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lees1975

(3,879 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 12:42 PM Apr 10

Killing their own cause.

https://www.rawstory.com/pro-palestinian-activists/

Keep in mind, folks. Trump issued an executive order banning people from Muslim countries from entering the US, and talked to his military leadership about shooting protesters.

If you're really interested in Gaza, and not just your own political standing in this country, then there's some figuring out you need to do about how to do this. What you're doing won't help Gaza and if you "punish" Democrats who aren't right there with you by helping Trump get elected, Gaza loses.

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The Unmitigated Gall

(3,833 posts)
2. He's openly advocated for wiping out
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 01:02 PM
Apr 10

Gazan Palestinians entirely. His slenderman-in-law has remarked on what nice beach resorts could be built in Gaza once it’s cleared.

This will be the reward for single-issue purity voters.

Oh, and he’ll try to have you shot when you protest these policies.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
3. It seems so simplistic that Trump will not make any issue you care about better.
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 01:14 PM
Apr 10

Spread this far & wide, especially to young & new voters.

Cha

(297,679 posts)
6. In fact TSF & magats want to Do Away with
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:12 PM
Apr 10

Our Social Security.. I'd say that's WORSE And No Exaggerating.

usonian

(9,880 posts)
4. I'm reminding everyone what we got when people stayed home because Hillary wasn't PERFECT.
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 02:00 PM
Apr 10

Stay at home gets you this, a bad rerun of 2016.
A message to young people, especially,.
It's like a date, people. No one is perfect, but the wrong choice will land you in the hospital or the bottom of a river.


Here is the future the GOP wants for you, and has sought for years to deliver.
You must choose wisely.

• Government dictates what you read, your religion and your private life. Government monitors and controls women.

• Americans pitted against each other along lines of race, color, religion, gender, sexuality, and income. Vilification of blacks, Jews, Muslims, lgbtq+ , homeless, and women of strength, with increasing violence, even murder against them.

• Gaza waterfront razed to make hotels. (per Jared Kushner)

• Devastating climate change.

• A deadly all-out war on the rights of women.

• More welfare for the rich.

• Private health care companies deny needed treatments to save money. (Death panels are here!)

• The wealthy pay even less in taxes.

• Every civil right is eroded by clown judges living in the 18th century rewriting the constitution.

• Worker's rights and benefits reduced in order to create greater profits for businesses.

• Safety nets removed, so that homeless, and jobless people are left to die on the streets.

• More, more, more of culture war.

• GUNS, everywhere, with no limitations or requirements. Kids get them freely.

• Minorities and women blamed for every imaginable blip.

• Support of authoritarian regimes across the globe, who eagerly imprison, "re-educate", murder and commit atrocities on others.

• Lies, hate speech and threats are welcomed on "social media" and given support by government officials.

• Medical care and prescription drug costs skyrocket. (and more ... )


This is not fear-mongering. It's reading from history and quoted statements.

"Staying at home" because Hillary Clinton wasn't "perfect" gave us a train wreck hate-mongering profiteer.
Learn from history.

We are now in a time when much of what's posted and published is generated by A.I. and bots.
Looters with computers know which ONE of your buttons to push that will get you to do their bidding.

It's like a date, people. No one is perfect, but the wrong choice will land you in the hospital or the bottom of a river.

• There are two alternatives.
• Ask which you want.
• You can't ride the fence, because it's covered with barbed wire.





lees1975

(3,879 posts)
5. The problem with the protesters is that they want it all, their way, done now, exactly to their specifications.
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 02:58 PM
Apr 10

Last edited Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

They're not paying attention to reality.

1. Israel is not going away and their right to exist has been politically established and recognized internationally. Agree or disagree, it's not realistic to change that and if it is morally wrong to use violence against the Palestinians, it is morally wrong to use it against Israel.
2. The attack on Israel on October 7 was not justifiable under any circumstance. Those who are protesting on behalf of Gaza must recognize this as a fact that has led to where we are now.
3. It's time for a cease fire. That permits taking stock of the situation and deciding what needs to be done. Surely none of those protesters are supporters of Hamas' continued existence in Gaza.
4. Aid to Israel is complicated and not just a matter of congress taking a vote or the President unilaterally deciding not to send the check. It's tied to the military alliance and appropriations, approved in advance, can't be changed with unilateral action or a single vote.
5. The Democratic Party and President Joe Biden are not only essential to a solution in Gaza, even though it may not be the kick in the teeth to Israel that you want, they are essential to your continued existence as a political constituency and community and to your voice in American affairs. Punishing Biden by not voting for him, or by voting for Trump will be the end of your cause, everything you stand for, and you, because you will be legislated out of existence.

usonian

(9,880 posts)
12. There was a movie with Kevin Spacey. Swimming with Sharks.
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 08:12 PM
Apr 10
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_with_Sharks

Cold-blooded bottom line. "What do you want?"

And that's binary.

No sitting on the barbed wire fence.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
7. But Rashida Tlaib is advising her constituents to not vote for Biden.
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:14 PM
Apr 10

I wonder if she will face competition in the primary election.

PortTack

(32,794 posts)
8. This is so wrong. She needs to take off her childish rose colored glasses. What does she think will happen
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:26 PM
Apr 10

If tsf is elected…seriously!

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
10. But none of it matters. The cult agrees with whatever
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:38 PM
Apr 10

The cult simply agrees to whatever position the Republican cult leaders say. They never question any of it.

usonian

(9,880 posts)
14. Maybe someone needs to send the abstainers a thank you note.
Thu Apr 11, 2024, 01:17 AM
Apr 11

From Donald and maybe also his pal, Netanyahu.

Now that everything is fake.

No repeat of 2016.

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