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Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:26 PM - Edit history (3)
(on edit: I put the word 'Motherfuckers' back into the OP headline... the general consensus if that, in this case, the word Motherfucker is, most definitely appropriate)
This Article at Huffpo, if you haven't seen it already, is blowing up all over facebook and twitter....
I Have seen several posts over the last ten days or so on DU as well on the same topic... this article however, is putting some fuel to the fire and is starting to stir up some well deserved outrage.
link to article
WASHINGTON -- The corporate CEOs who have made a high-profile foray into deficit negotiations have themselves been substantially responsible for the size of the deficit they now want closed.
The companies represented by executives working with the Campaign To Fix The Debt have received trillions in federal war contracts, subsidies and bailouts, as well as specialized tax breaks and loopholes that virtually eliminate the companies' tax bills.
The CEOs are part of a campaign run by the Peter Peterson-backed Center for a Responsible Federal Budget, which plans to spend at least $30 million pushing for a deficit reduction deal in the lame-duck session and beyond.
During the past few days, CEOs belonging to what the campaign calls its CEO Fiscal Leadership Council (see pdf pages below listing memebrs) -- most visibly, Goldman Sachs' Lloyd Blankfein and Honeywell's David Cote -- have barnstormed the media, making the case that the only way to cut the deficit is to severely scale back social safety-net programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security -- which would disproportionately impact the poor and the elderly.
As part of their push, they are advocating a "territorial tax system" that would exempt their companies' foreign profits from taxation, netting them about $134 billion in tax savings, according to a new report from the Institute for Policy Studies titled "The CEO Campaign to Fix the Debt: A Trojan Horse for Massive Corporate Tax Breaks" -- money that could help pay off the federal budget deficit.
Yet the CEOs are not offering to forgo federal money or pay a higher tax rate, on their personal income or corporate profits. Instead, council recommendations include cutting "entitlement" programs, as well as what they call "low-priority spending."
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Here is the LIST of all of the CEO's who will do anything to continue to steal from us:
Here is their Bullshit Website http://www.fixthedebt.org/
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)can and should be ignored? When you have it all what else do you need? Oh, I know..you need everybody else to have nothing!
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)You could edit.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)the time at DU? I am seriously outraged... and that word, really hit the spot, again, any suggestions would be welcomed
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)While I wouldn't be surprised at all if your post will be if not already alerted on, I would be very surprised if a jury would agree to hide it as it currently is.
Good OP though! Will rec it.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Thanks for the heads up though....
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)That's what comes to mind for me.....
Reprehensible wastes of oxygen.
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arthritisR_US
(7,299 posts)not change a thing in your OP!
LukeFL
(594 posts)They ARE mOtherfuckers!! I hope P. Obama do Not cave in. I hope he gibes them a fight!
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)people including grandmothers and mothers, the word is quite appropriate seems to me.
This is exceptional.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)motherfucker might not look so good on the Homepage
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)we are who we are, and we are mad as hell!
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)definitely needed it
Zorra
(27,670 posts)We're adults!
hehheh heheh hehhehheh.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)neck-breathing scumsuckers? Or mother-rapers, or ugly-demon-nightmare-shitbags-from-hell...aka Wall St.?
The POS in the photo is also the one who claimed he is doing god's work by screwing everybody in the country out of their hard earned $$.
He needs to be taken down several notches... Probably one of mittens' heroes. I'd love to see that one, in particular, doing the perp walk in full view of the world. Maybe this could be a case for The Hague.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Just not enough room in the op subject line
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)I was laughing pretty hard when I wrote it, but make no mistake, I share your sentiment entirely! In all honesty though, it's one of my all-time favorites...
ugly-demon-nightmare-(insert your issue or epithet here)-from-hell. And for the sensitive folks you can trade the word "hell" for "outerspace". Works every time.
calimary
(81,514 posts)Or needle-dick bug-fucker. Little things like that.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)KnR for an excellent op which I intend to bookmark and share. Thank you for this material. I am ok with you changing out the word 'motherfucker' because these greedy selfish sociopaths do not deserve the joy of having sex with anyone's mother! If it were up to me and on the off chance any of them is reading my response, let me be on record with suggesting that the only ones they can go fuck is themselves.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)thanks
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maindawg
(1,151 posts)grow the fuck up
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)h2ebits
(646 posts)Doing my own self edit. I like to post DU articles to my Facebook page but have turned down many due to unnecessary vulgar words in the heading and/or body. I won't be posting this article either--too bad.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)op didn't seem right without it....
I send way more time reading DU material than fb material... still review my fb a couple times daily... but DU is way more deep and interesting, and honest... when I posted the op last night... this article mad me furious and I used the most honest word that came to me when I wrote the subject line... and motherfuckers it was!
try facebooking the actual article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/25/deficit-reduction-council-fiscal-cliff_n_2185585.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
and then post the thread link http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021882694 with the comment 'Discussion thread at DU'
how does that sound?
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trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)It will be alerted and deleted either way...
WillyT
(72,631 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)fight against our health care, and social security . . . .
What better argument in support of SOCIALISM is there than the American CEO.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)any arguments against socialism that would be viable at this point. We should nationalize the banks for starters.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)from an effort to continue to rape the poor.
Oh, an additional punishment - live like a poor man for no less than 120 days.
And no cellphones or contact.
Think "Life Stinks"
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)nationalize the banks, it's our money anyway... then send them on a Carribean cruise to gitmo... indefinitely.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)That and switch my kids flights from Jet Blue to Alaska. Other than that not much of an impact for me to stay away from these companies.
DiehardLiberal
(580 posts)sakabatou
(42,177 posts)trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)spanone
(135,887 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Voltaire
(2,639 posts)for these filthy bastards
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Obama is fighting to give them $40 billion in tax cuts.
Yeah, sure, game on.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)From Obama.... I think he had his heart and mind in the right place.... Once he realizes who and what he needs to be protecting... It'll be game on from him too... I have a good feeling about this next round of fisticuffs....
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I don't even like what Obama says he will fight for http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021880321#post3
dchill
(38,547 posts)flaunting their perversion. Economic extortionists making their threats. Kidnappers making their ransom demands.
But who can stop them?
trueblue2007
(17,240 posts)And now they want to cut Social Security, NO, NO AND NO!! I say BRING IT ON UGLY. It is pretty bad when a news article makes ME CRY.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Don't look for the billionaires/millionaires congresscritters to make an effort in that directions. They are only out for themselves and we aren't on their radar, at least not until the next election.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)we just happen to look like pixelated out worker drones that only require the crack o' the whip and nothing more... eventually we drop dead and they put our children in our places. It's really very simple, their problem is that a fair number of us have a clue about what they're trying to do and that we know we have rights, so far at least.
neverforget
(9,437 posts)for us to get by in life.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)as a list of people whose products are not to be bought.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)Especially since the top scumbags from Microsoft are on this list.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)It's just about every big business in the country. All our cellphones, laptops, most communications entities and banks... Most of them. So we need a solution set and go for it.
Maybe we should create a new currency that is of no use to them. It would be hard but localize and socialize everything, it would mean giving up a lot of conveniences that people have come to rely on... but that was the intent, to get us hooked on things we have been led to believe we can't live without. We can live without a lot of their stuff but we will have to be more willing to take care of each other more than we currently do as a society. It's not impossible, just requires a change in what we value and how we go about interacting with each other. That's what a social contract is, like the Constitution for example, and we have to get our collective mind around a more streamlined concept of freedom and responsibility to make it work, a more structured concept f what we see as our national worth.
These douchebags have composed an argument for what they want, we should do the same to counter them and hold our elected officials to it... we are their employers after all.
And if there should end up being some social safety net cuts even discussed, I say we start demanding that the golden parachute offered and paid for by we the people that goes to the free healthcare and pensions of our do nothing Congress be item #1 before anything else is even remotely considered. Those people get free healthcare for themselves and their families for life, and we out here in the lowly workingstiffistan get shit unless we pay the equivalent of a mortgage on a luxury trophy home just have the privilege of being denied healthcare, among other services we deserve and have worked to make possible.
druidity33
(6,448 posts)just felt i needed to add that. I felt i needed to reply based on the Congressional Healthcare issue. It's stuck in my craw for awhile now. That's pretty damn good health care and they have to serve, what 2+ terms and they get it for life? That's 5 freaking years... enough to DO ANYTHING to get a 3rd term just so they could get excellent HC forever.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)Been what you'd call a "big" Ed Rendell fan for this very reason....
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)msongs
(67,453 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Let the decisive battle begin.
Webster Green
(13,905 posts)No way those assholes will take away our benefits, and get away with it.
That would leave me (and many others) with nothing left to lose, and we will start fighting them for real.
Keep pushing mutherfuckers. We have just about had it with you.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)someone is bound to go postal with this list in hand
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Can't think of why public pressure can't repeat itself with these asses. Speaking of asses, might pick off a congressman or two along the way also.
DearHeart
(692 posts)How the HELL do you STOP THIS SHIT??? You can't just boycott these products and that's it. When is the rest of the country going to WAKE THE HELL UP??? Do we have to have 1 million, 5 million, 10 million or more, marching on DC and in every major city of this country?? Would anyone even pay attention if we did have millions in every city, protesting??
I know that I'm being a worrywart and quite possibly a drama queen here, but I'm getting seriously scared, disgusted, and actually nauseous, thinking that we're going to be sold down the river!!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)It is better to not have jobs than to let those people keep raping the nation and average citizens. Our government must call their fucking bluff, or we must get rid of our government. Let companies take their jobs offshore, we must force them to sell all of their products offshore also while we buy products from companies that believe in and invest in this country. Economic wars go both ways, we have allowed them to run roughshod over us - where has that gotten the average person? This must end now.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)will be too little too late for all of us who depends solely on these programs.
Isn't that how it usually works out and exactly what these greedheads are counting on?
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Let them spend all the money they want to, they can't buy people power. I wonder how many of those 300,000 people voted for President Obama? I am betting very fucking few of them - fuck them also. This is a battle for the very heart and soul of this country and what we will be as a nation. They have a fight on their hands and if democratic politicians think they will be allowed to give in to those motherfuckers this time, they have another thought coming.
Those people think they own everything. Our job is to hold politicians feet to the fire or end their political careers if they don't act in every day people's best interests. Their statement in the ad that the election is over, but OUR momentum - OUR momentum? Those assholes bankrolled Mitt Romney and republicans and fought us every fucking centimeter of the way to the election. Now it is time for them to make the equivalent contribution to this nation that the average person makes. Elections have consequences, losers don't set the agenda.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Talk about dependency on "big gub'mint." These guys are robbing the store six ways from Sunday, and the pitiful Red State denizens are carrying their water -- you know, all those craptastic lines like "heroic job creators," and "what's wrong with being successful?"
These cutthroats are ON THE DOLE, taking it from OUR pockets, and they want it ALL.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...As with the whole Papa John's fiasco, we shouldn't just say, "Don't buy Papa John's pizza," we should also say, "Get pizza from some small, local place instead." Because part of the stranglehold these companies have is that customers are unaware of any alternatives. They advertise so much, and have so many stores that people don't think anything equal or even better exists. So if we say, "Don't by anything from Macy's" that's not good enough. We also need to say, "Try Nordstrom's instead" or something like that.
Because these CEOs are able to spew such crap because they believe not only that they are invulnerable, but that customers are enslaved to them as workers used to be enslaved to the company store. They believe that customers have no alternative or choice--or at least that customers have been brainwashed to think they have no alternative or choice.
So when you make up and pass around these lists of evil CEO's and their companies--offer alternatives. Because what these arrogant asses are saying is going to make people mad, and they are going to want to avoid those companies. But doing without a flight on Jet Blue isn't going to be nearly as clear a message as doing without flights on Jet Blue in favor of flights on: (fill in the blank here of a good, undervalued, American airline). Let's not just punish the bad CEOs, let's reward the small businesses and good CEOs--and make people see that they don't have to do "without" in order to do "without."
riverSdawn
(9 posts)Thank you Moonwalk for this awesome post. It should be it's own thread. Solutions-alternatives- hope and change.
power to the people
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)I believe I heard on the msm this morning that the cost to the consumer for Walmart to pay its employees a living wage (generally considered to be about $12.50 an hour) would be $17 a year.
Whos keeping notes?
silverweb
(16,402 posts)world wide wally
(21,755 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)contributors and you should find those four on it. They fought us every step of the way. Why should we care what they want? Their interests have never been aligned with ours. It is time to hold our political leaders feet to the fire, we will not tolerate abandonment of us in favor of people whose actions have made them our sworn enemies. They have outsourced jobs, forced down wages, nearly bankrupted the nation. Who gives a shit about what they think? Who should?
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)you lost,the people won.
We would like all our money back with the same interest that you asshats charge,does 3000% over the time to payback sound fair?
That is funny,it was a steal of a deal when you had the upper hand.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Is that what they want?
Didn't work back then in '29... but I guess they were not born yet?
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Burnin's to good for 'em.
They should be torn into little bitty pieces and buried alive!
[link:
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Print it up. Pass it out.
Every psycho killer in america should have this.
Along with their addresses.
Just sayin'.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)with that is that they already employ many psycho killers in that rarely heard of anymore institution formerly known as Blackwater. Don't forget them as they may end up doing the dirty work once the war between the people and the oligarchs heats up.
Just sayin'...
Milliesmom
(493 posts)I'm hoping someone will start an online ppetition and/or a march against these people. Alan Garyson anyone, Bernie Sanders? where are they?
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)you know, Occupy Wall Street movement that was brutally evicted from many public spaces last year? Who are now on the forefront of the NYC Sandy relief operations?
For some good, honest coverage of the movement and what they are doing now...
http://billmoyers.com/content/one-year-after-the-occupation/
http://billmoyers.com/content/peoples-relief/
SariesNightly
(285 posts)by these degenerates
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)I'm sure it affects their profit somehow but I don't really see how.
They certainly aren't trying to bring it down so the next generation can live better.
What do they get out of lower national debt?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)scare tactics seems to work or so they believe. We shall see.
Their "concern" is greed deep and those working stiffs carrying water for these vultures need to see that.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Perfectly describes my sentiments!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The misery inflicted on the world gave us the New Deal. We need the Second New Deal. Or better.
The Second New Deal is the term used by commentators at the time[1] and historians ever since to characterize the second stage of the New Deal programs of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In his address to Congress in January 1935, Roosevelt called for three major goals: improved use of national resources, security against old age, unemployment and illness, and slum clearance, as well as a national welfare program (the WPA) to replace state relief efforts.
It is usually dated 1935-36, and includes programs to redistribute wealth, income and power in favor of the poor, the old, farmers and labor unions. The most important programs included Social Security, the National Labor Relations Act ("Wagner Act" , the Banking Act, rural electrification, and breaking up utility holding companies.
Programs that were later ended by the Supreme Court or the Conservative Coalition included WPA, NYA, the Resettlement Administration, and programs for retail price control, farm rescues, coal stabilization, and taxes on the rich and the Undistributed profits tax.
Liberals in Congress passed the Bonus Bill of $1.5 billion to 3 million World War veterans over FDR's veto. Liberals strongly supported the new direction, and formed the New Deal Coalition of union members, big city machines, the white South, and ethnic minorities to support it;
and conservativestypified by the American Liberty League were strongly opposed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_New_Deal
We need this or something like it to rise up out of the OFA organization, which has not dissolved yet:
The New Deal Coalition was the alignment of interest groups and voting blocs that supported the New Deal and voted for Democratic presidential candidates from 1932 until the late 1960s. It made the Democratic Party the majority party during that period, losing only to Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956. Franklin D. Roosevelt forged a coalition that included the Democratic state party organizations, city machines, labor unions and blue collar workers, minorities (racial, ethnic and religious), farmers, white Southerners, people on relief, and intellectuals.[1]
The coalition fell apart around the bitter factionalism during the 1968 election, but it remains the model that party activists seek to replicate.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal_Coalition
We're dealing with the same opposing philosophies and interests now as then, except the media is in conservative hands. It makes organizing for our ideas through media very difficult. So we must go back to the grass roots to give the liberal majority in Congress. Our work is cut out for us.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Thanks Freshwest for reminding us that this is a battle against an ancient enemy. Actually, in many ways, it goes back to the founding of the Nation and beyond.
Remember, the Boston Tea Party was more a revolt against the monopoly of the East India Company that it was a revolt against the British Crown.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But then, we should know that Rust Never Sleeps.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)taking food out of the mouths of hungry babies and elderly people so they can have another dozen houses and cars and politicians.
I say we curse them all until they do right by this country. They are a disgrace.
In other words, we need Anonymous
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)It wouldn't matter if we could trust the political party that we all voted for. Nothing can pass unless they vote for it, and sign it.
moondust
(20,006 posts)Did they endorse and support Al Gore for President on the assumption that he would keep the Clinton/Gore surpluses rolling along which was projected to responsibly FIX THE DEBT over the course of a decade or so?
Fuck no.
Did they publicly denounce the profligate Bush tax cuts which destroyed the Clinton/Gore surpluses and possibly the last best chance to responsibly FIX THE DEBT during a period of relatively good economic health?
Fuck no.
Were they out in the streets marching and using their loud corporate voices to lobby Congress against the unwise and unnecessary invasion of Iraq which only made the hole deeper and harder to responsibly FIX THE DEBT in an economy made sick partly because of their own selfishness and malignant greed?
Fuck no.
These little men and little women seem to have no shame whatsoever.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Their bullshit of starting to get a little too obvious
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)2naSalit
(86,809 posts)That American exceptionalism thing that they believe in, it's their religion and thus gives them their self appointed divine right to demand that we bow down to them and their selfish BS.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)nice!
ReRe
(10,597 posts)K&R
Madness. I have never seen such madness in my life or read it in a book of fiction. It's diabolical. Evil incarnate. Total effing madness in the United States of America.
These guys made the debt, now they need to pay for it, not the American People. If those Bush tax cuts don't pass away on New Year's Eve, with no stings attached, I say it's time to reactivate the 99% protests, only get SERIOUS. about it this time. Not just a few hundred people here or there, but hundreds of thousands of people in the streets all over this country, and especially in Washington DC. And keep it up until our demands are met. And make some GD demands!!!!!!! Be specific, GDit.
Really, I look at that public pronouncement as a declaration of war by the 1% upon the 99%.
Something is happening here, and I think it's perfectly clear. It's an economic war on the People of the United States of America.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:16 AM - Edit history (2)
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET PENSIONS!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET SOCIAL SECURITY!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET A MODICUM OF HEALTH-CARE COVERAGE!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET LEGAL PROTECTIONS FOR OUR WORKPLACE HEALTH AND SAFETY!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET A GUARANTEED MINIMUM WAGE!
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET A CHANCE TO MOVE UP THE ECONOMIC LADDER!
BUT MOSTLY,
THEY HATE AMERICAN WORKERS BECAUSE WE GET ONE DIME TO OUR NAMES THAT THEY CANNOT REACH.
MAKE NO MISTAKE: THIS IS A WAR, A GLOBAL WAR TO IMPOVERISH AMERICANS, BRITONS, and ALL EUROPEANS TO THE CONDITIONS FOUND IN GUATEMALA, INDONESIA, VIETNAM, CHINA, PAKISTAN, INDIA.
2naSalit
(86,809 posts)"..they hate us for our freedom."
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)It this isn't conspiring to fuck us over royally then I don't know what is.
If anyone thinks the Koch brothers and their ilk and people like Rove haven't been conspiring to fuck us all over then they're fucking stupid.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)They kindly provided us a list of those to target with boycotts and other means.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)The chancellor may have to extend the squeeze on public spending until 2018 if the recent deterioration in growth prospects and tax receipts turns out to be permanent, a think tank has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20470864
London (CNN) -- Amid a din of whistles and klaxons, and bearing banners emblazoned with "No cuts" and "Austerity is failing," thousands of protesters marched past London's landmarks Saturday in a show of popular anger over government cutbacks.
"I don't like the government's policy, I don't think it works and I think the most vulnerable people suffer -- that's why I'm here," said one woman on the march.
The planned cuts to services and payments that help the sick and disabled are "shameful," she said.
Culminating in a mass rally in Hyde Park, the protest, staged by unions representing public sector workers and others, reflects a rising tide of discontent among many over the austerity measures brought in or proposed by the coalition government
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/20/world/europe/uk-anti-austerity-march/index.html
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/29/14152479-spain-portugal-hit-with-anti-austerity-protests?lite
?w=593
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)Or being takers, or whatever their bullshit excuse to blame the victims.
Did everyone screw up in every country?
They expect us to believe 99% of us are just lazy fuckups, and they are just so smart and hard working which is why they looted every country's treasury and stuck it in the Cayman Islands and why we must now all feel the pain of what we have done.
TygrBright
(20,771 posts)They messed up, sure, riding the wave of Ponzi Street (formerly Wall Street) scams and bankster shell games. Then the balloon went up. The Oligarchs there hollered about "austerity!"
The people of Iceland said "F*** that noise. Debt forgiveness, restructuring, maintain our standard of living for the middle class. Go screw yerselves, banksters & Oligarchs."
Did you hear about this?
No?
Gee, why not?
Remind me again about the "liberal media."
disgustedly,
Bright
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)lbrtbell
(2,389 posts)DO NOT buy a new computer, people! Get it fixed and install one of the many FREE Linux distributions on your PC.
Linux has many easy-to-use distros like Puppy, which can be run off a CD...you don't even have to install them! No worries about viruses, spyware, adware, as you have with Windoze.
I'm using a PC that is more than a decade old. And it FLIES on Puppy Linux, much faster than it ever did on Windows 98.
Micro$haft views Linux as a threat...because it is! Free yourselves from MS tyranny, and make the switch to Linux. You'll be glad you did.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)If we want to know who the water carriers of these corporations are, In many cases, we can just look in the mirror.
That is where the ideology rubber meets the reality highway.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)by raising the minimum tax rate on all income over $1 million a year from any and all sources to 95%
Anyone with me?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Cut my Social Security even just a little, and I won't be able to afford what little I purchase from you.
Multiply that times the number of seniors on Social Security and then reconsider your "solution."
Bad idea. TV and cable would probably go first. Then my car. Lots of my friends don't have cars. Oh, and Macy's. You are gone. You've got lots of competition.
A lot of these CEOs sell things to the elderly. And lots of consumers are elderly. As individuals we don't have much money. But as a group, we have a lot, and we sometimes help make decisions about how our children spend their money.
Cut our Medicare, and our children will have less to spend on your products.
You are sealing your own fate.
You have the money. You have to pay the taxes.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)1. Implement the Buffet rule
2. Raise or eliminate the cap on salary subject to FICA and Medicare taxes
3. Responsibly reduce current and future expenditures on military (kill unneeded weapons programs while retaining R&D, close bases except where absolutely necessary)
4. Pass legislation that would require all expenditures for military action of any kind to be paid for with new taxes
5. Eliminate ALL corporate welfare except where incentives can be justified (e.g. promoting green energy initiatives)
6. Tie ANY future assistance to business (e.g. bailouts) to immediate termination of all executives, board of directors, etc. and forbid these individuals in serving in those capacities for any other publicly traded company for not less than 20 years
7. Immediately terminate all pensions and health care programs for members of Congress, the Executive branch and the Judiciary. These are to be replaced with Medicare/Obamacare and Social Security
8. Close all loopholes and deductions except for primary residence mortgage interest up to a maximum purchase value of $250K and charitable contributions not to exceed 10% of annual income
9. Tax religious institutions on all non-charitable work (converting people and giving them spiritual counseling is not charity)
savannah43
(575 posts)companies? Why do US citizens have to die while doing this? No wars coupled with fair taxation of all citizens equals prosperity and more money than we know what to do with. Oh, yeah. Make lobbying illegal. That should fix quite a bit.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Iggo
(47,571 posts)Doremus
(7,261 posts)Jeesus on a stick, how the hell are we supposed to fight that many fucking billionaires? It really brings it home how badly screwed we all really are.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Berlin Expat
(950 posts)not the President. They'd find letters requesting their presence...
at Guantanamo Bay.
You know, for a little "friendly discussion".
These fools get the old blood pressure up, that's for sure. I'd perhaps hit back with a proposal to end all manner of corporate welfare, as well as jack their corporate and personal income tax rates to 90%, and some supplementary laws forbidding them from leaving the country, shutting down, or laying off/firing any workers whatsoever under the threat of nationalization. And if they wanna go screaming, "Oh, you eeeevvvillll commie!", well, my response would be, "Buddy, you ain't see nothin' yet."
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)n/t
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)of hanging those bastards. After that, we can have a working democracy.
CRH
(1,553 posts)Check your Christmas shopping list,
And check it twice,
Check the list above,
See who's been naughty or nice,
Make sure Santa doesn't bring their product around.
Your best statement is in boycotting all their products, pinch them in the ass, where their wallet usually sits. Let what they are promoting today be a reflection of their future corporate bottom line.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)on the "concerned bigwigs" list meet that criteria.
CRH
(1,553 posts)midnight
(26,624 posts)After all our congress made out nicely while the rest of the country lost their homes, savings, and jobs....
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)almost 17k shares and over 42k likes.... I'm glad folks are showing interest
The Wizard
(12,549 posts)Shoot them all.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)profit before people. Not surprised, outraged or anything. Just confirms my corporate-fascist suspicions. By getting all the cuts they want in medicare, medicaid and social security they will gain complete control of people's lives. It's a power and profit thing with the greed merchants.
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)A nice big boycott list for those who wish to do so. I can't believe that these people can be so greedy. Then again...
Raster
(20,998 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Initech
(100,105 posts)Really these fucking CEOs are no better than common criminals. They just get away with it and on a grand scale. This practice of just flat out grifting should be completely illegal yet in our society not only is it common practice our stupid bullshit media encourages it.
pitchforx
(49 posts)Turns out hey really like "free stuff" too. meanwhile workers and consumers have built the greatest infrastructure and society in the world for them to feed on
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)savannah43
(575 posts)It is self-supporting. If the money BushCo took from the SS fund to cover tax breaks for the wealthy was paid back, there would be not a single reason to ever mention SS again with respect to its funding. Everyone should research the facts and then keep repeating them until the MSM discusses it honestly every single day. This SS/deficit connection is one of the biggest lies in history. It is a travesty.
With respect to Medicare, everyone working or collecting it pays into the fund for it. Medicare pays 80% of "approved expenses", and the recipient of those services is responsible for the other 20%. The recipient can pay cash or purchase private insurance to cover most of the 20%. That's Medicare Part C. Part D is a private insurance purchased by the recipient that covers "approved" medications. You can also just pay cash for medications. The blood-sucking noise heard if one pays attention is the health care industry, including health care insurance, and Big Pharma literally sucking the life out of people. How is it that a patient can be charged $10,000.00 per day to simply lay in a hospital bed while being observed? No treatment, just observation. All those politicians who make an issue out of the funding of SS and Medicare are either ignorant or liars. Enough! The unmitigated greed of Wall Street and the above-mentioned corporate gangsters, lobbyists, and purchased politicians should not be tolerated another minute. Demand the truth be told and only the truth. Pass it on.
Metro135
(359 posts)The only thing uglier than Blankfein's face is his dry rot soul.
My company, McGraw-Hill Education, was sold to Apollo Global Management, a Bain Capital-type "business" today. The assure us there won't be any layoffs. Uh huh.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)It does sound like your line of work, on the surface is tough to outsource if you aren't in some administrative function like Finance or other function that can be outsourced. If you are on the product development end or distribution, you may be in better shape. Still, do the evaluations that I mentioned above, believe me, if you do a thorough job, you will sleep better at night.
Welcome to DU. This is a good site with lots of good people.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)I have been contemplating consolidating to another company, I will go ahead and get that done. I will check the list of hotels that Starwood owns and skip booking with any of them. Marriott has been off my list for some time, due to it's robust backing of Romney.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Hopefully it wont get so bad that you will have to start staying in youth hostels?
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)young people for anything other than business will shock my system. I respect young people, they have enormous talent. It is just that I have hit the calm stretch of my existence, young people are like active volcanoes.
mojowork_n
(2,354 posts)..."and the horses you rode in on."
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)ChaoticTrilby
(211 posts)Stick with T-Mobile, if you can. An interesting little story: someone close to me has worked for both T-Mobile and AT&T in rough succession when we moved from place to place. One raised her pay often, gave good benefits, and offered bonuses and gifts (including free phones!) The other raised her insurance rates every time she got a raise in pay; gave cheap, low, health benefits; and their idea of a "prize/incentive" for her superb performance was to give her either an extra hundred bucks or the "opportunity" to attend "conventions" and meet with the higher-ups...and, often, she would have had to pay to do so. Impossible standards and weak rewards. Peachy, huh? I'll let you decide which was which based on those lists up there.
Let's just say that I practically knew AT&T's CEO would be on these lists.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)OK, there's still a 12-year-old in me that can't help it.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)sleazy, slimy, greed head motherfuckers.
if this word get banned here in this context, the context of these particular sorry motherfucking sons of bitches, then that would be sad.
these are people who want to raise taxes on the middle class and working poor by eliminating tax credits, while lowering their own already treasonous low rates (both the highest earned income, and the grotesquely low capital gains tax.)
fuck them and the upper/ruling class they rise from, and their tea party useful idiots too (also motherfuckers.)
Trillo
(9,154 posts)"Who runs the world"
http://planetsave.com/2011/08/28/who-runs-the-world-network-analysis-reveals-super-entity-of-global-corporate-control/
Scroll down and the top 50 companies are listed.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)the line between government and big business is pretty blurred. If they are collaborators in the problem, it's doubtful the government will provide much of a solution.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)it is time for US to "take them on"
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)Hopefully someone will inform him what this is really about and he'll remove his support for this class rape.
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)I just heard it on Eliot Spitzer's show.
If that's the case, why'd we bother to vote 3 weeks ago? Every stinkin' working schmuck in America just got thrown under the bus by POTUS.
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)They are shameless. I haven't been so angry about something in quite some time.
Do elections matter? We will find out.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)it is absolutely incredible and remarkable that I can say that as the norm.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)It's class war.
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)Google ...Blackstone Capital, Carlysle Corporation.... Council on Foreign Relations, Federal Reserve... same names over and over.....
Pakid
(478 posts)I wonder just how many of them we can put the hurts to by refusing to do any business with them And my 2 cents worth just what in the hell do these greedy SOB want, us to stave to death so they can have more money. Now I am not a violent person but I have to wonder just how much do we take before we do in fact say ENOUGH!!!! and tar and feather these pile of garbage and run them out of town on a rail