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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 07:38 AM Mar 28

Trump is losing support among GOP senators


Trump is losing support among GOP senators
Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 7:15:03p EDT
by Kerry Eleveld

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Democrats have for years wondered "what if" Murkowski were to become an independent senator and caucus with Democrats. Given their heavy lift to keep the Senate this cycle, a Murkowski flip could be the difference between majority and minority status for Democrats. Now the longtime Alaska senator seems to be in wait-and-see mode given that the center of gravity within the Senate Republican caucus might move in an even more MAGA direction once Mitch McConnell steps down as caucus leader later this year.

But Murkowski also wasn't the only GOP senator balking at Trump's praise for the convicted Jan. 6 rioters, whom he calls "hostages" and pledges to pardon if elected.

"I was the last Senate member out of the chamber on January the 6th," Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina told Raju. "I saw Capitol police members bleeding, bruised, and I saw damage to a certain extent as we were exiting. To call those people patriots is not in my lexicon.”


Sen. Mike Rounds of South Dakota echoed Tillis. "Those individuals that have been found guilty, I do not consider them to be patriots," he said.


Neither senator suggested they would break with Trump over his Jan. 6 betrayal, but their public defiance of him is still notable.

During the Trump era, Americans have grown used to virtually all elected Republicans rolling over for Trump while privately telling reporters they despise him. But eight years into Trump's hostile takeover of the Republican Party, we may be starting to see a tipping point among a small slice of old-guard Republicans who actually value the Constitution and see little left for them to rally around in a party dominated by Trump.

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/27/2231889/-Anti-Trump-sentiment-among-GOP-lawmakers-may-be-small-but-it-s-growing
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Trump is losing support among GOP senators (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 28 OP
Day One Dictator Trump could dismiss the legislature. That's what dictators do. bucolic_frolic Mar 28 #1
Yes, there is a dictator playbook PatSeg Mar 28 #8
All we're short is Susan Collins weighing in. Spare us. OnDoutside Mar 28 #2
I hadn't thought about Susan Collins PatSeg Mar 28 #9
One would hope ! OnDoutside Mar 28 #22
And one could hope she might retire PatSeg Mar 28 #23
She's 8 years younger than Angus King, and in the Senate. OnDoutside Mar 28 #25
I didn't realize that PatSeg Mar 29 #27
Must be something to do with the structure of Senate races ? OnDoutside Mar 29 #28
Yes, that often is the case PatSeg Mar 29 #29
I'll believe it when they actually do something meaningful tulipsandroses Mar 28 #3
Yeah and I wouldn't hold my breath PatSeg Mar 28 #11
"Profiles in Cowardice" Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 28 #13
Oh, "cowardice" is far better than "cowardness" PatSeg Mar 28 #14
You're welcome but Prof. Toru Tanaka Mar 28 #20
That's okay PatSeg Mar 28 #21
He's not losing GOP support. LuvLoogie Mar 28 #4
Has Susie Collins expressed "Concern"? ProudMNDemocrat Mar 28 #5
Maybe. Let's check: AZ8theist Mar 28 #10
The woman who said Trump "learned his lesson" after the Ukraine impeachment stumpysbear Mar 28 #6
I believe that was Susan Collins MagickMuffin Mar 28 #16
Leaving the Republicans, but still caucusing with them and voting with them is nothing more that a gesture. DFW Mar 28 #7
Talk But No Walk WiVoter Mar 28 #12
Nah. They'll fall in line. Power is more than democracy to them. AllyCat Mar 28 #15
True. (nt) WiVoter Mar 28 #19
Yet, they still vote in Congress the way he wants them to, so as mentioned in another 4lbs Mar 28 #17
80-100 Republican Representatives are voting with Democrats to get legislation passed and prevent a government Martin68 Mar 28 #18
Murkowski might leave the Republican Party but that does not mean she'd flip to caucus with the Democrats. All Mixed Up Mar 28 #24
The will go which ever way the wind blows on a particular day. No ethics, no morals and poor judgement. Chainfire Mar 28 #26

bucolic_frolic

(43,175 posts)
1. Day One Dictator Trump could dismiss the legislature. That's what dictators do.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 07:46 AM
Mar 28

Not a career move for Senators.

PatSeg

(47,493 posts)
8. Yes, there is a dictator playbook
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:50 AM
Mar 28

and eliminating and/or weakening the other branches of government is usually on the top of the list. Then there are the courts that will still exist, but minus anyone who opposes the leader. Netanyahu attempted to overhaul the judicial system in Israel to protect himself and in the process increase his power.

They are all the same with minor variations. Trump knows this and would start to eliminate his enemies on day one, if not before.

PatSeg

(47,493 posts)
9. I hadn't thought about Susan Collins
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:53 AM
Mar 28

in a long time. Perhaps she learned to just keep her mouth shut, cuz people aren't buying her shit anymore.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
25. She's 8 years younger than Angus King, and in the Senate.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 07:48 PM
Mar 28

I just hope there is someone better than Gideon getting ready to challenge her.

PatSeg

(47,493 posts)
27. I didn't realize that
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 09:27 AM
Mar 29

Angus King seems younger.

What is it about being a senator that so many don't want to let it go?

PatSeg

(47,493 posts)
29. Yes, that often is the case
Fri Mar 29, 2024, 08:50 PM
Mar 29

I just don't understand why some of them don't want to retire and maybe travel, spend time with family, and maybe write a book. The senate seems to be addictive.

PatSeg

(47,493 posts)
11. Yeah and I wouldn't hold my breath
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:56 AM
Mar 28

This is about as gallant as they're going to get and we'd be lucky if they didn't walk back their comments like they've done so many times before. Talk about Profiles in Cowardness - they'll carry the stench of Trump to their graves.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
7. Leaving the Republicans, but still caucusing with them and voting with them is nothing more that a gesture.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 09:39 AM
Mar 28

It's good for headlines and interviews, but if they still keep voting against us on issues like abortion right, voting rights, Citizens United, budget issues, etc., then the I instead of the R before their name is nothing more to their majority leader (whoever it is) than a mosquito bite, and not a cobra bite. A full party switch to the Democrats, and nothing less, will be the only thing that matters to us. If and when THAT happens (or at least a publicly announced intention to caucus with us), THEN we will have seen true movement.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
17. Yet, they still vote in Congress the way he wants them to, so as mentioned in another
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:36 AM
Mar 28

comment above, I'll wait to see if they actually vote AGAINST his wishes and figuratively tell him to "F OFF"

Take a risk, take a chance
otherwise we will ignore your stance
It might get rough, it might get tough
but we got to hear you actually vote "ENOUGH!"
Otherwise, you are just more hot air for that blowhard.

Martin68

(22,806 posts)
18. 80-100 Republican Representatives are voting with Democrats to get legislation passed and prevent a government
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 11:48 AM
Mar 28

default. They are no longer all in lock-step with the Trump agenda.

 

All Mixed Up

(597 posts)
24. Murkowski might leave the Republican Party but that does not mean she'd flip to caucus with the Democrats.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 07:07 PM
Mar 28

I doubt she'd ever do that.

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