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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow! Fetterman doesn't hold back *
* with his assessment and expressing his opinion on this matter.
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lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,737 posts)* for fundraising purposes or to intentionally undermine the Biden agenda.
Tickle
(2,584 posts)I really like him
sop
(10,274 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,737 posts)DJ Synikus Makisimus
(217 posts)Bashing the Democrats' centrist progressives and center-left DSA seems to be his new schtick. Not voting for credits redeemable by Israel at approved U.S. weapons manufacturers, owned by U.S. oligarchs, isn't voting against the people of Israel. Israel is a wealthy industrialized nation with a sophisticated weapons manufacturing sector ("defense" industry) of its own. Its government is currently despicable. The folks calling for a no vote are worried about Israel causing more CIVILIAN casualties, which passed 32,000 in Gaza today according to several sources.
Just to be clear, I don't take sides in blood feuds, especially not those that have been ongoing for 2000-3000 years. There are no political actors in this war that I'd wish to be associated with - on either side. The leadership elite of both political entities see hostility toward the other as a major key to their keeping power. They sound like MAGA GOPs magnified exponentially. I see no resolution, none of the people with power interested in peace, and only more bloodshed now and in the future. Therefore there's no one to support. People suffer when their leaders make them war. I DO, however, support food deliveries and reconstruction, which the Biden Administration got a boost in today, as the World Food Organization is going to return to Gaza. Most (all?) NGOs (including the WFO) stopped performing in this function when Israel hit the World Central Kitchen (Chef José Andrés' group) convoy, if you recall.
One article about the WFO returning to Gaza is at:
https://www.voanews.com/a/7577943.html
lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)Politician who can't be bought by power and money.
Beastly Boy
(9,529 posts)An oxymoron?
paleotn
(17,994 posts)Cha
(297,911 posts)Cha
(297,911 posts)mcar
(42,426 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(2,737 posts)That one had me howling! 🤣😂
mcar
(42,426 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)I support Israel.
Think. Again.
(8,630 posts)...either side killing or maiming or disrupting the peaceful lives of innocent civilians.
Irish_Dem
(47,648 posts)Think. Again.
(8,630 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)I agree with the premise that Hamas fighters should be killed on sight. I just don't think it's okay to bomb your way through thousands of innocent Palestinians to get there. Starvation and indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets are war crimes and people who direct these policies should be prosecuted.
paleotn
(17,994 posts)The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on........
Silent3
(15,423 posts)Israel should do better than, "At least we're not as evil as Hamas, and besides, they started it!"
JI7
(89,282 posts)LexVegas
(6,121 posts)Cha
(297,911 posts)TY & Sen Fetterman!
question everything
(47,556 posts)A giant - literally and figuratively - who stands by his convictions.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)But paired with military aid desperately needed in Ukraine, the only choice is to pass it.
BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)He sums that up nicely there, I think.
returnee
(51 posts)There is no lunatic fringe of the Democratic Party as far as I can see. Full-fledged Socialists and people opposed to war crimes in Gaza are not lunatic fringe. This is highly concerning talk. (Disclosure: I contributed to his campaign. He is showing somewhat different colors now.)
BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. I think alleged progressives who shout Genocide Joe are lunatic fringe.
DFW
(54,473 posts)But I agree completely.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,737 posts)* and holding up a mirror and calling-out certain behaviors with blunt and honest truth.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,401 posts)In light of the recent strike against aid workers and the ever-worsening humanitarian crisis, we believe it is unjustifiable to approve these weapons transfers, the letter said. It was signed by Pelosi and 36 other Democrats including Representatives Barbara Lee, Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Fridays letter also calls on the US to withhold future arms transfers pending a US investigation into the airstrike on the World Central Kitchen humanitarian workers or if Israel fails to sufficiently mitigate harm to innocent civilians in Gaza. A spokesperson for Pelosi later said the congresswoman was encouraged at early steps Bidens administration had taken to investigate the strike on the WCK staffers and respects his judgment on how to proceed.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/05/biden-israel-gaza-aid
Pelosi may have decided that aid has improved enough, or the Iran attack is enough, to reverse her position, but it's hardly "lunatic" to say Israel has not yet done enough.