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At one time, Geraldo Rivera was a very good and honest journalist. I noticed him one day in New York City on the Avenue of the Americas(6th) during the summer of 1973, interviewing people for an upcoming segment for Good Night America that ran on ABC on Friday nights. Over the years since the emergence of FOX News, he had hardened. Gone was the truth. Now, he is but a bitter man who bought into the BIG LIE. Perhaps Geraldo is unable to handle the truth that Rachel Maddow is more the Journalist he had aspired to be.NewsNation correspondent Geraldo Rivera blasted NBCs cabal of aging hosts for instigating the networks firing of Ronna McDaniel, but he saved his most pointed remarks for Rachel Maddow of MSNBC.
After McDaniel, the former Republican National Committee chair, was dismissed on Tuesday, Rivera zeroed in on Maddow, whose nearly 30-minute on-air objection to the original hiring grabbed headlines. Maddow likened her employers move to hiring a mobster to work at the DAs office.
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Deep State Witch
(10,429 posts)Dude's been around since I was a kid, and I'm 59. He needs to crawl back into Al Capone's vault.
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)Resorted to the hackneyed ad hominin logical fallacy of avoiding the principles of her argument.
NanaCat
(1,167 posts)He attacked her support of what he deems a political stance ('wokeism'), which, while repugnant, is not an ad hominem. It's attacking her claims, not her, really.
The ad hominem was 'cabal of aging hosts' because their age had nothing to do with their arguments.
JohnSJ
(92,219 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)He was idealistic and more liberal minded than he is now and has become.
limbicnuminousity
(1,402 posts)prior to the Capone vault fiasco. Then again, I was in elementary school at that time.
JohnSJ
(92,219 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)It has been mostly downhill ever since.
JohnSJ
(92,219 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)He earned that one.
rampartc
(5,412 posts)he has always been a caricature of a journalist.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Who knew?
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Natural mistake, I guess..........
Johonny
(20,851 posts)Activity? Sure, who wouldnt do that. Right? Is he that stupid or is he just infected by RW lazy journalism where you get so use to never being questioned, you just spout out dumb lazy shit and never think anyone will call you on it?
SocialDemocrat61
(607 posts)Al Capones vault yet?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)During the scene when the vault that was holding the Diamond called The Heart of The Ocean was opened. No Diamond.
"You know, boss, the same thing happened to Geraldo and his career NEVER recovered."
sop
(10,193 posts)Thanks, Geraldo. DeSantis will start using that term now, maybe even pass a law banning it.
maxrandb
(15,334 posts)He's a D-List actor who didn't have the talent to be a Hollywood Movie Star, so he took a gig playing the role of "newsman" on cable TV.
There's a shit-ton of folks whose dream is to be the new Tom Cruise, but they have to settle for interviewing hayseeds at the Dew Drop Inn in some Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika shithole.
NanaCat
(1,167 posts)While Rivera apparently had a rough time getting settled on a career when he was young, acting wasn't one of the things he tried to 'use' to get attention. He eventually went to law school, and rose to local prominence as a lawyer and community activist.
After he'd appeared in some interviews on the telly, WABC in New York offered him a job as a reporter. They even arranged for a grant to send him to J-school. That paid off when he won a Peabody only two years into the job for his investigative report on abuses at the Willowbrook state mental hospital. The Peabody brought him to the attention of the national news desk at ABC, and he moved up the ranks from there--a national nightly news show, and a regular slot on the show 20/20.
As always, he has enough flaws to criticize without making up ones he doesn't.
unc70
(6,115 posts)For example among the older, Andrea Mitchell is 77, Lawrence O'Donnell 72. Rachel is only 50.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Did Geraldo ever mention that Rachel was also an A student at Stanford as well as a Rhodes Scholar? Of course not!
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,967 posts)Rivera, who has been a has been for years, accuses Maddow of malignant wokeism. Not only is Rivera a has been but he has become a poor, pitiful parrot that has been reduced to squawking woke over anything he disagrees with.
Ive considered Rivera a joke ever since he got left with egg on his face after the Al Capone vault opening fiasco.
Ocelot II
(115,735 posts)NanaCat
(1,167 posts)At one time, he was a good investigative reporter. You don't get a Peabody as a fluke. His Willowbrook series was terrific journalism, and he did several good stories on 20/20, before his fame went to his head.
Ocelot II
(115,735 posts)so I'll have to take your word for it. He certainly torpedoed his career with the Al Capone's safe story, then took it down another notch when the army kicked him out of Iraq for broadcasting troop movements.
malaise
(269,054 posts)That is all
spanone
(135,844 posts)mopinko
(70,127 posts)old enough to remember him from before the vault. he did some good work. work that was risky. but still was never in her league.
he was already sinking before the vault. thats why he did it.
malaise
(269,054 posts)😀
NanaCat
(1,167 posts)At one time, he was a good reporter. It's not that he was better or worse than Maddow; it's that he occupied a different niche than she does. She's an anchor who does in-depth news analysis. He was more of the old school investigative reporter.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)hes b dead. his reporting was more like free pr.
Hotler
(11,425 posts)Tell Sackett's school of barbering.
lees1975
(3,861 posts)with a predictable narrative.
McDaniel advocated stealing an election, and has no business in the media. She's a liar. I'm pretty sure she's engaged in criminal conduct when it comes to the effort to push fake electors. There's no interpretation of the constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech that permits that kind of subversive rhetoric. The fact that she is still walking around free is a travesty of justice, and evidence that our justice system is lacking in its ability to fairly enforce the law.
Geraldo is entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to ignore it.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)standing in his bathroom, wrapped in a towel. Talk about an "aging host" who's desperate for attention.
I'm really confused as to why Geraldo Rivera, a person who trashed his "serious" career from 20 years ago by stupidly exposing the position of our troops in Iraq on television, has an opinion that's taken seriously today. He's a fucking buffoon.
bullimiami
(13,099 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)... did not see where he said this... he left FOX News, I think. Geraldo should hang up the moustache. He peaked with his vulgar tabloid TV show. Rachel must make many more millions than he did - and she only has to di it 1x per week, sitting down, with no chairs thrown at her nose!
ificandream
(9,373 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,819 posts)And the lowest for Geraldo.
Hes meaningless to me.
Sky Jewels
(7,113 posts)"...Rivera accused the network of arrogance ..."
Mr. Pot, please meet The Kettle.
AZ8theist
(5,476 posts)wolfie001
(2,252 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)I had such hopes for him in the mid-1970s.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)have to say is look in the mirror Geraldo, look in the mirror. There is the aging host.
Picaro
(1,521 posts)Who cares what Geraldo Rivera thinks.
He ruined his persona with his relentless attsmpts to remain relevant.
He still shows signs of the remnants of a moral compass, but then hell revert back to his practiced amorality.
Geraldo criticizing Rachel Maddow? Oh that is rich.
MichMan
(11,938 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)hadEnuf
(2,194 posts)cloudbase
(5,520 posts)hadEnuf
(2,194 posts)jaxexpat
(6,833 posts)and decidedly, a bit overwrought.
dchill
(38,505 posts)...that sensationalists are not journalists. And vice versa.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)He is jealous of Rachel, to boot.
I think that Rachel Maddow is guilty of malignant wokeism, Rivera told NewsNation host Chris Cuomo. God did not anoint her the arbiter of who was appropriate for her network to hire or what their point of view is.
Rivera accused the network of arrogance and disrespecting the tens of millions who voted for Trump, including those who believe the election was stolen (a thesis that Rivera said he rejects.)
Rivera added that McDaniel is the most intimate insider NBC could ever have hired. It was a brilliant idea. She would have or could have spilled the beans on the fake electors and the alternate slates and so forth and so on. Instead, you had this cabal of aging superstars at the network who insisted that this person was somehow inappropriate. Says who and according to whom?.
Good grief.
unblock
(52,253 posts)Darwins_Retriever
(853 posts)Hated Jerry Rivers with a passion. And that is good enough for me. Jerry was married to Kurt's daughter, cheated on her and dumped her.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)and then got scolded for it.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Geraldo is upset because hosts at MSNBC had concerns about McDaniel's integrity as a reporter based on a pattern of behavior that she exhibited while the head of the RNC and her participation in spreading the LIES about the 2020 election that lead to the January 6th Insurrection and continue to disrupt the country today. He is upset that as a result of those concerns, the staff at MSNBC made their objections known and basically told their boss (MSNBC) that they could not and would not welcome this known liar and propagandist into the network.
That is my interpretation of Geraldo's objection. Of course he flowers it up with language and mental gymnastics about "censorship" and whatever. As if the network he works for doesn't censor. We all censor. There is no one who simply allows every single opinion to be shared publicly using a companies platform. I don't see Fox hosting a serious analysis of the benefits of say, Socialism as opposed to Capitalism on their network. They use the term as a boogeyman to scare their audience. That is censorship.
What Geraldo is arguing for is allowing a known and proven liar to be allowed a large platform and a lot of money IN THE HOPES that she MIGHT expose some of the problems within the Trump faction of the Conservative movement. That is, if you grant that he is arguing in good faith. That is the Steel Man argument. What in McDaniel's history would suggest that she would do that? I suppose you can argue that she wants revenge, but she hasn't shown any inclination toward criticizing Trump since her ouster from the RNC.
Giving McDaniel a spot on MSNBC would not "attract" Conservatives to the channel. That is stupid and naive at best and cynical and mendacious at worst. Giving McDaniel a position at MSNBC would give any legitimacy that the network has to a known liar and propagandist. It would introduce a viewpoint to the network, that is invalid and destructive.
Not all points of view are valid. We don't typically see outward supporters of Nazism and Holocaust denial promoted on any reputable networks. Why? I mean, it is a point of view, with an audience, right? Geraldo is engaging in a very typical right wing tactic. They use the Liberal idea of "the marketplace of ideas" not because they believe in that on their side, but because they know enough Liberals do believe it, that they can use it to "shame" Liberals into allowing toxic and invalid viewpoints into the mainstream. Sadly, if works too often.
Emile
(22,789 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(1,822 posts)"She would have or could have spilled the beans on the fake electors and the alternate slates and so forth and so on."
And now she can't? Why? She should "spill the beans" under oath.
I think that Rachel Maddow is guilty of malignant wokeism,
Let's see...use undefinable bullshit to make "nastiest barb," against most popular person at MSNBC and political media, then bask in the negative attention.
Cuomo said it would have been "such a beautiful opportunity."
If he really feels that way he should have her on his stupid worthless show.
Jeez, I used to really like him, once upon a time. WTF happened to him.
Justice matters.
(6,933 posts)to run for POTUS as the leader or the Republican Qult of Personality.
A lifelong criminal who stole and shows off National-Security's most secret military documents to anyone who pays to enter his country club and who promises to destroy the Constitution of the United States to proclaim himself dictator on day one.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)What an idiotic notion! She was part of the effort, and he thinks she's going to rat on herself?
Her appearance on MTP suggested no such thing.
There is actually evidence that she would di the opposite.
He's desperately seeking relevance.
MistakenLamb
(526 posts)3rd rate Jerry Springer whose head is as empty as Capones vault
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... the contents of Rachel Maddow's safe.
We all know she has something in there. And, since he's a "real reporter" ...
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Evidently believes journalism means catering to the demonstrably false beliefs of your audience as opposed to reporting the truth.
patphil
(6,182 posts)Said the 80 year old "news commentator" who is desperately seeking relevance.
That guy hasn't been "real" for decades.
Obviously case of jealously.
spanone
(135,844 posts)STFU you hack.
senseandsensibility
(17,066 posts)But then his buddy cheato likes to call people fat, stupid, and liars. These freaks take their own worst qualities and project them onto others. Down deep, they know they are losers.