So, will the Supreme Court now intervene and unanimously restore Joe Biden to the Alabama ballot?

[bigtree]

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Alabama secretary of state says Democratic convention too late to get Biden on ballot this fall

Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.

The Republican National Convention came after the same deadline in 2020, but the Legislature passed a bill to allow ballot access. President Joe Biden’s campaign released a statement Tuesday night in response to Allen’s letter, saying the deadline would not keep the president off the ballot.

“Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states,” the campaign said. “State officials have the ability to grant provisional ballot access certification prior to the conclusion of presidential nominating conventions. In 2020 alone, states like Alabama, Illinois, Montana, and Washington all allowed provisional certification for Democratic and Republican nominees.”

Four years ago, when Republicans held their convention Aug. 24-27, the Legislature passed a bill to make a one-time change in the deadlines and accommodate the GOP.

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html

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[bucolic_frolic]

1. Indeed. Waiting. Tapping my foot. /nt

[getagrip_already]

2. Beue did a nice video on this, maybe its better if he isnt on the AL ballot

Basic premise is that there is ZERO chance biden would win AL.

But being kept off the ballot would energize dems to show up and vote in local elections, and since the top of the ticket doesn't matter anyway, magats will likely stay home.

So the combo of hot dems and sleepy magats could work in our favor for downballot races.

[CrispyQ]

16. ...maybe its better if he isnt on the AL ballot...

Are you kidding me?

It will have exactly the opposite affect of energizing dems. It will affect down ballot races AND contributions, particularly in OH & AL, AND the final popularity count.

Speaking for myself, I'm so GD pissed off about this I could fucking scream..

Colorado challenged Trump's eligibility to be on the ballot but we can't do the basics to make sure our candidate is on the ballot? How do we convince people Biden is more competent when the campaign didn't even get him on the ballot? Someone will say these states aren't important but that's not true. Every state is important.

It's embarrassing. We look incompetent. I expected a lot more from the Democratic Party than to fuck up something so simple as to miss the deadline to get your damned candidate on the ballot. WTF?

[getagrip_already]

17. Its not incompetance, its rat f#$%ing by gop state houses...

They set the deadlines knowing when the conventions will be.

If the gop convention falls after, they exempt it. If the dem falls after, they don't.

It's by their design, not our incompetence. Their dates are arbitrary.

[CrispyQ]

19. Read post #12. -nt

[InstantGratification]

21. Sorry but that's wrong

I won't speak for Alabama, but OH sets the deadline to be on the ballot for 90 days before the general election. That is not an arbitrary date that was created for this election. It has been that way in OH since 2009. In the past, it was taken for granted that a provisional certification would be granted and that has always happened before this election, for both parties. I don't want to count on that this time, I have no doubt the GOP will rat fuck us on this one. They are doing this as revenge for the legal challenges to keep Trump off of CO's ballot.

It is impossible to move the entire convention at this late date, the logistical challenges are just too steep. Instead, after the last primary is finished, quietly get all the delegates together, hold a vote and send the certification to the states. Then hold the convention with all the speeches and rah rah rah cheering on the scheduled date. Make it a point to tell the country how provisional certifications have been used without issue by BOTH parties in the past and especially point it out if they were allowed for the GOP in this election but denied to democrats. Call them out for the rat fuckers they are, make them OWN it.

[Oopsie Daisy]

25. Stop it. No, Democrats do NOT "look incompetent." Seriously. Stop.

>> It's embarrassing. We look incompetent. I expected a lot more from the Democratic Party than to fuck up something so simple as to miss the deadline to get your damned candidate on the ballot. WTF?
I do not understand the need or desire for anyone to gleefully parade around with these types of insults. Shitting on the party without cause makes no sense to me at all. Why do this?

[CrispyQ]

27. Because it's my goddamned opinion & this is a discussion board.

I could go out & tell all my family & friends I think the dems look incompetent & foolish but instead I come here to vent so fucking deal with it.

[Oopsie Daisy]

31. LOL 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[Lovie777]

3. Well hell..............................

Did Pres Biden try to overthrow the government with a coup where people violently stormed the Capitol Building, where
people were killed, injured, shitted in the Capitol Building, take computer(s), fought with the Capitol Police and searched for VP Pence and Speaker Pelosi with the intent to kill them?

[rampartc]

10. biden said a few mean things about dear leader

a hanging (a nitrogen?) offense in alabama.

war eagle.

[tritsofme]

4. How exactly do you suppose they would be able to intervene at this stage?

[Takket]

5. It will never get to SCOTUS. the DNC will just say he is the nominee.

[rampartc]

9. the state party could just say that,

or hold a vote at a party meeting.

[Autumn]

6. August is four months away. Can't the Democratic party change the date? That seems like a

no brainer instead of waiting for the sc to fuck the Dems over.

[Johonny]

13. No, the convention takes a lot of organization

And states have always simply passed measures to put GOP and Dems on ballots that have these type of deadlines. This has never been a thing before now.

[Autumn]

14. Nothing has ever been a thing before. Until now. Let the sc decide,

plenty of young voters or the Left that can always be blamed.

[rampartc]

7. there is zero chance the legislature will pass an extension.

but the state party could declare biden the nominee of their state democrats,

or screw 'em, make the supreme court put up; or shut up. we're not getting those electoral votes anyway. lets make 'em pay.

[LeftInTX]

11. It would likely need to come from the DNC and not the state party.

[LeftInTX]

12. Not to detract from the Supreme Court, but I saw this article.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/04/joe-bidens-potential-exclusion-from-ohios-ballot-would-be-first-in-modern-presidential-history.html


Ohio’s law, which requires presidential candidates to be certified by their party’s national convention at least 90 days before a general election, dates back to 2009, according to LaRose spokesman Ben Kindel.

In 2012 and 2020, both the Republican and Democratic national conventions were held after that deadline. However, in each of those years, state lawmakers passed laws temporarily moving the deadline until after the party conventions.

The National Association of Secretaries of State, a national, nonpartisan group, issued resolutions in 2013, 2018 and 2023 encouraging Republicans and Democrats to set their national convention dates earlier so as not to conflict with states’ administrative deadlines for candidates.

“(The) late timing of nominating conventions can hinder the ability of election officials to meet administrative deadlines set by state statute and federal law, leaving ballot certification and voting processes susceptible to delays,” the NASS resolution stated.


Also this: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/09/democrats-exploring-options-for-joe-biden-to-make-ohio-ballot/73261160007/

[CrispyQ]

18. We dropped the ball & it's embarrassing.

I'm sorry to read so many excuses for the dem party when if the repubs had done this we'd be chortling how incompetent they are, but today, when it's us, there are gads of comments about how this isn't a big deal.

[jalan48]

20. If something as important as this was missed, what else is being missed?

In the private sector people get fired for these kinds of fuck-ups.

[malaise]

15. They have no choice

Let’s see

[PortTack]

22. The usual let's stick it to the Dems....President Biden will be on the ballot. They know they can't get away with that

And NO it’s not the fault of the DNC…stop it!

[OnlinePoker]

23. As an outsider (Canadian) looking in, U.S. politics is a shitshow

Every state making up rules as they go along to try and screw the other guy.

[JohnSJ]

24. Just certify him before the Convention through a zoom call, and then proceed with the convention

[RandySF]

28. The Uncommitted delegates will go ballistic

Because, you know, it’s a close race.

[JohnSJ]

29. Excuse my french, but f**k em. I am not even sure those uncommitted delegates will vote for President BIden

anyway. Look what the likes of Cornell West did in 2016. He wasn't even a Democrat and given a seat at the rule table committee, and after the Convention was over immediately said he would be voting for Jill Stein. I suspect a number of those uncommitted delegates will do the same thing.

[LeftInTX]

32. That's what I figured.

"We want in-person on Tee-Vee, so the entire world will hear us!!!"

[RandySF]

26. It won't unanimous if they do.

[PortTack]

30. The AL sos trying to be big man on campus....you're gonna look like the fool you are when you find out

President Biden WILL be on the ticket!'

[onenote]

33. No, the Supreme Court will not "intervene" because the DNC will not sue to stop states from setting deadlines

for when someone can be included on a ballot.

The Supreme Court doesn't just "intervene" -- they act on cases that work their way up to the Court -- like the Colorado case did.