to save our democracy?
If you said yes, what would you do to help Biden hold the White House and the Democrats win the House and keep the Senate?

Sure, there is donating and volunteering to campaigns.
But, can you think of anything else?
Here’s my idea:
For those of us that have Trumper/Republicans spouses or partners.
My plan is to make a deal with my significant other that we will go to the polls together on Election Day and vote at the same time.
But, and here is the fibbing part, I will actually go vote early by myself before Election Day.
Then, on Election Day, I will make sure that my partner and I are so busy after work with a great dinner or party opportunity that we don’t make it to the polls in time for us to vote.
And I will say to my partner, “well, it’s ok, since our different votes would have just cancelled each other out anyway”.

Now many of you will say I’m a terrible person for lying to my partner.
And I’m ok with that.
As I stated earlier…desperate times.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. And you're absolutely certain your partner won't vote early?

Or that they'll go straight to the polls after work?

If Republicans are wrong to suppress the vote, why do you think it's okay for you to do so?

[Funtatlaguy]

2. Absolutely sure, no. But, highly doubt it. They like Election Day voting.

As for your second question, I said I was ok with doing this.
You don’t have to.

[niyad]

3. Well, since I would not have a cultist or anyone who is "r" as a partner,

that would not be necessary.

[ecstatic]

4. lol! They'll probably do the same though...

Honestly, I don't know how you do it. I completely lose it with anyone even remotely considering trump.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. It came as a surprise to me. Relationship was already rocky.

Only lasting this long because of familial and financial ties.
That will change soon. Certainly if Trump wins, it will.

[TheProle]

5. My opinion: Lies and voter supression tactics are plentiful enough

without bringing that shit into a marriage.

[ecstatic]

11. Agreed BUT OP's partner is a fully grown adult

responsible for their own decisions. I would never wait until the last minute to vote, but if I did, nothing would stop me. It's literally down the street. lol.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. lol wtf is this

[SWBTATTReg]

7. I don't condone fibbing, even to one's partner. The partner and you should be honest enough, respect each other

to allow the other the full support of their partner, no matter what they do (of course, as long as they're not killing, robbing, etc. anything illegally or morally wrong).

[Think. Again.]

29. The partner in this scenario is a rightwinger/trumpie...

...everything you suggested would only be one-way, the partner would never be so good, at all, ever.

[SWBTATTReg]

31. Such relationships are doomed, I would think, if this is the way they handle things. Maybe that's why there are so many

broken relationships.

[Think. Again.]

33. Yes, and I'm sure it's a good thing for sane people to break relationships with rightwingers.

[0rganism]

9. If that's what we need to do for a "win", we've already lost

Look, you're talking about deceiving and disenfranchising your spouse. That kind of thing will hurt you for years to come, win or lose.

[Think. Again.]

30. Just levelling the field, playing by the rules they set.

[Funtatlaguy]

10. For those poo-pooing this out of hand, think about this.

What lengths do Republicans and especially Trumpers go to win elections.
But, we are ABOVE THEM, BETTER THAN THEM, WE PLAY FAIR, etc. etc.

Yep. I used to feel that way.
That was pre Trump.
These are desperate times.
My little lie to my admittedly asshole partner does not bother me at all.
I’ve caught my partner in many more important lies than this.
Like I said, I knew MOST people here would hate this. Good for you.
But I want to do whatever I can to save my democracy.

[Sympthsical]

14. It has been "desperate times" my entire adult life

I keep hearing this. "We're always told to be better, to take the high road, but now is the time . . ." And then insert whatever shitty behavior is being justified. I remember when Mitt Romney - Mitt fucking Romney - was the end of all times and we had to go scorched earth right away or else.

Seriously, when is this high road arriving? Because I've been hearing this justification for about twenty-five years now. When was this golden age where people didn't fight dirty and get nasty about politics?

People make their choices. Do whatever you wish. But this "Now I'm super duper justified! Last time I was just duper justified!" doesn't wash.

People make their shitty choices because they want to make them.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

15. "But I want to do whatever I can to save my democracy."

I feel like you've got problems closer to home to focus on, but mileage clearly varies.

[Funtatlaguy]

17. True, but I'm able to multitask. lol.

[brooklynite]

41. What has the spouse done to stop the OP from voting?

[Sympthsical]

12. Sounds like a healthy relationship

I typically don't actively plot against my partner.

Unless the kitchen is involved. The man just shouldn't be cooking.

Are people ok? I feel like they're not ok. "How to let online toxicity leak into my home life!"

Uh, ok?

[limbicnuminousity]

19. Hey now!

No need to go picking on men who cook. We suffer enough having to eat the meals, there's no need for microaggressions!

[Sympthsical]

23. LOL

Well, I'm a man who cooks, but my mom taught me. My partner does many things well, just not that. In one infamous incident, he had this cream of mushroom soup going on the stove. Then he asks, "Do we have lemon juice?" We do. But why is it going in a cream of mushroom soup? He puts lemon in everything in unnecessary quantities - I hate lemon.

I grabbed the container out of the fridge and put it in the garage. "Sorry, we must be out."

And then I sat there sweating. Because we have a lemon tree, and I was quietly praying it slipped his mind. It had.

Look at this horror show in my fridge! They're jars of lemon juice!

[Bettie]

13. How does anyone function in a

relationship with someone who would vote for Trump?

Seriously, that seems like an enormous mismatch in basic values.

[Funtatlaguy]

18. This persons values drastically changed after finding Fox News

And Rush Limbaugh.
But, they had hidden their racism until Trump came along.
With money and children and families involved, leaving takes planning.
That plan is well underway, rest assured.

[Bettie]

21. I understand that

Glad that you have a plan, if you can't turn them back toward reality.

I wasn't criticizing, just wondering how it happens, y'know?

But I get it. I don't really speak to my brothers because they both adore Trump and I just can't with them.

[Bettie]

22. Also, I recall while door to door canvassing

prior to the 2020 election. We came across registered Democrats (three women) all of whom said a version of 'yes, I'm planning to vote, but you have to leave my husband can't know'....they seemed truly fearful. Different days, different neighborhoods.

After the third one, DH said he can't bear to do canvassing anymore, because he's afraid that someone will get hurt and it will be our fault for showing up at the door.

[BlueTsunami2018]

16. Do what needs to be done.

If you can make that work, do it.

This is life and death.

[sarisataka]

20. If I feel I have to act like a republican in order to defeat one

Then I know I have lost myself.

[sagetea]

24. Why would I be married to a trumper????

If I was, I wouldn't lie to them, but I would divorce them. How do you converse with a trumper spouse everyday? Yikes!! I really don't think I could love them and their belief system. You are a braver person than I am!

sage

[beaglelover]

25. Voting twice in the same election is NOT legal. NO, I would never do that.

[Think. Again.]

28. I don't think you understood the scenario.

[beaglelover]

36. You are correct, I misread the post. Sorry.

[Think. Again.]

37. .

[Think. Again.]

26. I have absolutely no problem...

....treating rightwingers with the same standards they set.

[appmanga]

27. I'm not equipped to judge...

...but speaking for myself, if someone supported someone who was a sincere threat to my way of life they couldn't be a partner of mine.

Good luck.

[Cha]

32. We Don't have to tell Fucking LIES.

[Torchlight]

34. In my case, if I did that (or she did to me), it would just be a symptom of larger problems.

It would be an ironic twist on the bard, "If little faults, proceeding on distemper, shall not be winked at, how shall we stretch our eye when capital crimes, chewed, swallowed and digested appear before us? "

[jimfields33]

38. Hmmmm. Interesting

[ForgedCrank]

35. No, I don't lie.

Also, that would be a slimy thing to do to ones significant other by sabotaging their right to vote.
Republicans do that, I don't.

[Barry Markson]

39. Well, it's not an entirely new idea

[brooklynite]

40. If I found out about your "little fib", I wouldn't trust you again...