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Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:52 PM Mar 26

Trump Post Targets Judge's Daughter

“Intimidating the judge”: Expert says Trump Truth Social post put a “target” on judge’s daughter

Trump could be slapped with "gag order" after latest outburst, says ex-US Attorney Joyce Vance

by Igor Derysh
Salon.com, March 26, 2024

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday attacked the judge overseeing his Manhattan criminal hush-money case and his daughter.

“Judge Juan Merchan, a very distinguished looking man, is nevertheless a true and certified Trump Hater who suffers from a very serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “In other words, he hates me! His daughter is a senior executive at a Super Liberal Democrat firm that works for Adam ‘Shifty’ Schiff, the Democrat National Committee, (Dem)Senate Majority PAC, and even Crooked Joe Biden.”

Trump’s post came a day after Merchan took his lawyers to task for claiming prosecutorial misconduct in the case and set his trial to begin on April 15.

“Trump puts a target not only Judge Merchan in the criminal case in Manhattan but on his daughter,” tweeted former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance. “This is a rank effort at intimidating the judge by threatening his family. It merits a gag order but also serious pushback from GOP leadership—which we know won't come.”

CONTINUES...

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/26/intimidating-the-judge-expert-says-truth-social-post-put-a-target-on-judges-daughter/?in_brief=true

The traitor Donald J Trump is a no-good, low-down, bastard.
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Trump Post Targets Judge's Daughter (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Mar 26 OP
That SCUMMY BOTTOM FEEDER! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 26 #1
Rupert Murdoch helped Junior launch the attacks in 2023 Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #25
Rupert Murdoch is a traitor to this country. Initech Mar 26 #75
My supposition is that the judge expected this PCIntern Mar 26 #2
You are more of an optimist murielm99 Mar 26 #29
Bet he skates on this threat. MOMFUDSKI Mar 26 #55
Gag order now in place... druidity33 Mar 26 #72
Absolutely, the Grift Family Trump started in right off the bat. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #30
He's out on bail... LOCK HIM UP. FalloutShelter Mar 26 #3
Hear, hear! Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 26 #22
If I was that judge, Delmette2.0 Mar 26 #46
Not even this supposed tough Judge MOMFUDSKI Mar 26 #77
Yeah, I don't get that, either. EndlessWire Mar 26 #40
You have to ask? birdographer Mar 26 #43
Time for...nt sprinkleeninow Mar 26 #42
My sentiments, exactly. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #66
Why, since criminal-defendant-hitler2 wannabe is above the law. Justice matters. Mar 26 #4
It almost goes with the territory. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #84
It hardly needs pointing out that TFG is a terrible scumbag, RockRaven Mar 26 #5
Scumbag Etymology Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #86
And justice for all. republianmushroom Mar 26 #6
Others also are worthy. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #89
Slap him North Shore Chicago Mar 26 #7
That used to be a thing. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #93
Fixed it a bit. Kid Berwyn Mar 27 #102
Trump and his followers delight in rubbing our noses in it, daring us to do something about it. jalan48 Mar 26 #8
Menacing in the First Degree Kid Berwyn Mar 27 #99
Scumbag Asshole! MineralMan Mar 26 #9
Really is. Kid Berwyn Mar 27 #100
My god, he talks like a bad cartoon character PatSeg Mar 26 #10
How Do We Get Certified? ProfessorGAC Mar 26 #11
Maybe we could set up an organization MadameButterfly Mar 26 #13
And we could get continuing education credits for FSogol Mar 26 #35
ha ha MadameButterfly Mar 26 #37
And issue membership cards! ShazzieB Mar 26 #97
There's nothing sweeter than being an unlicensed Trump hater. Hugin Mar 26 #14
Yeah! ProfessorGAC Mar 26 #16
I would like a card PatSeg Mar 26 #20
Good Catch ProfessorGAC Mar 26 #21
Exactly PatSeg Mar 26 #23
That's the commercial. 😉 sprinkleeninow Mar 26 #47
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Mar 26 #63
I've got one - My ACLU membership card. k55f5r Mar 26 #65
Same here PatSeg Mar 26 #70
One of my favorite scenes from... 3catwoman3 Mar 26 #95
I love that movie PatSeg Mar 26 #96
There could be a secret handshake MorbidButterflyTat Mar 26 #15
Followed by mutual spitting... Hugin Mar 26 #27
This looks masonic. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #36
Is this really a Trumper thing? MadameButterfly Mar 26 #45
That is one odd way to shake anyone's hand Sanity Claws Mar 26 #56
Coke Jr dweller Mar 26 #61
This might be handy if Republicans ever take power MadameButterfly Mar 26 #38
Me too! PatSeg Mar 26 #17
There have been videos of him speaking next to foreign leaders IronLionZion Mar 26 #51
Obviously DENVERPOPS Mar 26 #52
If I were a judge and someone put my daughter in danger MadameButterfly Mar 26 #12
Every word, true. And with their sentiment, I am in total agreement. Kid Berwyn Mar 27 #103
Makes sense this would take root with men already in an internment camp MadameButterfly Mar 27 #105
What an ugly, nasty monster of a human being. Fla Dem Mar 26 #18
I'm afraid he won't get sanctioned or have a gag order placed on him until one of his followers takes him literally TheRickles Mar 26 #19
Looks like you were wrong! TheRickles Mar 26 #73
He needs to be slapped with more than a gag order for this one Warpy Mar 26 #24
He is testing the judge johnnyfins Mar 26 #26
Probably result in another non-binding suggestion to he please stop doing that Orrex Mar 26 #28
Gag order imposed... nt. druidity33 Mar 26 #74
Very limited in scope and substance Orrex Mar 26 #81
A gag order is not a non-binding suggestion. nt. druidity33 Mar 26 #83
Forgive a little self-evident hyperbole, because the point is served Orrex Mar 26 #94
Sounds like he's attracted to the judge for a moment there dweller Mar 26 #31
Trump really is above the law. sop Mar 26 #32
Sub human. onecaliberal Mar 26 #33
He has three weeks EndlessWire Mar 26 #34
Maybe Trump is egging the judge on to do something he can appeal to delay the trial MadameButterfly Mar 26 #44
Duct tape his mouth shut Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 26 #39
Drag is ass into court. SayItLoud Mar 26 #41
Jail him Johnny2X2X Mar 26 #48
No he wouldn't ScratchCat Mar 26 #53
he does whatever he wants to do prodigitalson Mar 26 #49
Dumpy is like a cartoon caricature of a mob boss IronLionZion Mar 26 #50
TIME TO SLOP THE MAGA HOGS TomDaisy Mar 26 #54
I guess CNN doesn't find this newsworthy or senseandsensibility Mar 26 #57
Does Trump have to get someone killed before he is gagged? Irish_Dem Mar 26 #58
All this noise is a set up for seeking a delay Deuxcents Mar 26 #59
That shithead! H2O Man Mar 26 #60
Is there a judge in this country with the cojones to imprison the Orange Menace? LoisB Mar 26 #62
A gag order... returnee Mar 26 #64
Easy solution. Arrest Trump. NO ONE who is the defendant in a criminal case EVER is allowed to intimidate PatrickforB Mar 26 #67
And yet, he continues to get away with this bullshit. Ferrets are Cool Mar 26 #68
Well, that'll teach him. tavernier Mar 26 #69
Whatever. Nothing will happen. He's free to do anything he wants ProfessorPlum Mar 26 #71
I guess we are powerless to arrest a domestic terrorist if he was TFG. Immune. We are a hollow nation of law. Evolve Dammit Mar 26 #76
Lock the pos up! BHDem53 Mar 26 #78
Just ask Paul Pelosi IcyPeas Mar 26 #79
I hope they're keeping a cell warm at Rikers for Mr. Diarrhea Mouth dlk Mar 26 #80
It's time to lock him the fuck up malaise Mar 26 #82
Every single one of us would have our bail, or personal recognizance maxrandb Mar 26 #85
No visitors. Kid Berwyn Mar 26 #88
The traitor could use a good dose of terminal throat cancer. dalton99a Mar 26 #87
Lock up trump. If i could, i would put him in jail for 35 years !!!! Trueblue1968 Mar 26 #90
...and his daughter is only six steps away from Kevin Bacon!! JohnnyRingo Mar 26 #91
BREAKING: Judge Merchan has instituted a gag order on Donald Trump for his upcoming criminal hush money trial. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 26 #92
Trump derangement syndrome SouthernDem4ever Mar 27 #98
he is already under several gag orders that he has now violated with malice. bullimiami Mar 27 #101
If you or I did this, we'd be behind bars in a nanosecond! bif Mar 27 #104

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
25. Rupert Murdoch helped Junior launch the attacks in 2023
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:41 PM
Mar 26
Trump Jr. shares article with photo of judge’s daughter — who allegedly worked on Biden campaign

By Olivia Land
New York Post, April 5, 2023

https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/donald-trump-jr-shares-photo-of-judges-daughter-online/



When the courts didn't do what the Führer wanted in 1933, the NAZIs replaced the judges and lawyers.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/law-and-justice-in-the-third-reich

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
2. My supposition is that the judge expected this
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:55 PM
Mar 26

and will deal with it accordingly. I think this judge is not to be messed with.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,556 posts)
55. Bet he skates on this threat.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:32 PM
Mar 26

Is there a judge in the land with the balls to rein this clown in? I will wait. . .

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
30. Absolutely, the Grift Family Trump started in right off the bat.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:46 PM
Mar 26
Trump targets NY judge’s wife and daughter, hours after warning not to threaten safety

By Geoff Herbert
Syacuse.com, April 5, 2023

Former President Donald Trump targeted the family of a New York judge overseeing his indictment, hours after that same judge warned him not to threaten anyone’s safety.

“This is where we are right now. I have a Trump-hating judge, with a Trump-hating wife and family, whose daughter worked for Kamala Harris and now receives money from the Biden-Harris campaign,” Trump said Tuesday night in a speech at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.

SNIP...

Trump criticized Merchan as “highly partisan” and called his family “well known Trump haters” on his social media platform Truth Social earlier Tuesday. Trump also complained about how Merchan presided over the criminal trial of the Trump Organization where the Trump company’s former CFO Allen Weisselberg pleaded guilty to financial crimes.

“HE WAS AN UNFAIR DISASTER ON A PREVIOUS TRUMP RELATED CASE, WOULDN’T RECUSE, GAVE HORRIBLE JURY INSTRUCTIONS, & IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH DURING THE WITCH HUNT TRIAL. HIS DAUGHTER WORKED FOR ‘KAMALA’ & NOW THE BIDEN-HARRIS CAMPAIGN. KANGAROO COURT!!!” Trump wrote.

Insider reports Trump did not provide evidence for his claims made about Merchan and his family, but Newsweek noted that the former president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., posted right-wing articles on social media identifying the judge’s daughter as Loren Merchan, president and partner of Authentic Campaigns. The company’s website says it runs digital campaigns for Democratic candidates, including Vice President Kamala Harris and the Biden-Harris campaign.

Trump’s family also posted photos of Loren and suggested it’s evidence that Judge Merchan is biased against the former president.

CONTINUED...

https://www.syracuse.com/state/2023/04/trump-targets-ny-judges-wife-and-daughter-hours-after-warning-not-to-threaten-safety.html

Only a fascist coward would make war on innocent people. I think that includes women and children.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,967 posts)
22. Hear, hear!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:38 PM
Mar 26

Trump is a fucking thug and a domestic terrorist. He needs to be dealt with accordingly.

He needs to be arrested, handcuffed and placed in a prison cell, the way any common criminal would be treated.

It is only a matter of time before one of his nutty, loser magats act on his threats and innocent people are injured or killed.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
46. If I was that judge,
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:16 PM
Mar 26

I whould order an immediate arrest and have him brought to the court.
Ask him a few questions and sentence him to one week in jail. One full week, he is not to be released until this same hour next Tuesday, April 2, 2024.
Cuff him and take him to Rikers.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,556 posts)
77. Not even this supposed tough Judge
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:42 PM
Mar 26

had the balls to do that. The system keeps reinforcing clown’s notion that he can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
40. Yeah, I don't get that, either.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:10 PM
Mar 26

I would think that even though the bail is for a different case, what kind of behavior is allowed such that he can remain out on bail threatening the Judiciaries in other jurisdictions? Why isn't his bail revoked for menacing?

birdographer

(1,331 posts)
43. You have to ask?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:14 PM
Mar 26

Because he is trump and nothing bad ever happens to him. Slap on the wrist, pat on the head, and he's on to his next felony.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
66. My sentiments, exactly.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 03:17 PM
Mar 26

May the traitor's "Cult" see him in all his orange glory.



It's better than making him into a martyr.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
84. It almost goes with the territory.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 26
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

by Edwin Black

EXCERPT...

The superior species the eugenics movement sought was populated not merely by tall, strong, talented people. Eugenicists craved blond, blue-eyed Nordic types. This group alone, they believed, was fit to inherit the earth. In the process, the movement intended to subtract emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark-haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.

How? By identifying so-called "defective" family trees and subjecting them to lifelong segregation and sterilization programs to kill their bloodlines. The grand plan was to literally wipe away the reproductive capability of those deemed weak and inferior--the so-called "unfit." The eugenicists hoped to neutralize the viability of 10 percent of the population at a sweep, until none were left except themselves.

Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 "Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder's Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population." Point eight was euthanasia.

The most commonly suggested method of eugenicide in America was a "lethal chamber" or public locally operated gas chambers. In 1918, Popenoe, the Army venereal disease specialist during World War I, co-wrote the widely used textbook, Applied Eugenics, which argued, "From an historical point of view, the first method which presents itself is execution… Its value in keeping up the standard of the race should not be underestimated." Applied Eugenics also devoted a chapter to "Lethal Selection," which operated "through the destruction of the individual by some adverse feature of the environment, such as excessive cold, or bacteria, or by bodily deficiency."

CONTINUED...

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796

The people who think they’re better than others aren’t.

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
5. It hardly needs pointing out that TFG is a terrible scumbag,
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:57 PM
Mar 26

even measured only against his fellow scumbags...

But it also doesn't hurt. What a fucking piece of shit! Say it loud, say it every day.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
86. Scumbag Etymology
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:41 PM
Mar 26
scumbag (n.) by 1939, "condom," slang, from scum + bag (n.). Earlier (by 1817) it was used in sugar refining as the name of a frame covered in coarse cloth used in straining. The meaning "despicable person" is attested by 1971.Jul 27, 2022

Etymonline.com

A great word for summing up pee-resident and traitor, Donald J Trump.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
93. That used to be a thing.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 07:56 PM
Mar 26


No reason that it cannot be again, with the Supreme Court majority from the Middle Ages we got.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
8. Trump and his followers delight in rubbing our noses in it, daring us to do something about it.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:00 PM
Mar 26

Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Is this kind of behavior tolerated in all judicial proceedings?

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
99. Menacing in the First Degree
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:24 AM
Mar 27
Menacing is a crime that involves doing something that puts another person in fear of immediate physical injury or death. In other words, instead of actually causing someone physical harm, you threaten to do so. There are four menacing offenses in the New York Penal Code. The least serious is menacing in the third degree. According to New York Penal Code § 120.15 you will face a charge of menacing in the third degree if you do anything that puts another person in reasonable fear of physical injury or death. It is a class B misdemeanor.

https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/new-york-penal-code-120-15-menacing-in-the-third-degree.html

Trump is the first "former pee-resident" to engage in public acts of intimidation I know of. He acts like the NAZI gangster he is.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
10. My god, he talks like a bad cartoon character
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:17 PM
Mar 26

"Adam Shifty Schiff", "Trump Derangement Syndrome,” and "certified Trump Hater". Does he even realize how many "Trump haters" there are out there? And they're not "certified", it just comes naturally when a person is so hateful.

I know eight year olds with a better command of the English language.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
11. How Do We Get Certified?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:21 PM
Mar 26

Had I known we can be certified Trump haters, I'd have done it 8 years ago!
I've been hating him this whole time without credentials.

ShazzieB

(16,420 posts)
97. And issue membership cards!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:08 PM
Mar 26

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd happily make a campaign contribution in return for receiving my "Official Certified Trump Hater" membership card!

Hugin

(33,163 posts)
14. There's nothing sweeter than being an unlicensed Trump hater.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:32 PM
Mar 26

Although, it would be nice to have a certificate to hang in the study.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
70. Same here
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 03:37 PM
Mar 26
"For the record: yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU. But the more important question is, why aren't you, Bob? Now, this is an organization whose sole purpose is to defend the Bill of Rights, so it naturally begs the question: Why would a senator, his party's most powerful spokesman and a candidate for President, choose to reject upholding the Constitution?"

Andrew Shepherd, The American President

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
96. I love that movie
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 09:23 PM
Mar 26

and that was my favorite scene as well. What a great speech. Aaron Sorkin is an amazing writer.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
36. This looks masonic.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:03 PM
Mar 26


I shook hands with a mason at a school board meeting and he kept two fingers on the outside of where they would go in a normal handshake. He said: "Sorry! I thought you were one of us."

MadameButterfly

(1,062 posts)
38. This might be handy if Republicans ever take power
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:06 PM
Mar 26

and the Trump card is equated with card-carrying Communists of yore.

IronLionZion

(45,452 posts)
51. There have been videos of him speaking next to foreign leaders
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:29 PM
Mar 26

and the caption being that only one of them is from an English speaking country.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
52. Obviously
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 26

because Biden won the election, we have more Trump Haters out there than he has Trumphumpers......

My current philosophy is enjoy life as much as possible before November, because after the election results are announced it is anybody's guess what his Trumphumpers will do across the entire nation........Even if Trump wins, I fully expect his TrumpHumpers to act out big time, due to their jubilation........

There has never been a more frightening time during our nation's history, and if you think J6 was horrific, then all of us haven't seen anything yet. We are already getting a taste and it is only March.

Katie Bar The Door, people......

The IRS has been reporting for several years now, that there is an accelerating number of the 1%ers becoming ex-pats and leaving for Dubai and the Scandinavian countries........

MadameButterfly

(1,062 posts)
12. If I were a judge and someone put my daughter in danger
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:25 PM
Mar 26

I can only imagine the lengths I'd go to to make this man suffer.

Trump acts like a man who thinks he has nothing to lose. Innocent people try to get along with judges in hopes of getting an aquittal. He also doesn’t understand that there are people out there principled enough to stand up to threats, because he and the Republicans are all about themselves. I really think he doesn't realize everyone isn't like hime and his ilk.

A gag order seems too little too late. What 's a fit punishment for putting innocent people's lives in danger, obstruction of justice, witness intimidation....How about not being allowed to run for office for starters, but we already tried that one.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
103. Every word, true. And with their sentiment, I am in total agreement.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:53 AM
Mar 27
And exactly what kind of people would support such a man?

The British Cult that Worshiped Hitler

By Zachary Peatling
Present History, July 18, 2022

The room was cold, but the atmosphere was electric. Huddled in rows, thirty inmates of Peveril Internment Camp on the Isle of Man, were held in taut expectation. James Larratt Battersby, known around the camp as ‘The Mad Hatter’, had rallied these men, promising them a spectacle of a speech. Battersby was known for being a powerful salesman, his stories from his time in the British Union of Fascists and his own rousing speeches had helped him sell this proposition.

The man they had come to see? Thomas St. Barbe Baker. His reputation preceded him. He was loud, outspoken and known as a radical Christian. Some had their suspicions however, and pegged him as more of a con artist than convert. Whether by fortuitous coincidence or by design, he had made friends with the richest people in the camp, and seemed to target those with purchasable loyalties and money to spend.

This didn’t dent the excitement of the men that had filled the room to hear him speak. Baker said he had a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit he had to share. And, as he stepped up in front of these men, there did seem to be a sense of some sort of presence around him. Battersby would say that this was because of his connection to God. Others would say it was his own cocksure confidence and heightened self-perception.

As Baker began, gesticulating, his voice filling the room, Battersby was enthralled, the men enraptured and something was being born. Something that would change the lives of Battersby, Baker and the other men and women that would join them. A new group, a new organisation, a new League of Christian Reformers.

As Baker reached the end of his stirring rhetoric, his brow was beaded with sweat, his voice becoming hoarse. Even before he finished his final words, the men before him leapt to their feet, applauding, raising their arms and shouting ‘Heil Hitler!’

This was the moment that marked the beginning of the League of Christian Reformers.


That was 1942. But, the story begins a decade earlier. Oswald Mosley, a politician of limited success, founded the British Union of Fascists in 1932. And it was here that all of the founding members of the League would find their starts.

https://www.presenthistory.co.uk/the-british-cult-that-worshiped-hitler.html

From what I've seen, "Christians" who would harm the weak, the meek and those who turn the other cheek, have black holes where their souls should be.

MadameButterfly

(1,062 posts)
105. Makes sense this would take root with men already in an internment camp
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 03:29 PM
Mar 27

looking for something to elevate them out of their depressed state

TheRickles

(2,065 posts)
19. I'm afraid he won't get sanctioned or have a gag order placed on him until one of his followers takes him literally
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:35 PM
Mar 26

and physically injures someone connected to the case (judge, daughter, wife, etc.).

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
24. He needs to be slapped with more than a gag order for this one
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:40 PM
Mar 26

He's soliciting a murder here and we all know it. The son of a bitch has finally gone too far.

While I favor laryngectomy and amputating all his fingers, custodyuntil after his trial will simply have to do.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
26. He is testing the judge
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:41 PM
Mar 26

He figures, why not use intimidation? Its part of his playbook. Cant delay? Intimidate. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The bad acting in the courtrooms is So So fake as well. The glum face ALL THE TIME. That's so the people he fleeces for money will feel bad for him and give more. Everything about him is fake.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
28. Probably result in another non-binding suggestion to he please stop doing that
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:43 PM
Mar 26

Which in turn will result in a weeks-long appeals process which must run its course before the actual court case can proceed.

You know, just like how it would happen for you or me.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
81. Very limited in scope and substance
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 26

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2024, 10:21 AM - Edit history (1)

An injunction against threatening or harassing agents of the court or their families would seem like the very least requirement of any person involved in legal proceedings.

Let’s see what happens when he violates the order. If he’s jailed incommunicado pending trial, I’ll be satisfied. Short of that, it’s more of Trump pushing the limits of the law and the court with relative impunity.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
94. Forgive a little self-evident hyperbole, because the point is served
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 08:29 PM
Mar 26

Why was the injunction not issued in advance, when it's well known that Trump engages in exactly that kind of threat/provocation behavior? It wouldn't even need to be specific to him; a blanket "I remind both parties that they are to refrain from making threatening or inflammatory comments about agents of the courts or their families," etc.

Was it to draw Trump out? To what end? What will happen when he violates the order?


I guess we'll see.

dweller

(23,641 posts)
31. Sounds like he's attracted to the judge for a moment there
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:48 PM
Mar 26

But more likely calling for a hit on his face … acid ?

I’m not kidding


✌🏻

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
34. He has three weeks
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 26

to force an issue on which he can appeal, and thus delay his trial. If the Judge were to gag him, he would appeal to get an order narrowing the order or withdrawing it altogether. He would claim first amendment rights, and claim to the Appellates that he was deprived of his civil rights.

I hope the Judge rides it out without doing a thing. I would add a private security service, if he doesn't have one already, but just get to the trial. Trump is starting or now emphasizing all his old tricks. We are still waiting on the SC to shoot down his so-called immunity claims. I think he's in a totally bad spot with this trial.

As disappointed as I was for the delay, I think the Judge has got his sh*t together and is preparing to administer justice. So be it. Trump is going to be so embarrassed. And, maybe in jail when it's done. I don't think Donald is very smart to choose off the Judge because, you know, the possible penalties for these crimes. I wouldn't leave him out on bail after he threatened my daughter. I'd make any bail he got offered so high that he couldn't get that bond, either. It's probably mandated, but still...

MadameButterfly

(1,062 posts)
44. Maybe Trump is egging the judge on to do something he can appeal to delay the trial
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:15 PM
Mar 26

But this judge is on to him, and knows it's the last trial left that can happen before the election.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
41. Drag is ass into court.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:13 PM
Mar 26

Confront him to his face. Reprimand him, lay down the options and then GAG him. If the judge let's this slide I will be so pissed.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
48. Jail him
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:20 PM
Mar 26

You can't target a judge's family like this. you or I did this in a case and the judge would throw us in jail without a 2nd thought.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
53. No he wouldn't
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 26

Because we would be "shouting into the wind" so to speak. You can be charged with a crime and stand on a street corner all day yelling that the judge hearing the case hates you and your family. You can post it all day on your Facebook page or whatever social media you want. Unfortunately, this doesn't change for DJT just because he has is own platform. He would have to post a direct, clear threat to the judge or his family for it to not be covered by 1A.

prodigitalson

(2,425 posts)
49. he does whatever he wants to do
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:25 PM
Mar 26

and if he loses what should be the election by 10 million votes and then eeks out an electoral count win he will turn the power of the presidency against everyone who made a helf hearted reluctant effort to stop him.

IronLionZion

(45,452 posts)
50. Dumpy is like a cartoon caricature of a mob boss
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:27 PM
Mar 26

I would hope Judge Merchan and his daughter have security in case any MAGA folks decide to be mentally ill with no political agenda.

Deuxcents

(16,245 posts)
59. All this noise is a set up for seeking a delay
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:40 PM
Mar 26

He still thinks it’s the Democrats that are responsible for all these lawsuits and either he refuses to acknowledge, or his lawyers are in agreement, that it’s certainly not not his criminal activity that has him where he is legally…he did nothing wrong, right? So, the judge and his family must be against him and he needs more time to put up his defense.

LoisB

(7,206 posts)
62. Is there a judge in this country with the cojones to imprison the Orange Menace?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 02:48 PM
Mar 26

Step up sir/madam! Please.

returnee

(43 posts)
64. A gag order...
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 03:07 PM
Mar 26

…so he can appeal it and delay more? I’d think twice about that.

On the other hand, the judge could slap down a very strict gag order with very stiff consequences, and as soon as TSF violates it, slap the cuffs on him before the appeal can be enacted.

No lawyer here, no idea if that would work, but the last thing I want is another delay.

PatrickforB

(14,576 posts)
67. Easy solution. Arrest Trump. NO ONE who is the defendant in a criminal case EVER is allowed to intimidate
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 03:20 PM
Mar 26

either court officers, their families or witnesses and their families.

Why are we allowing Trump to do it?

Seriously if it was ANYONE on this thread pulling this kind of stuff, we'd be slapped in the can faster than you can say intimidation.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
76. I guess we are powerless to arrest a domestic terrorist if he was TFG. Immune. We are a hollow nation of law.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:41 PM
Mar 26

dlk

(11,569 posts)
80. I hope they're keeping a cell warm at Rikers for Mr. Diarrhea Mouth
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:57 PM
Mar 26

He’s a menace to public safety.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
85. Every single one of us would have our bail, or personal recognizance
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:39 PM
Mar 26

revoked, and we would be incarcerated pending trial if we did that.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
91. ...and his daughter is only six steps away from Kevin Bacon!!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 07:04 PM
Mar 26

And we all know what a Trump hating tree hugging liberal he is. hahaha

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
98. Trump derangement syndrome
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:51 AM
Mar 27

Is suffered by any normal human being on this planet. Only idiot magats are immuned.

bif

(22,720 posts)
104. If you or I did this, we'd be behind bars in a nanosecond!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 11:09 AM
Mar 27

How the fuck does he get away with this crap?

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