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SCOOP @PuckNews: NBC NEWS plans to drop ex RNC-chair Ronna McDaniel as a paid contributor following on-air revolt from NBC/MSNBC talent. Execs are deliberating over details; announcement pending. Meanwhile, McDaniel is seeking legal representation.
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10:10 AM · Mar 26, 2024
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)But, don't want to get too far ahead.
Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)She is most probably walking away from a job she has not worked at with a nice check, and then Fox News will hire her to make sure she can be herself, or maybe like Chuck Todd said "she will say whatever the one who pays her wants her to say."
DISCLAIMER: First time I quote Chuck Todd, but one has to give credit where credit is due.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)If she insists on a contract, let her do the live 2:00 am weather in Fairbanks.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)BlueKota
(1,741 posts)prior to NBC hiring her?
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Let's flood them with a lot of documentation that the people don't want to watch someone who is an election denier and possible co-conspirator in the Jan 6 Coup attempt to act like she's for freedom of any sort unless paid to say so.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Here's the text of my email.
I actually see the reason to hire multiple perspectives, but in this case, this hire involves someone who willfully fabricated stories (proven), was involved & actively participated in efforts to illegally usurp the will of the voters, & actively disparaged the media, including NBC, on many occasions.
My second criticism is from a business perspective. There are 2 networks (one very large, the other minor) that have locked up the right wing vote long ago. From a business perspective, hiring a known liar, radically partisan mouthpiece for a radical agenda generally disfavored by the Anerican people risks alienating existing viewers far more than getting settled viewers of right wing competitors to shift allegiance.
It's insulting for believers of good journalism & specious as a business move. It makes me seriously doubt the business acumen of those occupying the executive positions at your network.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Your intelligence is showing.
Not that it's a bad thing.
I like it!!
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)Republicans sure are a litigious lot.
Get involved with a GOP "personality" and sooner or later you're sure to be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.
intheflow
(28,476 posts)NBC didn't have to hire her. They don't have a legal leg to stand on as they are the ones breaking the contract. This is a lawsuit I support, even though I'm very happy she'd not going to be on their payroll any more, and generally think she's a truly horrible person.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)Just goes to show though that the higher-ups at NBC should have put more thought into this hire.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)
I think there are probably a few of them in the executive ranks. They desperately want NBC to be regarded more MAGA friendly. Or at least not be seen as Trump bashers. They want a smarter magat other than the idiots like Comer Pile on their network. Someone who can actually string a few sentences together and sound intelligent when they are pissing all over Democrats.
Sky Jewels
(7,110 posts)CNN has definitely also lurched right though over the past couple years.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)nuxvomica
(12,429 posts)If there's a clause that reads: "This contract may be terminated should Chuck Todd grow a backbone," or something like that, NBC's in the clear.
Ponietz
(2,980 posts)How do you know?
intheflow
(28,476 posts)Just guessing but there was a promise of payment of some kind for regular gig and she was never given the chance to fulfill it. That appears to the courts as if NBC wasnt acting in good faith - ironic since taking her off air was acting in good faith for democracy. But here we are, life in the 21st Century, am I right?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)jimfields33
(15,820 posts)Anybody with a brain would. A contract is a contract. NBC will hopefully do right and negotiate a pay settlement.
MorbidButterflyTat
(1,821 posts)Bring out all her dirty dealings in open court.
Also...."deliberating over details..."?? Just chuck her traitorous ass.
agingdem
(7,850 posts)NBC will settle large chunk of change on her because that payout will be far less than losing sponsor revenue and anchors in revolt...
ancianita
(36,065 posts)The fact that they didn't even know/care that she was in a federal indictment as Co-conspirator 2 doesn't work in their favor, either.
They need to eat the damages and fire the executives who hired her.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)agingdem
(7,850 posts)its lesson when they hired and fired Megan "Santa Claus/Jesus were white" Kelly..they didn't learn its lesson when Kristen Welker was trashed for her MTP debut interview with Trump, allowing him to spew his vomit with no interruptions or pushback never mind a STFU....sometimes a conglomerate like NBC needs to be reminded they need us more than we need them...
ancianita
(36,065 posts)Most media are more for profit than for the nation's being properly informed.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)If she was federally indicted for a crime and did not reveal that to her prospective employer, that might be grounds to void a contract, if there is any kind of "morals clause" in it. Contracts can include the right to dismiss anyone whose actions may reflect badly on the employer, and a federal indictment could fall into that category.
So with luck...
ancianita
(36,065 posts)Nice meme! Too bad it's more story than real life.
ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)walkingman
(7,627 posts)It is a disgrace that they hired her. I like out local NBC and watch MSNBC but whoever hired her should be held accountable - she is disgusting.
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)There are plenty of conservative voices on NBC/MSNBC, but they are sane reasonable people. There was no point or purpose to hiring McDaniel. Among other things like pro-insurrection and election denial, she is also unlikable and unappealing.
Who were they trying to attract?
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)Now if they wanted to show how crazy they are it may be an idea. But they don't need to hire someone.
And once and awhile I've seen a host showcase a "crazy" to make a point. Personally, I don't like it and think it is exploitive, but it's not like they were hiring them as a contributor.
I'll always wonder what was going on in someone's head when they decided McDaniel was a good fit.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)That's the only thing I can think of, but how do you write that unto a contract anyway?
"Must say bad nasty awful things about former President and reveal super secret- secrets concerning a certain political party hint hint wink wink"...
...or something like that.
PatSeg
(47,496 posts)Yeah, don't know how you'd include that in a contract. Meanwhile, how on earth do you trust someone like Ronna anyway?
Traildogbob
(8,748 posts)She is. The courts are only here for GQP representation. None of that petty justice stuff wasting their time.
Will she be sending in Fake Execs to overturn the majority vote? She will provide them lawyers, she told them on a phone call.
Mitten gotta be proud. He may ask she never take back the name trump demanded she drop, just to protect the Romney great reputation.
(Do I need sarcasm thing)
bluesbassman
(19,374 posts)That's IF NBC was stupid with the contract they gave her. If not, tough shit Ronna!
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)If so, I could use some extra cash
TheProle
(2,179 posts)But employer/employee contracts exist for a reason. If her hire came with any protections against immediate termination, then the courts should hash it out.
If that costs NBC more, they can chalk it up to paying for not doing their due diligence.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)to keep her. Or our surrogates, like Rachel.
Ocelot II
(115,732 posts)Some executives' heads should roll for this whole debacle.
ProfessorGAC
(65,061 posts)Ignoring the lost cash for a moment, any execs who did not anticipate the blowback are too stupid to deserve those high salaries.
Now, they've shown they're paid too much for what they do AND it's going to cost the company money that's just wasted.
spooky3
(34,457 posts)I still cant understand how the executives were so completely out of touch as to have signed her in the first place. How could they not have anticipated a forceful pushback?
johnnyfins
(823 posts)They are MAGA. It's quite obvious. In this day and age, it's not really possible to be out of touch concerning the state of our country. ESPECIALLY if you work for a major news outlet. Jesus...
spooky3
(34,457 posts)People inside their organization, and many viewers, would be outraged by this. Top mgts own political preferences are irrelevant. They have to think about profits, and those are driven by on air talent and viewer interest.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)though of course we are getting Kieth's version of things.
It seems they are about money and not the public good, and not very good at either.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)should not occupy any position in a news organization.
rsdsharp
(9,186 posts)They knew what they were getting when they signed her. I cant see that she breached the contract. They dont have to put her on the air, but they do have to pay her, subject to her ability to mitigate her damages.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)Have her do an interview like Tucker did with Putin.
Make her appearances at 3 in the morning.
Have her do a judging of various stinks and identify which closely matches Republicans.
rsdsharp
(9,186 posts)I also assume it contains a for cause termination clause, which I dont see as being triggered. There may also be a buy out clause.You seem to be talking about burying her appearances. I think they would be better served by cutting their losses and buying her out. The problem isnt her performance, its the objection of their on air hosts and viewers.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Beyond that I don't what case she may have.
Blue Owl
(50,402 posts)Kinda like Captain Pantload himself....
Sky Jewels
(7,110 posts)many Americans wont submit to fascism without a fight.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Of course.
But nor did Michael Steele involve himself in the plot to steal an election, provide cover for a coup, get involved with not certifying the 2020 election, and continue to LIE for TSF! Big difference here!
RRM did all of that and then some. The opposition to her by the MSNBC hosts were all based on her own words, actions, and facts on the matters at hand. There is plenty of video evidence to back up these claims.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)He sounds downright liberal compared to Trumpers
IN any case, he's made it clear he want's nothing to do with the insurrection thing.
happy feet
(869 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(3,324 posts)Saw Rachel, did not see others. This was her taking a stand for sure.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/maddow-takes-aim-at-her-own-network-for-ronna-mcdaniel-hire/ar-BB1kwSlI
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)Even Lawrence O'Donnell said "Daniels was too close to the "enemy" meaning the Orange Pus Thug.
MorbidButterflyTat
(1,821 posts)I'm a bit confused, tho, because some were so adamant that NBC and MSNBC were not the same.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,060 posts)and said it was important to admit mistakes and change course.
Prairie_Seagull
(3,324 posts)Just think what we could do if this type of vehemence can be marshaled for...
angrychair
(8,699 posts)To Rachel's segment last night. She welds significant influence with management and peers and her public statement last night pretty much sealed the deal for McDaniel's departure.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)Those are typically equivalent to employee at will positions. You are a consultant. A 1099 professional.
Buhh buhh felicia.
Ocelot II
(115,732 posts)for a certain number of appearances or on-air hours, and if so there's likely to be an early termination clause that entitles her to some amount if they cut her before the contract expires.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)To them to just pay her out.
It not like Meghan Kelley's $69 M contract.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)Of course it was her plus many others, but she made a powerful case and pretty hard to argue against or ignore. She literally laid down the gauntlet. Thank you Rachel.
dchill
(38,502 posts)... against NBCNews and McDaniel. But Rachel Maddow is the Captain of that ship.
MadameButterfly
(1,062 posts)Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)spooky3
(34,457 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,622 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Nothing a news room should be involved with.
dchill
(38,502 posts)liberalla
(9,249 posts)correct (obvious) thing in the first place.
dchill
(38,502 posts)You get consequences.
liberalla
(9,249 posts)so here we go ~
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)IowaGuy
(778 posts)are the brain dead suits that thought it was a good idea to hire her in the first place. Those synaptically challenged ass clowns are still sitting in their executive suites.
blue neen
(12,321 posts)Excellent! You have a way with words.
Sky Jewels
(7,110 posts)than stupid. They want to be good little lap dogs for their billionaire masters.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)NBC has decision makers that are a problem in the first place for hiring her.
She is planning on a legal action, well, she will just be spending a lot of money she needs to live on.
NBC is much bigger and has more lawyers!
MOMFUDSKI
(5,556 posts)One can hope.
live love laugh
(13,118 posts)NonPC
(305 posts)She'll take it to the Supreme Court if she needs to.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)et tu
(875 posts)smoke and mirrors of nothing to see about defendant 45
news corps are mainly conservative, owners are business first
and we know the money class can buy just about anybody they want.
unite and vote~
Mickju
(1,803 posts)angrychair
(8,699 posts)I knew it was only a matter of time. She brings in more eyes and revenue than most of the rest of the on air talent combined.
This very likely due in no small part to her statement last night on her show.
Cha
(297,284 posts)NBachers
(17,119 posts)bagimin
(1,333 posts)and send her off to newsmax or the steve bannon show.
Marcuse
(7,487 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)Cha
(297,284 posts)Emile
(22,788 posts)that hired her.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Jarqui
(10,126 posts)the person who hired her
Warpy
(111,270 posts)That happens often enough, she'll be using her legal representation to try to get out of that contract, not enforce it.
NBC should have vetted her a little better. Most recent job title certainly didn't tell them what they needed to find out about her.
She'll land on her feet. I'm sure Newsmax will hire her.
sybylla
(8,513 posts)She doesn't get to work for anyone else.
Then when she's charged with election interference, they can fire her for cause.
wolfie001
(2,251 posts).....needs to go bye bye. This is like putting a nat-zee on the Nuremburg Tribunal.
Rocknation
(44,576 posts)and the person responsible for coming up with the ludicrous idea of hiring her, and drive on. Didn't we just finish resolving a problem by eliminating the mere appearance of impropriety?
Rocknation
dlk
(11,567 posts)She wont be missed. NBC knowingly and willingly trashed its reputation as a serious news organization.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)The Ronnamucci.
twodogsbarking
(9,757 posts)BlueKota
(1,741 posts)I am troubled by their statement though about continuing to wanting to hire people with varying view points. I'd be okay with that, if it were a traditional old fashioned conservative Republican.
But there isn't one Trump supporter they could find who doesn't support the big lie about the election, or over throwing the United States of America as it exists? If they want to interview some of the shit heads with a reporter who is willing forcefully humiliate them with facts, I'm fine with that. Giving the jobs as "contributers or commentators", however, gives the false impression they actually have something of truth and value to add to the conversation. If there is a Maggat capable of doing that I haven't seen one yet. The fourth estate's job isn't to please and appease all viewers, it's to report on what's actually happening, and when commenting can be of value add it, but only when it's reality based.